goosebumps said: NDRU said: The one way I think the Batman soundtrack is really good is lyrically. Seems having characters he could relate to himself kind of inspired Prince. But the music is kind of thin. To me the album is full of filler, but I do like The Future, Vicki Waiting and Electric Chair. It was such a disapointment after Lovesexy.I couldn't believe he was doing a soundtrack to a mainstream film. I'd rather he had done something else. But I do acknowledge the dark/light- Batman/Joker element he was trying too achieve like the Black Album/Lovesexy subject. It's ironic that Lovesexy was seen basically as a failure by everyone except the hardcore fans, when it's much more satisfying musically. My Legacy
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Graffiti Bridge- THE ALBUM WAS BULLS**T!!!!! And as far as the MOVIE, The Time SAVED THAT MOVIE!!!!!
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BUT I WILL SAY THIS: That's what being an "artist" is all about.....TAKING CHANCES!!!!! Even though the "sequel" was 6 years too late!!!!! | |
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woogiebear said: Graffiti Bridge- THE ALBUM WAS BULLS**T!!!!! And as far as the MOVIE, The Time SAVED THAT MOVIE!!!!!
If you think about it Morris did wonders for Purple Rain as well. But back to Graffiti Bridge. I always thought it was the movie that sucked back but the album was okay. | |
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wonder505 said: woogiebear said: Graffiti Bridge- THE ALBUM WAS BULLS**T!!!!! And as far as the MOVIE, The Time SAVED THAT MOVIE!!!!!
If you think about it Morris did wonders for Purple Rain as well. But back to Graffiti Bridge. I always thought it was the movie that sucked back but the album was okay. Morris added humour to Purple Rain - Grafitti Bridge made me cry - Mainly for the £10 quid I handed over for it I like your Avatar !!! | |
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It's the oppion of several majorities that Batman was among the first of several nails in his coffin. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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MickG said: It's the oppion of several majorities that Batman was among the first of several nails in his coffin.
Batman was a cute album Personally speaking all the albums where good up to TRC.....Then things took an odd turn..... | |
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purpledisc said: wonder505 said: If you think about it Morris did wonders for Purple Rain as well. But back to Graffiti Bridge. I always thought it was the movie that sucked back but the album was okay. Morris added humour to Purple Rain - Grafitti Bridge made me cry - Mainly for the £10 quid I handed over for it I like your Avatar !!! Whoa, you paid way too much...and thanks! | |
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purpledisc said: MickG said: It's the oppion of several majorities that Batman was among the first of several nails in his coffin.
Batman was a cute album Personally speaking all the albums where good up to TRC.....Then things took an odd turn..... It can be clearly understood just by view the numbers batman was the truning point. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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Christopher said: TonyVanDam said: Tell me the name of THAT one Prince album that (in your honest opinion) was a mistake....a disaster waiting to happen....a true WTF kind of a moment....Prince's first ever f*** up?!?
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Okay even though that I love ATWIAD now, I have to admit it was his first fuck up and I was thinking that too when I listened to ATWIAD the first time.
It was like I was watching Purple Rain and I love the soundtrack and the movie. At the time when I was getting into Prince in the 90s, I had his albums from For You until Purple Rain. So anyway I rent ATWIAD cassette from the library. I came home and listen to the first song,the title track. I was like what the fuck is this shit? As I was listening to the album I was so mad because it sound so different and weird. And when I listen to Parade I like hell to the naw. He had gone crazy here with the orchestra shit and elevator sounding music. And SOTT, I like oh well this album was better a little funkier and some rap in the mix too. But then the more listenings to those albums (ATWIAD and Parade), the more I came to love them. I even bought those two albums eventually as part of my collection and I started to appreciated Prince even more as an versalile artist and him took a huge move on ATWIAD. | |
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NDRU said: goosebumps said: To me the album is full of filler, but I do like The Future, Vicki Waiting and Electric Chair. It was such a disapointment after Lovesexy.I couldn't believe he was doing a soundtrack to a mainstream film. I'd rather he had done something else. But I do acknowledge the dark/light- Batman/Joker element he was trying too achieve like the Black Album/Lovesexy subject. It's ironic that Lovesexy was seen basically as a failure by everyone except the hardcore fans, when it's much more satisfying musically. Lovesexy was musically overproduced, without question. But I would never count it as a f*** up album by any means. Prince was looking for spiritual answers like any normal human being would do. BTW, I sometimes feel that Glam Slam is a powerful dance song! | |
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MickG said: It's the oppion of several majorities that Batman was among the first of several nails in his coffin.
