adorable2 said:

But he HAS gone downhill. I still love his music (I'm listening to "I Wanna Be Your Lover" as we speak). I've given everything he's put out since Batman a fair chance and it never shows the integrity that he had in the 80s.

You've completely concocted that assumption yourself. Why? Seek therapy and ask.


Who's talking about $uccess? It just so happens that his fame and fortune peaked when he most deserved it. He still got a huge contract in the 90s, but he turned out pure garbage ("Pop Daddy, Daddy Pop" )

We're talking about actual innovation, creativity, ingenuity, resilience, etc. clearly represented in albums like Prince, Dirty Mind, 1999, etc. NOT in Gold Experience, Emancipation, Rave, ect.

dml said:

So, you think he really prefers crap like "Pussy Control," "Sex in the Summer," "So Far, So Pleased" to "Little Red Corvette," "When Doves Cry," "Adore, "Alphabet St.??

People have been saying this about Prince for the past 10 years and he's still here.

Whatever you think is irrelevant to the course of Prince's career. His place in music history is assured.

Just because you don't like or relate to something does not make it inferior.

Just because music is not hyped or a commercial sucess does not make it a failure.

Prince is now an independent artist who is expressing himself freely.

Either connect with that or move on, its that simple.

That's your opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it. But in my opinion there isn't one 90s Prince album that comes close to TRC musically. The Truth, although totally different, is worthy of merit and comes close. I'm not concerned about his popularity.

Every recording artist wants their music to sell, although a small percentage of them will not pander artistically to sell. Thematically and lyrically for Prince it took balls to release an album like TRC. If you don't understand what I mean, well, maybe you will years from now in retrospect. But that's another thread.

Some people harp on whether or not he's innovative, but that's counterproductive and rather silly. NO ONE is innovative for every single release of their recording career when they produce as much music as Prince. It's humanly impossible. There's also this ethos that only innovative music is good, which is total crap. There is black, there is white, and there are a lot of brilliant colors in between.

Prince is competing with the legacy he created. In my opinion it's a legacy that, among anyone outside of jazz, and since Hendrix's death, only he is capable of reclaiming.

What amazes me is that when prince was commercially successful and had Millions of fans, I would ask those fans about certain songs that they loved, and they had no clue as to what the songs were saying, for example. Little red corvette, most thought it was about a automobile. Always in my hair, they thought it was about someone that got on his nerve, If I was your girlfriend, they thought he was saying that he was gay. Why? probaly because they don't listen, they jump on the wagon and ride until the driver says get off.(Prince was not the driver) Well the driver said get off and now prince is supposed to nolonger be any good. That is BS. I don't think he has changed that much, I love every album he has made. some are better than others, but in general they all are good... There is no one in the industry today that can stand on the same stage with Prince, His worst record is better than their best. Now you don't have to take my word for it, Ask Jimmy Jam, Najee, George Clinton, Quincy Jones, Winton Marceles, People who are at the top of their field will all tell you How great Prince is, and they should know becausethey are artist and they compare there work to prince and no one else. Also Emancipation is the record that I would have with me if I was on a Deserted Island with nothing but a lifetime supply of batteries and a CD player. Thank you very much.

Either connect with that or move on, its that simple.

dml said:

So, you think he really prefers crap like "Pussy Control," "Sex in the Summer," "So Far, So Pleased" to "Little Red Corvette," "When Doves Cry," "Adore, "Alphabet St.??

But Supernova, what exactly do you mean

with this:

please elaborate.

It bores me to hear the same comment being raised about 15 years after I first heard it.

BoySimon said:

Who made this fag the authority on what it takes for PRince to meet anyone's requirements? Motherfuckers like this make me want to kick ass again.

I'm in the minority when I say this, but that's ok; I think Lovesexy is the most overrated Prince album among all his diehard fans.

I'm in the minority when I say this, but that's ok; I think [color=red:aa37428c72:11b3fc424a]Lovesexy is the most overrated Prince album among all his diehard fans.

i'm with boysimon and extreme on this. the last great album prince put out was "lovesexy". go ahead, attack me for it. but remember: i'm not attacking anyone for liking prince, i'm stating my own opinions about his music and how it no longer seems as relevant, wonderful, dynamic and inspired as his 80s work.

Oh, yes, you said that!!!

boob, no shit sandwiches. silly thing.

"uh, what are you still doing at the org if you don't like prince?" silly question, which often gets asked when somebody dares to say they don't listen to TRC 3 times before breakfast. i like discussing prince is all. i still like prince, i listen to him more than any other artist.


I don't, but STILL I think he's definitely one of the most brilliant musician in the world.


lots of his 90s work does not speak to me, there has been such a drastic drop in quality it's heartbreaking. as eric leeds once said, prince started to sound very derivative in the 90s, chasing rap, hip hop, r&b, etc. it's a crying shame.

When did he say that??? How can that statement be sooo right?

i care enough about the man's music to wade through and pick out the occasional goodie- "space", "lettitgo", "goodbye", "mad sex", "wasted kisses", "joint 2 joint", "white mansion", "somebody's somebody", and quite a few others. but i find that listening to prince's 90s work i am often bracing myself for the dreadful bits. i sit there cringing at the clumsy lyrics, the horrible arrangements, the bad rapping, the lines that don't scan well.. "wedding feast" anyone? how about that song on "the truth" where he talks about the girl sending him a used condom in the mail. "baby, that was wrong". what a vile and idiotic image.

Again, I don't, because I just can't STAND listening to his voice saying stupid things on any awfully arranged song.

just seems that i can listen to "dirty mind" to "lovesexy" inclusive and the man doesn't put a foot wrong. it all fits, i understand the musical language he was talking then and it still blows me away. the whole darn mess of his 80s work doesn't sound much like any other music ever made to me, oh of course there are reference points and influences, but when i listen to peaktime prince i sit in wonder and say "what *is* this stuff? where did it come from?"

I keep asking myself that same question!!!?

bye then.

Supernova said:

Heehee, you forgot The Black Album