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Thread started 08/15/06 11:44am

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Some nice quotes about Prince from Joni Mitchell

An excerpt from Interview Magazine, April 1991

Prince always cites you as a major inspiration. What do you think he assimilated from your music?

Well, Prince has assimilated some of my harmony, which, because it comes out of my guitar tunings, is peculiar. A lot of times my chords depict complex emotions— Joni's weird chords. Prince saw me play when he was very young in Minneapolis, and I remember seeing him in the front row, because his eyes are so unusual. You know, they're, like, Egyptian.

It's amazing that you would remember someone from the audience. You must have seen so many faces.

Yeah, but I remember I played a lot to him because his eyes were so unusual. Every time the light would spill down there, and he'd kind of hide inside his coat and look up at me.




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Reply #1 posted 08/15/06 11:46am

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Very cool!
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Reply #2 posted 08/15/06 11:51am

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I can just imagine him staring up at her with those big eyes of his. It would have stuck in my memory too.
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Reply #3 posted 08/15/06 12:00pm

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i love this story...despite the fact that so many dont believe it to be true.
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Reply #4 posted 08/15/06 12:02pm

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Reply #5 posted 08/15/06 12:04pm

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Awwwww! biggrin


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Reply #6 posted 08/15/06 12:10pm

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A lineage of a particular family.

Just sharing... promisekept.
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Reply #7 posted 08/15/06 12:23pm

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promisekept said:

A lineage of a particular family.

Just sharing... promisekept.



What do you mean?
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Reply #8 posted 08/15/06 12:37pm

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UCantHavaDaMango said:

promisekept said:

A lineage of a particular family.

Just sharing... promisekept.



What do you mean?


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Reply #9 posted 08/15/06 7:20pm

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‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #10 posted 08/16/06 4:07am

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I wonder when this was then? as wasn't is Lisa Coleman who turned him onto Joni? So I wonder if this was like 1980/81, as any time after that he probably wouldn't be able to go to a concert unrecognised?
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Reply #11 posted 08/16/06 5:10am

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softandwet said:

I wonder when this was then? as wasn't is Lisa Coleman who turned him onto Joni? So I wonder if this was like 1980/81, as any time after that he probably wouldn't be able to go to a concert unrecognised?



Prince was 15. This was before he was famous.... wink
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Reply #12 posted 08/16/06 6:03am

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Joni is so amazing. So many of my favorite artists cite her as a huge influence (Prince, Tori Amos, Led Zepplin, etc.)
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Reply #13 posted 08/16/06 6:34am

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thank U 4 the posting..."it's in ur eyes, what can eye say?, they turn me on, drive me crazy, drive me all night...2 wake up the connection"

the eyes are the doorway to the soul. love2joni
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promisekept said:

A lineage of a particular family.

Just sharing... promisekept.


OMG!..... It's TRUE! Prince really is the reincarnate soul of Ahknaten. touched


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Reply #15 posted 08/16/06 2:21pm

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a shy beautiful egyptian eyed Joni stalker. so precious
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Reply #16 posted 08/16/06 2:28pm

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sosgemini said:

i love this story...despite the fact that so many dont believe it to be true.

I dont think it is true.
But I do believe is a great story.
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Reply #17 posted 08/16/06 3:46pm

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I love Joni. She rocks. And thank you to whoever posted that youtube link, Coyote is one of my favorite Joni songs. And Hejira is my favorite album, as I'm a big Jaco Pastorius fan too.
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Reply #18 posted 08/16/06 4:07pm

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wow, she remembered him? how can that be? she's got a great memory. he would hide in his coat... awwwww mushy
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Reply #19 posted 08/16/06 4:44pm

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The big eyes keep that damned big head balanced.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #20 posted 08/16/06 11:09pm

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Flowerz said:

softandwet said:

I wonder when this was then? as wasn't is Lisa Coleman who turned him onto Joni? So I wonder if this was like 1980/81, as any time after that he probably wouldn't be able to go to a concert unrecognised?



Prince was 15. This was before he was famous.... wink



nod He's known Lisa (and Wendy) for a long time.
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Reply #21 posted 08/17/06 6:19am

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WOW!
I love Joni and knowing she said this about Prince is so nice!!!!

