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PrintableNep2nes said: U don't know that. That election was clouded by rumor and hearsay and media speculation. U can't prove it was Gore. It's never been verified. On the other hand, it was well-known and proven that Hussein is in power but no1 in his country wants him 2 b.
It's chilling 2 think that man can just cut out people's tongues and shoot them dead away if ever they question his actions. U'll never c that happen here which is y I can't fathom how u drew the conclusion that our government and his r somehow tyrannical. theC Sorry sweetie but GORE WON THE POPULAR VOTE(the public vote)!That's public record.He lost on electorial votes.I know you already know this so i won't go any further. | |
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Nep2nes said: It's chilling 2 think that man can just cut out people's tongues and shoot them dead away if ever they question his actions. U'll never c that happen here which is y I can't fathom how u drew the conclusion that our government and his r somehow tyrannical. no doubt, its quite chilling. and its a shame for the iraq. however, it does not justfify the plan to drop bombs ad to invade the country. nep, there's many terrible dictators on this planet. and as I have said before, many of those have been established by the US. another note on the iraq: the people around saddam suffer from his terrors. but the majority of the people only suffer from the sanctions. saddam still is doing good... failed attempt! "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany"  | |
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Nep2nes said: Y is abrazo defending Nazis?
he never at any point did that. he just doesnt support the imperialistic terrors of the US. isnt that strange: some of you would like to move us critics in the nazi corner. others call us socialists. now whats up with that??? "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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bonojr said: (about The Max) I like this guy, good response to the historic revisionists on the Euro socialist elite side.
I knew you would like this meaningless attempt of an insult, since you dont have anything better to offer yourself. for some reason none of you guys have actually something to hold against my and abrazo's points. we are not bathing in theories here, we have simply expressed our doubts and fears and brought up some facts. thats called freedom of speech. historic revisionists on the Euro socialist elite side?? wow. I didnt think you would know as many words as that. too bad they dont represent what I am. I call myself a social democrat, but for you of a country which condemns anything social, its probably the same. nice try to move us in some obscure corner. back in the mccarthy era they did that with every critic as well --- only back then they called them communists. so as you see terms change... but the narrowminded attitude remains the same. sad, sad... "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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Nep2nes said: What a sad example 4 males 2 follow. But I guess the fact that a period of good economic growth coincided with his being President at the time means we should 4give his compulsive lying? 
[This message was edited Wed Aug 14 12:09:58 PDT 2002 by Nep2nes] well... the man you defend so much, george w bush, recently has announced that no actions are planned so far against the iraq. we all know that this was a flat out lie. who do you consider more dangerous: a man who lies about his dick or about starting a world crisis with millions of victoms? the choice is yours, nep... btw: my compliment! its a pleasure debating with you lately since you have stopped to insult!  "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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Nep2nes said: soulpower said: the arab world doesnt hate for the cause of hate. they have been one of the most peaceful religions ever. . I can't BELIEVE u c Bin Laden as the evryday Average Joe of Islam. He does NOT speak 4 most Muslims!!! He is like the leader of Heaven's Gate (the Christian cult)---only Muslim. Calling 4 his own people 2 go against the Quran by committing suicide. Ur trying 2 b open minded, but in the process u r saying stupid things that most Muslims would resent u saying. I'm not going 2 kiss ANYone's ass...no matter what religion. If ur wrong, ur fucking wrong and that's all there is 2 it. Bin Laden is a rich guy (off of oil 2)...but if u look at the little boys who grow up in Al Qaida training camps (because their parents sent them there knowing they'd get fed, altho' not much) u would think differently. These boys r pumped out like on an assembly line. Their whole lives consist of this: 1) Memorize the Quran 2) become a trained terrorist 3) kill some Americans, take a stand...etc. U think a mother WANTS that life 4 her son? Do u really think terrorism is about politics? It's about poverty and how Bin Laden exploits poor, desperate families in his region. nep, you must have misread or misunderstood one of my previous posts. I NEVER looked at bin laden as an average muslim... where did you get that from? he is a mental nutcase. I only said that I understand where his anger is coming from. I do not support his actions. in fact, for the first time I agree with everything you said in this post... "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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Nep2nes said: Do u really think terrorism is about politics? It's about poverty and how Bin Laden exploits poor, desperate families in his region.
I overread that quote before. may answer: yes, terrorism is about politics. for example: palestineans consider themselves freedom fighters. do you think only somebody with tanks, missles and stripes on the uniform is a war politician and people who fight with carpet cutters are terrorists? its not their wepon of choice, its all they have. of course bin laden is exploiting families, he's doing it wrong. but his cause is to kick the US forces out of his native country. thats damn political!! "Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" | |
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soulpower said: Nep2nes said: Y is abrazo defending Nazis?
he never at any point did that. he just doesnt support the imperialistic terrors of the US. isnt that strange: some of you would like to move us critics in the nazi corner. others call us socialists. now whats up with that??? better question: why am i being attacked for simply stating my opinion? Watch out with nep soulpower, before you know it she takes your nationality to be the clear explanation why you are 'defending' me for the accusation against me of "defending Nazi's". And fyi nep2nes: I am not defending terrorists. I think the USA has the fullest right to go after them. But I do not support the emthods by which it tries do that. because an army can not effectively elimanite terrorist cells operating "undecover" in a multinational form. This kind of war needs to be fought out mainly at the level of secret policy agancies and special forces troops, trained to deal with terrorists. Bombing innocent poor people, who are already starving because of atrocious sanctions is NOT going to do it. It will in fact only increase the breeding ground of terrorism, because more and more people will be hating your country for its ruthless bombings. That is the context in which I defend human rights of every man on this planet, including you. If you can't see that, then I dont know what the hell all y'all are prince fans for. You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security. | |
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