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PrintableJesseDezz said: Graycap23 said: Jessie can throw down but his material is very LIMITED.
I think he showed a whole new scope of his talents with "Bare My Naked Soul". It contained material that is more "true", if you will, of where his heart really lies. He got away from the whole "Minneapolis Sound" label and established his own sound. I don't think the material on that album was limited at all - it hinted at a lot of stylistic possibilities for JJ. However, he's taken over ten years to follow up on them... Don't you get tired of people talking about Jesse is not this and Jesse is not that  I don't know what it is about folk and this Jesse is good but....  Prince is a Guitar God, but so is Jesse. as far as I am concerned when Jesse was doing the Minneapolis style thing he still didn't sound like Prince or dress like Prince the Purple King. No One can sound like Prince and IMO anyone that is a fan, Prince- freak, Prince-bot or whatever should be able to tell the differences. There were similarities of course, (he couldn't help it at the time) But if you listen to songs, like I'm Just Wanting You, Vibe and the whole Bare My Naked Soul cd, you can see that Jesse has range. Also IMO the song Vibe could be played today as a new track.  Thank you. Jesse Rocks!     ...it's groovy baby | |
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Sorry, to be frank, what have we heard from Jesse Johnson in the last 15 years????
Also, when i read the news about 'The Truth', a group formed by former Prince protegees, paying hommage to 'the Minneapolis sound', i think: you probably werent able to grab peoples attention with your own music, so you fall back to the music that gave you a short moment of glory. Face it, what has someone like Jesse done when he left the Prince camp?, what about Paul Peterson? What about Jellybean Johnson? They have surved the stream for a few years, but they arent capable of delivering interesting music by themselves.. face it, those guys were mediocre musicians lucky to benefit for a while from a genious called Prince, without him they would have stayed anonymous. | |
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Riverpoet31 said: face it, those guys were mediocre musicians
 I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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Reading back a bit, but everyone who thinks John McCaughlin is a good guitarist, probably also thinks Steve Vai or Joe Satriani are great guitarists. Technically they might appear to be, but music isnt about quick fingers, but about soul, selfexpression, magic.
In that sense Prince is far superior to Jesse Johnson or John McCaughlin. The same goes for Jimi Hendrix, BB King, Richard Thompson, David Hidalgo and even Neil Young. | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Reading back a bit, but everyone who thinks John McCaughlin is a good guitarist, probably also thinks Steve Vai or Joe Satriani are great guitarists. Technically they might appear to be, but music isnt about quick fingers, but about soul, selfexpression, magic.
In that sense Prince is far superior to Jesse Johnson or John McCaughlin. The same goes for Jimi Hendrix, BB King, Richard Thompson, David Hidalgo and even Neil Young.  Whatever u Say..... ...it's groovy baby | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Sorry, to be frank, what have we heard from Jesse Johnson in the last 15 years????
Also, when i read the news about 'The Truth', a group formed by former Prince protegees, paying hommage to 'the Minneapolis sound', i think: you probably werent able to grab peoples attention with your own music, so you fall back to the music that gave you a short moment of glory. Face it, what has someone like Jesse done when he left the Prince camp?, what about Paul Peterson? What about Jellybean Johnson? They have surved the stream for a few years, but they arent capable of delivering interesting music by themselves.. face it, those guys were mediocre musicians lucky to benefit for a while from a genious called Prince, without him they would have stayed anonymous. I think it's hard for non-musicians (or people who have never made a living playing music) to realize that not being in the spotlight doesn't mean that one ceases to make music/be creative. I've commented on this before - there is more to life than being a member of Prince's camp. He is not the only musician out there and music doesn't revolve around him. There are other ways of making a living playing music. I wish some of u would read Michael Bland's posts - they paint a picture of what it really means to be a working musician. As a person who's done the starving musician thing, it's a blessing to be able to make a living making music. Whether it's playing with Prince, or playing the local clubs, it's all about the music. Not just about Prince. From your post, though, I'm probably wasting my time 
Oh, yeah, "genious" is spelled "genius"... [Edited 8/29/06 15:03pm] My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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Adisa, have you ever seen one of the video's of the material of St. Paul after he left the Prince camp, its pure cheese, without character.
