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Thread started 08/19/06 9:38pm

xplnyrslf

If you only had your ears to come to a conclusion

ELIMINATE VISUAL AND CONCERT PERSONIFICATION.....Musicwise....how does P's body of work compared to all the other superstars in the past 20 years hold up??? Explain why.
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Reply #1 posted 08/19/06 9:43pm

christos7

Why do people constantly feel the need 2 compare?
The work itself is surely many different things 2 many different people.
I'm just thankful that, in my opinion, it's timeless..
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Reply #2 posted 08/19/06 9:45pm

sexxydancer

Prince's music stands head and shoulders above the rest-THE best performer in the history of music,2 me!
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Reply #3 posted 08/19/06 9:46pm

nurse

No comparison needed-he is music wink .
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Reply #4 posted 08/19/06 10:01pm

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Conclusion: Prince is one of the greatest musicians of all time!
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Reply #5 posted 08/20/06 12:04am

xplnyrslf

MJ and Madonna's popularity has significant contribution by MTV. Prince has alot more albumes, cd's, etc and isn't dependant on the music videos for listeners and fans. As far as talent goes he's far ahead of the pack without the visual image. I just think he's underestimated as a artist.
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Reply #6 posted 08/20/06 9:21am

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former genius who is now so self indulgent that his music is affected by it. (just like madge, janet and mj.) he still has it in him to compete with the best, but only if and when he is willing.

IMHO there are other artist that have eclipsed his musical genius (bjork, radiohead, kate bush, sade, ani difranco)...and then there are other artist who have eclipsed his commercial appeal (mariah, beyonce) but their music doesnt come anywhere near prince's during his best (and worst) days.
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Reply #7 posted 08/20/06 10:20am

whoknows

sosgemini said:

former genius who is now so self indulgent that his music is affected by it. (just like madge, janet and mj.) he still has it in him to compete with the best, but only if and when he is willing.

IMHO there are other artist that have eclipsed his musical genius (bjork, radiohead, kate bush, sade, ani difranco)...and then there are other artist who have eclipsed his commercial appeal (mariah, beyonce) but their music doesnt come anywhere near prince's during his best (and worst) days.

This may be the first time I've ever significantly disagreed with sos, but you think Sade eclipsed his musical genius? In the words of John McEnroe "You can not be serious!"
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Reply #8 posted 08/20/06 10:48am

xplnyrslf

sosgemini said:

former genius who is now so self indulgent that his music is affected by it. (just like madge, janet and mj.) he still has it in him to compete with the best, but only if and when he is willing.

IMHO there are other artist that have eclipsed his musical genius (bjork, radiohead, kate bush, sade, ani difranco)...and then there are other artist who have eclipsed his commercial appeal (mariah, beyonce) but their music doesnt come anywhere near prince's during his best (and worst) days.


CURRENT genius. After wrapping up the forum on why orgers prefer P's older music, and the top 10 reasons, I just think he's underestimated. As much as he's done all these years, maybe he needs to reorganize which might be what he's doing now. WTF??? SADE? bjork? I own 1 Sade cd and 1 Radiohead cd. Sade is good if I need a nap. IMO. P wakes me up and gets me thru a 10 m run at 5 AM.
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Reply #9 posted 08/20/06 10:56am

xplnyrslf

christos7 said:

Why do people constantly feel the need 2 compare?
The work itself is surely many different things 2 many different people.
I'm just thankful that, in my opinion, it's timeless..


Because I feel like it.
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Reply #10 posted 08/20/06 11:48am

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whoknows said:

sosgemini said:

former genius who is now so self indulgent that his music is affected by it. (just like madge, janet and mj.) he still has it in him to compete with the best, but only if and when he is willing.

IMHO there are other artist that have eclipsed his musical genius (bjork, radiohead, kate bush, sade, ani difranco)...and then there are other artist who have eclipsed his commercial appeal (mariah, beyonce) but their music doesnt come anywhere near prince's during his best (and worst) days.

This may be the first time I've ever significantly disagreed with sos, but you think Sade eclipsed his musical genius? In the words of John McEnroe "You can not be serious!"


lol

tis okay to disagree. but yes, I do...Sade's lyrics can not be touched by anyone. id dare to say she is one of our worlds best poets.
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Reply #11 posted 08/20/06 11:53am

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xplnyrslf said:

sosgemini said:

former genius who is now so self indulgent that his music is affected by it. (just like madge, janet and mj.) he still has it in him to compete with the best, but only if and when he is willing.

IMHO there are other artist that have eclipsed his musical genius (bjork, radiohead, kate bush, sade, ani difranco)...and then there are other artist who have eclipsed his commercial appeal (mariah, beyonce) but their music doesnt come anywhere near prince's during his best (and worst) days.