If The Arms Of Orion was remove from the album & replace with 200 Balloons, Batman would have been perfect, IMO. | |
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vainandy said: "Around The World The Day" was his first fuck up. It's a great album but releasing it during that time was a real fuck up. "Parade" was his second and even worse fuck up. "Sign O The Times" was the third fuck up because it let people know that after three artsy/fartsy albums, Prince was not just going through a weird phase. Hardcore Prince was gone forever and artsy/fartsy Prince was here to stay. With each album, his original audience dropped off little by little and was replaced by a new audience.
as much as i hate your taste i so badly want to fuck your brains out. Space for sale... | |
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wonder505 said: purpledisc said: Morris added humour to Purple Rain - Grafitti Bridge made me cry - Mainly for the £10 quid I handed over for it I like your Avatar !!! Whoa, you paid way too much...and thanks! Too much for a DVD? I paid about £3 for the CD..... | |
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TonyVanDam said: Tell me the name of THAT one Prince album that (in your honest opinion) was a mistake....a disaster waiting to happen....a true WTF kind of a moment....Prince's first ever f*** up?!?
LOVESEXY??? | |
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I think that Lovesexy, ATWIAD and G. Bridge was a step in artisitic faith. I like all 3.
The F'd up one to me was Come, all got is 2 ![]() | |
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At the time i wasn't too thrilled with ATWIAD, but shortly after the album grew on me and now i consider it one of his classics. It was a totally different sound that i couldn't get used to or accept. I always thought of it as P's psychodelic era, but i can't really call it his first f-up. I'm sure he intentionally put out that record, to get as far away from the sound of PR. I know it was risky and a challenge. I do understand his
thirst for new sounds and creativity, and not to repeat ones self. The shocking part was leaving his signature sound from the previous albulms. Although he should've relased The Family's albulm as his own. For me his major f-up is the Come albulm. Space is in my opioion is the best tune from it. | |
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Interesting that so many here see something as a "fuck up" that I see as something that defines Prince and put him ahead of everyone else, namely ATWIAD right after Purple Rain. | |
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vainandy said: "Around The World The Day" was his first fuck up. It's a great album but releasing it during that time was a real fuck up. "Parade" was his second and even worse fuck up. "Sign O The Times" was the third fuck up because it let people know that after three artsy/fartsy albums, Prince was not just going through a weird phase. Hardcore Prince was gone forever and artsy/fartsy Prince was here to stay. With each album, his original audience dropped off little by little and was replaced by a new audience.
. . [Edited 8/10/06 6:51am] Thankfully Prince (almost) never showed this kind of musical intolerance. Thank God he understood the need to move on. | |
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without a shadow of a doubt
THE RAINBOW CHILDREN Good heavens what was he thinking????? 'Ive never been 1 2 hide my feelings, Baby, u blow my mind I painted your face upon my ceiling, I stare at it all the time...' http://www.myspace.com/welshmess | |
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ladygirl99 said:
So anyway I rent ATWIAD cassette from the library. I came home and listen to the first song,the title track. I was like what the fuck is this shit? As I was listening to the album I was so mad because it sound so different and weird. And when I listen to Parade I like hell to the naw. He had gone crazy here with the orchestra shit and elevator sounding music. And SOTT, I like oh well this album was better a little funkier and some rap in the mix too. But then the more listenings to those albums (ATWIAD and Parade), the more I came to love them. I am so glad to see someone else who isn't afraid their "Prince fan card" is going to be taken away if they are truthful about their reaction to these albums. That was my exact same reaction to all three of those albums when they were released. It didn't take long for me to like "Around The World In A Day", after all it is a good album, but I was anxious for the next album to hurry up and be released because Prince had ended a great party (no I was not looking for another "Purple Rain" party by the way). I was ready for him to get back to throwin' down, and I mean hard like he had been doing for years. I was ready for The Beatles to leave and Prince to come back. The next year I still didn't get Prince back. Instead, I got Lawrence Welk. I love your "hell to the naw" and "orchestra elevator shit" reaction to "Parade" because that was my reaction also. I was so pissed with "Parade", I had to stop my self from actually smashing it against the wall. I had the same reaction as you about "Sign O The Times" also. I thought it was better (although nothing near as good as pre-Purple Rain stuff) but it kept me from dropping Prince altogether. Looking back now, I like "Around The World In A Day" better than "Sign O The Times" but there are parts of "Parade" that I will always hate. To this day, I would never play a song like "Venus De Milo" or "Do U Lie" in front of anyone else unless we were going to make fun of the songs. . . [Edited 8/12/06 9:48am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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sosgemini said: vainandy said: "Around The World The Day" was his first fuck up. It's a great album but releasing it during that time was a real fuck up. "Parade" was his second and even worse fuck up. "Sign O The Times" was the third fuck up because it let people know that after three artsy/fartsy albums, Prince was not just going through a weird phase. Hardcore Prince was gone forever and artsy/fartsy Prince was here to stay. With each album, his original audience dropped off little by little and was replaced by a new audience.