I can really see a young admiring prince watching her play.... biggrin
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Reply #22 posted 08/17/06 7:06am

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Aaaahhh mushy

I love it.
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Reply #23 posted 08/17/06 8:14am

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Flowerz said:




Prince was 15. This was before he was famous.... wink



nod He's known Lisa (and Wendy) for a long time.


Are you sure? I thought he met Wendy through Lisa? I thought the whole thing was that Lisa turned him onto Joni and its reflected because the Dirty Mind album (is that the first I think) says 'thanks 2 joni' on it. then controversy had a similar message. Why not put those messages on before Lisa joined the band if he already liked Joni Mitchell? How confusing!
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Reply #24 posted 08/17/06 8:52am

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That was really nice (and hopefully true) of Joni to say. I love anyone who loves my Prince.

Awww, I bet he was cute at 15. Does anybody know of some pictures of him as a little squirt? I can imagine that they would be hard to find.
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Reply #25 posted 08/17/06 8:55am

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softandwet said:

whodknee said:




nod He's known Lisa (and Wendy) for a long time.


Are you sure? I thought he met Wendy through Lisa? I thought the whole thing was that Lisa turned him onto Joni and its reflected because the Dirty Mind album (is that the first I think) says 'thanks 2 joni' on it. then controversy had a similar message. Why not put those messages on before Lisa joined the band if he already liked Joni Mitchell? How confusing!

Just because he met Wendy through Lisa doesn't mean it wasn't wayback when, before he was famous. He probably met Lisa around 15-16 yrs. old, met Wendy shortly after and they were friends. The public may have have seen each of them in the band at a certain time, but that doesn't they didn't know each other before hand.

But I don't really know, just making up a theory shrug
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Steph07 said:

That was really nice (and hopefully true) of Joni to say. I love anyone who loves my Prince.

Awww, I bet he was cute at 15. Does anybody know of some pictures of him as a little squirt? I can imagine that they would be hard to find.




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I guess we all had our awkward phases. biggrin

Oh, and that's one of his baby pics in my avatar. So cute!
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Reply #27 posted 08/17/06 1:14pm

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That's a sweet story, even if it does reek of complete bullshit biggrin
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Reply #28 posted 08/17/06 2:57pm

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That's adorable. Probably too cute to be true, but I can just picture baby Prince staring up at Ms. Mitchell with those great big pretty eyes of his. Too sweet. thumbs up!
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Reply #29 posted 08/17/06 3:17pm

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Influences: Joni Mitchell

The folky songsmith discusses great artists and synchronicity. Just don’t call her a poet.

* By Ethan Brown

What kept you going, culturally speaking, when you were a child growing up in the tiny town of North Battleford, Saskatchewan, and battling polio?

I loved Debussy, Stravinsky, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, anything with romantic melodies, especially the nocturnes. Nietzsche was a hero, especially with Thus Spoke Zarathustra. He gets a bad rap; he’s very misunderstood. He’s a maker of individuals, and he was a teacher of teachers.

In the seventh grade, I had a teacher who declared that the curriculum was useless. So he read Rudyard Kipling’s Kim to us every morning until the book was completed. That was very influential for me. My favorite line in all of literature is Rudyard Kipling’s monkey: “My people are the wisest people in the jungle, my people have always said so.”

[color=black]What sort of art and music affected you when you arrived in New York in the late sixties?

Abstract Expressionists like Pollock and Barnett Newman were big at the time, but I was not a fan. I wanted to paint in a folk-artist-y way. My heroes were Van Gogh, Gauguin, Matisse, and Rembrandt. I think Picasso is about as a modern as I got. But I incorporated things that they rejected as well as movements that happened later.
What about your songwriting, which is really so densely literate? Who influenced you there? Great poets? Or something else?


I didn’t like poetry. When I read the Shakespearean sonnets, I feel like some of them are mercenary. How many poems can you write where you say, “You’re so beautiful that you should reproduce yourself and I’m the guy to do it”? [Laughs.] They can’t all be inspired. It’s like somebody came to him and said, “Give me a poem like you did for Joe and I’ll give you 50 bucks.” I find a lot of poetry to be narcissistic. I agree with Nietzsche on the poets. He said something like: “The poet is the vainest of the vain, the peacock of the peacocks . . . he muddles his waters so that they might appear deep.” I know I’m throwing the baby out with the bathwater in a lot of ways. I guess there are a few poets I like, though, like E. J. Pratt and Carl Sandburg.