And, as Jesse really is as great a guitarist some of you seem to make out of him, how come he has been invicible for at least 15 years now? I dare to take it even further, Morris day and the time wouldnt be an influence on popmusic nowadays without Princes involvement, even on their comeback album Pandemomium the best tracks are written by Prince. Notices Prince fans sometimes have problems to see things in perspective, Prince has influenced many musicians and producers, but his (former) sidekicks mostly did benefit from his input, by themselves they have never produced anything as substantial as their 'master'. Jill Jones was an expressive, characteristic singer, that wasnt promoted very well, the Time have released some fine albums (all written, arranged and produced by..... of course), Eric Leeds and Sheila E. are very fine players when it comes to their own instruments. But apart from that there has been nobody in the Prince-camp who did have the musical 'strength' to grow above it. | |
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I have seen Jesse and Prince live several tiems. Ihave extensive live footage of them playing guitar. They are 2 of my 3 favorite guitarists. But I include Dez Dickerson in any discussion about rock guitarists. | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Adisa, have you ever seen one of the video's of the material of St. Paul after he left the Prince camp, its pure cheese, without character.
And, as Jesse really is as great a guitarist some of you seem to make out of him, how come he has been invicible for at least 15 years now? I dare to take it even further, Morris day and the time wouldnt be an influence on popmusic nowadays without Princes involvement, even on their comeback album Pandemomium the best tracks are written by Prince. Notices Prince fans sometimes have problems to see things in perspective, Prince has influenced many musicians and producers, but his (former) sidekicks mostly did benefit from his input, by themselves they have never produced anything as substantial as their 'master'. Jill Jones was an expressive, characteristic singer, that wasnt promoted very well, the Time have released some fine albums (all written, arranged and produced by..... of course), Eric Leeds and Sheila E. are very fine players when it comes to their own instruments. But apart from that there has been nobody in the Prince-camp who did have the musical 'strength' to grow above it.  [Edited 8/30/06 7:57am] Space for sale... | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Reading back a bit, but everyone who thinks John McCaughlin is a good guitarist, probably also thinks Steve Vai or Joe Satriani are great guitarists. Technically they might appear to be, but music isnt about quick fingers, but about soul, selfexpression, magic.
In that sense Prince is far superior to Jesse Johnson or John McCaughlin. The same goes for Jimi Hendrix, BB King, Richard Thompson, David Hidalgo and even Neil Young. "The same goes for Jimi Hendrix?" Whoa Bud.....slow down there OK? Don't get too carried away. [Edited 8/30/06 6:25am] | |
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JesseDezz said: Riverpoet31 said: Sorry, to be frank, what have we heard from Jesse Johnson in the last 15 years????
Also, when i read the news about 'The Truth', a group formed by former Prince protegees, paying hommage to 'the Minneapolis sound', i think: you probably werent able to grab peoples attention with your own music, so you fall back to the music that gave you a short moment of glory. Face it, what has someone like Jesse done when he left the Prince camp?, what about Paul Peterson? What about Jellybean Johnson? They have surved the stream for a few years, but they arent capable of delivering interesting music by themselves.. face it, those guys were mediocre musicians lucky to benefit for a while from a genious called Prince, without him they would have stayed anonymous. I think it's hard for non-musicians (or people who have never made a living playing music) to realize that not being in the spotlight doesn't mean that one ceases to make music/be creative. I've commented on this before - there is more to life than being a member of Prince's camp. He is not the only musician out there and music doesn't revolve around him. There are other ways of making a living playing music. I wish some of u would read Michael Bland's posts - they paint a picture of what it really means to be a working musician. As a person who's done the starving musician thing, it's a blessing to be able to make a living making music. Whether it's playing with Prince, or playing the local clubs, it's all about the music. Not just about Prince. From your post, though, I'm probably wasting my time
Oh, yeah, "genious" is spelled "genius"... [Edited 8/29/06 15:03pm] THANK YOU !!!!! | |