as much as i hate your taste i so badly want to fuck your brains out. Come on. I'll give you a night to remember. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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calldapplwondery83 said: vainandy said: "Around The World The Day" was his first fuck up. It's a great album but releasing it during that time was a real fuck up. "Parade" was his second and even worse fuck up. "Sign O The Times" was the third fuck up because it let people know that after three artsy/fartsy albums, Prince was not just going through a weird phase. Hardcore Prince was gone forever and artsy/fartsy Prince was here to stay. With each album, his original audience dropped off little by little and was replaced by a new audience.
. . [Edited 8/10/06 6:51am] Thankfully Prince (almost) never showed this kind of musical intolerance. Thank God he understood the need to move on. That depends on how you see it. I don't see it as Prince moving on, I see it as him going backwards. He left the 1980s in 1985 and went back to the 1960s. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Purple Rain...
I know I'm gonna get crap on me b/c of this choice, but think about it rationally: 1) It is the most commercially successful album of his career, making him a mainstream artist for mass consumption. The casual Prince fan that may have liked a few songs bought into the PR media machine, and viewed him as the Jimi Hendrix progeny, ignoring the fact of the albums that came before were rooted in funk, which leads me to..... 2) I think 1999 was a much more funky album and had he continued on that course, he may have gone in a purely funk direction (pure conjecture). His fanbase was very eclectic by the time 1999 was released, having built it through For You (1978) until 1999 (1982). There were hints of experimentation (SOmething in the Water) of electro-funk stylings and he may have just charted that path. WHo knows? 2) Regardless of how innovative he may have wanted to become afterwards, his fansbase would be guilty of comparing everything that came after to that album to that album (me included) I love PR, but it opened up a pandora's box for the very conversation we are having now. Regardless of the genius that would appear on SOTT, ATWIAD, or TGE, he is a victim of his own genius. "Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish." | |
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Oops....Corrections ignoring the fact of the albums that came before were rooted in funk, which leads me to.....
He did have his hands in rock, pop, and funk at the time. his fanbase would be guilty of comparing everything that came after to that album to that album (me included)
The album I am referring to is PR. Sorry for the ambiguity. "Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish." | |
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It'd have to be Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic.
Up until that point, every album that was intended to be a hit had been, with the exception of The Gold Experience which was almost an intentional failure, like Prince giving the music world the finger and saying that he really didn't care about sales (yeah, right). All his daring album releases and moves were also intentional and if they failed commercially, then it was kind of expected by all concerned but at least his reputation as one of the most daring musicians was always intact. 1999 should have been his year in the public eye and he clearly thought so, creating an album which seemed to be aimed towards selling to the masses with guest stars and commercial sounding songs. But the music on that CD was like a collection of out-takes and the guest stars input made no improvements on the album whatsoever. Bad choice for a lead single (good song, but bad choice) and a messy track list with silences, embarrassing adverts for the NPGMC and what is probably the best song on the album appearing as a secret track. The first time, in my opinion, that an album flopped that Prince had expected to be a huge hit. | |
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I really can't think of one. Emancipation was a bit long, but I love the album! 'A pillow covered in all our tears' | |
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Actin all weird and refusin to do interviews and stuff. He should have been nicer to the time on that 1999 tour. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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