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Thread started 08/14/06 8:59am

NatePerk

Does Prince read music??

Does Prince read music or does he play by ear??
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Reply #1 posted 08/14/06 9:05am

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some think he doesn't read music. It is obvious he does "play by ear" and is not trained in "musical theory", I do believe he can read sheet music, but that playing by ear is how he works best. If course, this is just my opinion, based on comments to me from people he has worked with.
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Reply #2 posted 08/14/06 9:07am

bellanoche

Michael B. said that Prince didn't read music as far as he knew. Check out the Associated Artists forum.
perfection is a fallacy of the imagination...
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Reply #3 posted 08/14/06 9:09am

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txladykat said:

some think he doesn't read music. It is obvious he does "play by ear" and is not trained in "musical theory", I do believe he can read sheet music, but that playing by ear is how he works best. If course, this is just my opinion, based on comments to me from people he has worked with.



I agree. I've heard people say he can't read, but I have a hard time believing it. How could he have been in high school band without knowing how to read music? I guess he could have just picked up what the people around him were doing, but they would have taught him to read in band anyway. Even if he didn't learn in high school, I would think that a man who is so musical would learn eventually, and pick it up very quickly.
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Reply #4 posted 08/14/06 9:27am

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UCantHavaDaMan said:
I agree. I've heard people say he can't read, but I have a hard time believing it. How could he have been in high school band without knowing how to read music? I guess he could have just picked up what the people around him were doing, but they would have taught him to read in band anyway. Even if he didn't learn in high school, I would think that a man who is so musical would learn eventually, and pick it up very quickly.


I was in band for two years. They taught us how to read music, but I had a hard time learning the chords. So maybe Prince didn't learn it either. Or it just may be that Prince is just musically inclined.
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Reply #5 posted 08/14/06 9:40am

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He said at a rehersal in 2002 that he couldn't read sheet music, and that was why he had Najee in the band. Yet Prince had a book of something in front of him as he was sitting at the keyboard, maybe it was just lyrics and not notes.
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Reply #6 posted 08/14/06 9:43am

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That's just so weird to me. I guess it's because I learned to read music when I was 6, and all of my musician friends knew how to as well. I can't imagine someone like Prince never learning how. Oh well, I guess that's why they call him gifted.
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Reply #7 posted 08/14/06 9:46am

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Isn't prince reading his fathers sheet music in Purple Rain? smile And playing with notes on his computer screen in the beginning of Graffiti Bridge?
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Reply #8 posted 08/14/06 9:50am

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Prince said he couldn't read music. He said it in an interivew on an Austrailian show.
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Reply #9 posted 08/14/06 10:08am

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you also have to take into considerations the context of the statement "cant read sheet music". I don't consider myself being able to "read music" because I can't "sight read". I know "how" to read the music, I can look at the lines and determine what keys are being played, but I can't just sit down with a sheet of music and play it through whilst following along...I go through, slowly reading the music,kinda get a feel for the notes, then go back and practice learning it more by ear and memorization of some of the notes I read.
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Reply #10 posted 08/14/06 10:10am

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Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge...


razz
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Reply #11 posted 08/14/06 10:13am

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FruitToAttractBears said:

Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge...


razz


ROFL

I always used:

FACE-G

and

very good dog deserves fun

lol
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Reply #12 posted 08/14/06 10:15am

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txladykat said:

FruitToAttractBears said:

Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge...


razz


ROFL

I always used:

FACE-G

and

very good dog deserves fun

lol


That's a good one. lol

Another one I used... "Put a FACE in the space!"

Just saying that takes me back to 1st grade. XD
"18 years old, and she knows her funk!!! headbang"
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Reply #13 posted 08/14/06 10:17am

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Tom said:

Isn't prince reading his fathers sheet music in Purple Rain? smile And playing with notes on his computer screen in the beginning of Graffiti Bridge?

uhh, those were movies. - The man can't read music but he can play the hell out of it! He's a genius ain't ya heard? smile
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Reply #14 posted 08/14/06 10:17am

SexyBeautifulO
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I can't believe I'm saying this but haven't we learned over the years that Prince says a lot of things that aren't necessarily the whole truth just simply to add intrigue to his mystique?
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Reply #15 posted 08/14/06 10:19am

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FruitToAttractBears said:

txladykat said:



ROFL

I always used:

FACE-G

and

very good dog deserves fun

lol


That's a good one. lol

Another one I used... "Put a FACE in the space!"

Just saying that takes me back to 1st grade. XD


oops that was supposed to read "every" not "very" LOL
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Reply #16 posted 08/14/06 10:19am

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joseph8 said:

Tom said:

Isn't prince reading his fathers sheet music in Purple Rain? smile And playing with notes on his computer screen in the beginning of Graffiti Bridge?

uhh, those were movies. - The man can't read music but he can play the hell out of it! He's a genius ain't ya heard? smile


BUT...how can you write music if you can't read it? Hmm? HMM?
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Reply #17 posted 08/14/06 10:20am

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FruitToAttractBears said:

joseph8 said:


uhh, those were movies. - The man can't read music but he can play the hell out of it! He's a genius ain't ya heard? smile


BUT...how can you write music if you can't read it? Hmm? HMM?


that is easy, it is all in the ear.....I know lots of musicians who can create music, but can't read it wink , Prince's songbooks aren't written by him anyways....they are interpreted by others in listening to his music..hence why the songs are sometimes off wink
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Reply #18 posted 08/14/06 10:26am

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txladykat said:

FruitToAttractBears said:



BUT...how can you write music if you can't read it? Hmm? HMM?


that is easy, it is all in the ear.....I know lots of musicians who can create music, but can't read it wink , Prince's songbooks aren't written by him anyways....they are interpreted by others in listening to his music..hence why the songs are sometimes off wink


But you're forgetting...Prince lies. wink
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Reply #19 posted 08/14/06 10:33am

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guess prince reads guitar tabs and chords like the way
C-Am-G-F what are the chords of purple rain.

after the years he may have learned to write down some chords in the way
some jazzer or classics do ? Normally those people have music teachers or they study music. Prince was self tought and didnt study.