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prettymansson said: JesseDezz said: I think it's hard for non-musicians (or people who have never made a living playing music) to realize that not being in the spotlight doesn't mean that one ceases to make music/be creative. I've commented on this before - there is more to life than being a member of Prince's camp. He is not the only musician out there and music doesn't revolve around him. There are other ways of making a living playing music. I wish some of u would read Michael Bland's posts - they paint a picture of what it really means to be a working musician. As a person who's done the starving musician thing, it's a blessing to be able to make a living making music. Whether it's playing with Prince, or playing the local clubs, it's all about the music. Not just about Prince. From your post, though, I'm probably wasting my time
Oh, yeah, "genious" is spelled "genius"... [Edited 8/29/06 15:03pm] THANK YOU !!!!! Co-sign. I live in Music City USA and I also "dabble" in music. So, for me, the best at this and that instrument (including guitar) are people who you will never hear of because they are not nor do they even want to be famous or working in show business. They just want to be working. There's a huge difference. I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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JesseDezz said: I think it's hard for non-musicians (or people who have never made a living playing music) to realize that not being in the spotlight doesn't mean that one ceases to make music/be creative. I've commented on this before - there is more to life than being a member of Prince's camp. He is not the only musician out there and music doesn't revolve around him. There are other ways of making a living playing music. I wish some of u would read Michael Bland's posts - they paint a picture of what it really means to be a working musician. As a person who's done the starving musician thing, it's a blessing to be able to make a living making music. Whether it's playing with Prince, or playing the local clubs, it's all about the music. Not just about Prince. From your post, though, I'm probably wasting my time
Oh, yeah, "genious" is spelled "genius"... [Edited 8/29/06 15:03pm] [/quote] U are 100% correct. | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Sorry, to be frank, what have we heard from Jesse Johnson in the last 15 years???? Also, when i read the news about 'The Truth', a group formed by former Prince protegees, paying hommage to 'the Minneapolis sound', i think: you probably werent able to grab peoples attention with your own music, so you fall back to the music that gave you a short moment of glory. Face it, what has someone like Jesse done when he left the Prince camp?, what about Paul Peterson? What about Jellybean Johnson? They have surved the stream for a few years, but they arent capable of delivering interesting music by themselves.. face it, those guys were mediocre musicians lucky to benefit for a while from a genious called Prince, without him they would have stayed anonymous. Adisa, have you ever seen one of the video's of the material of St. Paul after he left the Prince camp, its pure cheese, without character. And, as Jesse really is as great a guitarist some of you seem to make out of him, how come he has been invicible for at least 15 years now? I dare to take it even further, Morris day and the time wouldnt be an influence on popmusic nowadays without Princes involvement, even on their comeback album Pandemomium the best tracks are written by Prince. Notices Prince fans sometimes have problems to see things in perspective, Prince has influenced many musicians and producers, but his (former) sidekicks mostly did benefit from his input, by themselves they have never produced anything as substantial as their 'master'. Jill Jones was an expressive, characteristic singer, that wasnt promoted very well, the Time have released some fine albums (all written, arranged and produced by..... of course), Eric Leeds and Sheila E. are very fine players when it comes to their own instruments. But apart from that there has been nobody in the Prince-camp who did have the musical 'strength' to grow above it. They've grown in their own right as everyone should be able to . Whoever made a rule to grow above an artist ? Are they any less without that ? No , they're musicians and choose the way they want to live their career . Seems narrowminded views make it unable to see otherwise . Funny how one tends to think that when an artist is out the spotlight , it is taken for granted that the artist probably is totally out of the scene ... it's not always about hittin' the jackpot , outplaying/composing and throwing celebrity-parties . It's about music what comes in ones mind and loves to make without the thought to grow above another talent . Everyone's style is unique . . . . [Edited 8/30/06 10:25am] | |
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i think both of them are imitations of santana only prince took it alittle bit further than santana. | |
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CleopatraJones said: sexxydancer said: Idon't think Jesse is no where as good as Prince is-he's okay,tho,but Prince is THE master guitarist!
Jesse is better than Prince on guitar.....not looks....but definitely guitar! You really think so huh? Well check this out. http://www.youtube.com/wa...ND7wSZj-L0 | |
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