CURRENT genius. After wrapping up the forum on why orgers prefer P's older music, and the top 10 reasons, I just think he's underestimated. As much as he's done all these years, maybe he needs to reorganize which might be what he's doing now. WTF??? SADE? bjork? I own 1 Sade cd and 1 Radiohead cd. Sade is good if I need a nap. IMO. P wakes me up and gets me thru a 10 m run at 5 AM.


i listen to a bounty of house music when i work out...but i dont equate the ability to keep one motivated while running as proof of musical worth.

look folks, dont get me wrong...i love a couple songs on 3121...i just dont regard the guy as a consistent talent anymore...aimee mann is another example of an artist who has been on a consistent roll.
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Reply #12 posted 08/20/06 4:25pm

christos7

xplnyrslf said:

christos7 said:

Why do people constantly feel the need 2 compare?
The work itself is surely many different things 2 many different people.
I'm just thankful that, in my opinion, it's timeless..


Because I feel like it.



U feel like IT constantly, don't U nurse? razz
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Reply #13 posted 08/20/06 5:14pm

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Michael Jackson is wacked

Madonna is still doing very well.

Prince falls somewhere between those too.

Granted to see the reality of my statement you need factor in the quality of music it took each artist to achieve such a statius.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #14 posted 08/20/06 5:27pm

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depends, how bored i'm feeling. and what it's worth.
young, dumb, and no fun..
most of my threads are missing
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Reply #15 posted 08/20/06 5:57pm

xplnyrslf

sosgemini said:

xplnyrslf said:



CURRENT genius. After wrapping up the forum on why orgers prefer P's older music, and the top 10 reasons, I just think he's underestimated. As much as he's done all these years, maybe he needs to reorganize which might be what he's doing now. WTF??? SADE? bjork? I own 1 Sade cd and 1 Radiohead cd. Sade is good if I need a nap. IMO. P wakes me up and gets me thru a 10 m run at 5 AM.


i listen to a bounty of house music when i work out...but i dont equate the ability to keep one motivated while running as proof of musical worth.

look folks, dont get me wrong...i love a couple songs on 3121...i just dont regard the guy as a consistent talent anymore...aimee mann is another example of an artist who has been on a consistent roll.


I can't work out to "Diamond Life" I'm self motivated with running It just helps getting up a difficult hill to have something like "Continental" on my headphones.
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Reply #16 posted 08/20/06 5:58pm

xplnyrslf

christos7 said:

xplnyrslf said:



Because I feel like it.



U feel like IT constantly, don't U nurse? razz


What makes you think I'm a nurse?
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Reply #17 posted 08/20/06 6:11pm

xplnyrslf

MickG said:

Michael Jackson is wacked

Madonna is still doing very well.

Prince falls somewhere between those too.

Granted to see the reality of my statement you need factor in the quality of music it took each artist to achieve such a statius.


MJ's not doing much musicwise, and if he did, do you think anyone would buy it? He's past tense. I understand the importance of his music. Unfortunately, this is another example of one's personal life impinging on professional. Madonna...haven't listened to her in a long time. She keeps touring which keeps the fans happy. It helps record sales. She's a great businesswoman. If P toured would that make the difference?
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Reply #18 posted 08/20/06 6:16pm

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xplnyrslf said:

She keeps touring which keeps the fans happy. It helps record sales. She's a great businesswoman. If P toured would that make the difference?


I don't really think it has much to do with touring at all. I don't think touring does anything for madonna besides putting more money on her pile. Madonna, for the most part, has a standard product. She's well grounded, in as much as she lives life. Prince however, doesn't live life. Prince lives in the illusionary world he's built around being Prince. That is the factor that makes Prince's music more disconnected from a more common reality. That's what makes Prince less sellable then Madonna.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #19 posted 08/20/06 9:26pm

xplnyrslf

MickG said:

xplnyrslf said:

She keeps touring which keeps the fans happy. It helps record sales. She's a great businesswoman. If P toured would that make the difference?


I don't really think it has much to do with touring at all. I don't think touring does anything for madonna besides putting more money on her pile. Madonna, for the most part, has a standard product. She's well grounded, in as much as she lives life. Prince however, doesn't live life. Prince lives in the illusionary world he's built around being Prince. That is the factor that makes Prince's music more disconnected from a more common reality. That's what makes Prince less sellable then Madonna.


If you compare the musical output, you think Madonna has a larger body of work that's had as much influence as Prince? What do you mean by P's illusionary world?
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Reply #20 posted 08/21/06 12:42am

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xplnyrslf said:


If you compare the musical output, you think Madonna has a larger body of work that's had as much influence as Prince? What do you mean by P's illusionary world?


Influence? As on new and upcomming artists? Then such things are debatable. I'd say yes Madonna has just as much influence, at least, and I might argue she has more influence in mainstream popculture.

Prince's Illusionary world is that which he believes himself as a person to be in, or at least pertray a belief as to be in outwardly. Such as Ego, and Hype, Pimping and shit like that.

That bullshit Prince pertrays, strange but true, is also the reason every "artist" that he backed fails.

If I wanted to be a musician, and Prince came to me asking to back me, I'd have to say "Yeah Prince, I love you, but your backing is the Kiss of Death", thanks but no thanks.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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