By the way you dont need notes eaven you play jazz.You only need to know what scale to play ovber some chords and i guess Prince knows what he#s playin !

but it doesnt matter if he does. there are a couple of good musicians who cannot read notes. What they are playin is what they have in mind.

or did you ever see J.Hendrix, Steve Ray Vaughan BB King or Eric Clapton read their songs up from a letter ? guess not...

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Reply #20 posted 08/14/06 10:52am

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wickedsmith said:

guess prince reads guitar tabs and chords like the way
C-Am-G-F what are the chords of purple rain.

after the years he may have learned to write down some chords in the way
some jazzer or classics do ? Normally those people have music teachers or they study music. Prince was self tought and didnt study.

By the way you dont need notes eaven you play jazz.You only need to know what scale to play ovber some chords and i guess Prince knows what he#s playin !

but it doesnt matter if he does. there are a couple of good musicians who cannot read notes. What they are playin is what they have in mind.

or did you ever see J.Hendrix, Steve Ray Vaughan BB King or Eric Clapton read their songs up from a letter ? guess not...

No but Hendrix said he wanted to be able to read and write music so he could compose epic numbers using string sections and hiring other musicians to play what he wanted on his records. he mentioned wanting to go to music school!

It helps in certain cases; especially if your using string sections and asking experienced musicians to play; if you could write it down or interprete it i guess that could only help?
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Reply #21 posted 08/14/06 11:17am

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Doesn't matter at all-he's the greatest at what he does anyway!
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Reply #22 posted 08/14/06 11:29am

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Prince can read. rolleyes
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #23 posted 08/14/06 12:43pm

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Can he? If he wanted to learn, yes. Does he? No.
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Reply #24 posted 08/14/06 12:44pm

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FruitToAttractBears said:

joseph8 said:


uhh, those were movies. - The man can't read music but he can play the hell out of it! He's a genius ain't ya heard? smile


BUT...how can you write music if you can't read it? Hmm? HMM?


By noodling on an instrument and singing your lyrics until you get it right.
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Reply #25 posted 08/14/06 1:02pm

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wickedsmith said:

guess prince reads guitar tabs and chords like the way
C-Am-G-F what are the chords of purple rain.

after the years he may have learned to write down some chords in the way
some jazzer or classics do ? Normally those people have music teachers or they study music. Prince was self tought and didnt study.

By the way you dont need notes eaven you play jazz.You only need to know what scale to play ovber some chords and i guess Prince knows what he#s playin !

but it doesnt matter if he does. there are a couple of good musicians who cannot read notes. What they are playin is what they have in mind.

or did you ever see J.Hendrix, Steve Ray Vaughan BB King or Eric Clapton read their songs up from a letter ? guess not...

greats by wickedsmith
www.rockfunk.de


and how do you know what "scale" to play if you don't read music/notes? lol its all relevant.....knowing what the scales are indicates you have some knowledge of musical notations
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Reply #26 posted 08/14/06 1:05pm

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NDRU said:

FruitToAttractBears said:



BUT...how can you write music if you can't read it? Hmm? HMM?


By noodling on an instrument and singing your lyrics until you get it right.


No, I mean literally WRITE. Like with a pen and paper.
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Reply #27 posted 08/14/06 1:13pm

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FruitToAttractBears said:

NDRU said:



By noodling on an instrument and singing your lyrics until you get it right.


No, I mean literally WRITE. Like with a pen and paper.


maybe you're joking, but you can write songs without actually writing them on paper.
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Reply #28 posted 08/14/06 1:14pm

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txladykat said:

wickedsmith said:

guess prince reads guitar tabs and chords like the way
C-Am-G-F what are the chords of purple rain.

after the years he may have learned to write down some chords in the way
some jazzer or classics do ? Normally those people have music teachers or they study music. Prince was self tought and didnt study.

By the way you dont need notes eaven you play jazz.You only need to know what scale to play ovber some chords and i guess Prince knows what he#s playin !

but it doesnt matter if he does. there are a couple of good musicians who cannot read notes. What they are playin is what they have in mind.

or did you ever see J.Hendrix, Steve Ray Vaughan BB King or Eric Clapton read their songs up from a letter ? guess not...

greats by wickedsmith
www.rockfunk.de


and how do you know what "scale" to play if you don't read music/notes? lol its all relevant.....knowing what the scales are indicates you have some knowledge of musical notations


knowing scales on an instrument & knowing them on paper are two different things.
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Reply #29 posted 08/14/06 1:20pm

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NDRU said:

FruitToAttractBears said:



No, I mean literally WRITE. Like with a pen and paper.


maybe you're joking, but you can write songs without actually writing them on paper.


I know you CAN, but I was talking about literally writing a song and referring to the acutally written music seen in Graffiti Bridge. If he can't read music (or wants us to think he can't) how do you explain that hand-written sheet music? He couldn't have written that without being able to read it.
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