Were you similarly skeptical about the folk scene in New York in the late sixties?

No. I briefly liked Leonard Cohen, though once I read Camus and Lorca I started to realize that he had taken a lot of lines from those books, which was disappointing to me. Dylan was an influence even though initially I was a detractor. I thought he was a Woody Guthrie copycat. It’s in my stars to invent; I was born on Madame Curie’s birthday. I have this need for originals, for innovation. That’s why I like Charlie Parker.

I’m curious if you were affected by the great American cinema of the seventies, especially as you performed with the Band in Scorsese’s Last Waltz.

I really didn’t see Martin. I was the only woman there; they added a couple of women after the fact. So that was strange—it was like being a girl on a football team. But I think Scorsese and [Scorsese’s longtime editor] Thelma Schoonmaker technically are magnificent. She’s the best editor in the world. In terms of editing and constructing a film, they’re at the zenith. I love Fellini. I like the Russian filmmaker Tarkovsky. I like some of the French New Wave, though sometimes the movies were boring and I just watched the clothes; they had these great fashions by Coco Chanel. My style of songwriting is influenced by cinema. I’m a frustrated filmmaker. A fan once said to me, “Girl, you make me see pictures in my head!” and I took that as a great compliment. That’s exactly my intention.

Apropos of Charlie Parker, did you also take a dim view of avant-jazz? How did your collaboration with Mingus shape your impressions of the genre?

I wasn’t a fan—he chose me for the project. But I came to be very fond of him in a short space of time. Like me, he had a wide emotional spectrum, from timid—well, I guess I’m not so timid anymore [Laughs.]—to a raging bull. But I did like his most melodic songs, like “Reincarnation of a Love Bird.” I didn’t appreciate the bombastic quality of Mingus’s music until I sat in amongst the horns with them puffing all around me. That’s the best way to appreciate Mingus, to be sitting right in the horn section. That was a thrill.

So you’re more of a standards person, then.

Yes. I like Duke. And I love Miles Davis’s bands—especially the one with Wayne Shorter and Herbie Hancock. That incarnation of Miles’s work I just loved. And I had the honor of playing with those people.
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You must have always wanted to make the standards record you released in 2000, Both Sides Now?

No. I had to fulfill a contract—I wasn’t writing. The business had just worn me down to where I couldn’t write and didn’t want to write. There was no public recognition for my work and none at my record company. It was the same frustration that Van Gogh and Gauguin felt when I read back on them. But, yes, standards are part of my roots, whether it’s visible or not. I think people were surprised that I’d absorbed standards. People just assumed that I didn’t understand that. I don’t think I proved myself to guys like Herbie Hancock until I did standards.

But even when you were somewhat obscure, so many musicians were citing you as an influence or even name-checking you in songs. Of all the musicians and rappers who have cited you as an influence, whose work do you appreciate most?

Prince. Prince attended one of my concerts in Minnesota. I remember seeing him sitting in the front row when he was very young. He must have been about 15. He was in an aisle seat and he had unusually big eyes. He watched the whole show with his collar up, looking side to side. You couldn’t miss him—he was a little Prince-ling. [Laughs.] Prince used to write me fan mail with all of the U’s and hearts that way that he writes. And the office took it as mail from the lunatic fringe and just tossed it! [Laughs.]

[color=black]What are you reading now?

I’m not reading—I’m writing my memoirs. I have someone sit with me and we speak into a tape recorder. I’m getting it down in the oral tradition.

Are there any memoirs that you’ve liked?

My publisher gave me Carl Jung’s autobiography, Memories, Dreams, Reflections. I thought it was a good choice. The things that interest him are the things that interest me—particularly synchronistic events. I kind of pick up where he left off. In terms of fiction, I’d rather go out and have a good time than read a book about someone having a good or bad time.

What about philosophers or political leaders? Is anyone inspiring you right now?

No. The world is full of madmen and shortsighted money-mongers. Mandela, Tutu, the Dalai Lama—other than them, the world is totally lacking in great men.



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