Its funny how you will still read in threads things like "use a producer" "work with such and such" "why doesnt he go back to", and it amazes me how many of us know nothing about Prince even after listening for 25+ years. Dont we realize he is never gonna do what "we" think he should do, I mean in the 80's would he work with Nile Rodgers, so why should he do something today with a pharrell or some other hip producer. I think the thing that has always drawn me too prince is that he really is in his own world, he does what he wants and when he wants, he has also managed to pretty much keep his personal life "personal".Look like it or not this is the ride people, we almost talk about Prince we are forced to listen to him and we are trying to escape. Im not saying we all have to like everything he does, opinions will vary obviously. But this far into the game i think we should understand what he is not gonna do and stop asking for it.

whilst his heart may be in the messages he putting across, its not in the actual delivery

purpledoveuk said:

right, cuz his mind is slowly rotting from living in an anti-natural toxic world, among other things...

when the mind isnt clear, the delivery isnt clear

sacredwarrior said:

and what exactly is your mind rotting from?

I finally got the whole "I wish he was like he was back in the day" thing the otherday.

I'd never thought it or understood it until I started to dig out soem of his older albums.

The enthusiasm,depth and fun on those albums is sadly lacking in todays offerings...and THATS what fans want him to do the same..not the same style.

Putting on some of his older stuff in the car (lets work, when u were mine, its gonna be a beautiful night,Lovesexy) it makes you want to scream out loud with the funk and holler along...teh newer stuff just feels so watered down...like hes going throught the motions because he's afraid to stop because he doesnt know any better.

Everybody is entitle dto thier opinion, he will always do what he wants and so he should...but for me, whilst his heart may be in the messages he putting across, its not in the actual delivery

BSK3601 said:

instigating flame wars again r we?

do u need to read the rules again.....

btw. we're not supposed to post OFF TOPIC STUFF... do u have anything to say about the actual topic? or an idea or view on any of the things said here without taking it a personal level of criticism?

its easy if u try

Actually I'm trying to be quite civil. My first instinct was to say, "Look @ this shit that this crazy so&so is rambling on about..." But I approached it differently. So again, I ask... What is your mind rotting from...since the overall theme of this topic is about being judgemental and acceptance... I'd like to know what makes you so much more righteous than Prince or the rest of us in this "anti-natural toxic" world live in.

Very eloquently written. You basically formed a judgement and casted a stone towards Prince because he sells his music, (which we buy and continue to buy so I guess you're more self-righteous than we are), takes pictures of himself and lives a luxurious lifestyle.

You have a right to you're opinion and make some pretty good points. However, you're OBSESSION with Prince is troublesome. Prince is not the only one selling his music and living this lifestyle. For some reason, you have targeted him and have become obsessed with a person and things that you have no control over.

One of my good friends, well she's not rich but she's sort of wealthy. I've seen her drop serious cash on handbags and shoes while my eyes are popping out of my head. But you know what. That is between her and God. I know her personally and she's a beautiful person inside out. Yes, she likes her material things, but she has this kill them with kindess attitude, she's not a mean person and always treats people respectfully. I've seen worse behavior come from people who claim to be saved or claim to be living this righteous life towards other. Heck, my own mentor who practically saved my life as a Big Sister, comes from a wealthy family, and that woman to me has the biggest heart in the world. But see, I can formulate that opinion because I actually know these people on a personal level. Hate to burst your bubble, but you don't know Prince, you've never met him. All you do is follow his name from website to website.

My point is, there are all types of people on all parts of the spectrum. Just because someone is rich does not make them evil. Just because someone is poor does not make them good. Just because someone chooses to live a modest lifestyle does not mean he is necessarily more pleasing to God over anyone else. As a matter of fact, you play a very dangerous game when you start being judge and jury, thinking your are more righteous than anyone else.

My grandmother always said---When the time comes, and we all reach those pearly gates for judgement, a whole lotta folks, especially those who swear by the Truth, are going to be VERY surprised as to who gets in, and who gets turned away.

You need worry about yourself and continue to live in your New World. You are not God and you need to leave it up to God to judge.

P.S. What's going on in the world does have a lot to do with control over money, but it also has a lot to do with hate. People who become OBSESSED with hating those who do not live as they do, or who are not like them.

Just a thought.
[Edited 8/6/06 9:50am]

BSK3601 said:

mm i had a hunch u might've been, forgive me if i dont trust ur intentions

my mind isnt rotting fromanything because it is has been crytalised which means all the neurons which are supposed to be connected.. are.

in most humans, only one ninth of the brain functions... primarily because of toxic environments, toxic media, fear-based childhoods, bad diet and the public school system ( there are many other reasons but these are the main ones )

i used to be like that til ( insert private event here ) happened and my brain was rewired, but all that involved adjusting my lifestyle to one that is in harmony with nature...and the study of what is known as 'cubical wavefield thought' where there is only one long NOW moment and everything that ever happend or ever will happen is all happening RIGHT NOW. ( you can research this stuff on the net but its a real mind bender and can hurt if ur not careful so be careful )

'righteousness' is not the term i would use, but i understand the context you have used it in. its more about already living in the new world and watching people who arent. now that aint a criticism, its an observation. everyone is at different levels of spiritual growth, or if you feel more comfortable to call it 'evolution' then that term will do as well.

what makes me more 'righteous' than Prince and anyone else living in his anti-natural toxic world, is that i dont live in it - because its primitive, ego based, commercially oriented, and completely laden with chemical excitation - aka..the world of sin. there are natural chemicals and there are man-made chemicals. Prince's world is built on man-made chemicals. its in his skin, in his clothes, in his home, probably in his make-up im not sure on that cuz he could use natural stuff, in his food ( unless he eats organic ), and all throughout his mind, because his brain hasnt been rewired to think the way it is supposed to, the way all human minds are supposed to think. this aint no random game of 'oh well people are whoever they are in this life so lets just do what we want cuz we're gunna die anyway''. this is serious shit.

the other area of toxicity that Prince is stuck in ( well its voluntary but..) is commercial media. plastic faces plastic looks plastic clothes plastic plastic vanity vanity..... quite simply. its all false. none of it is real. its a mask they all wear because they think they have to or sumthin, conditioned to believe in that way of presenting oneself to the world. its fake plain and simple. anti-natural. also his fascination with nightclubs which are technically dens of artifical light, is anti-natural as well, because only the Sun is real, it is the only source of real light on this planet and anything less is a mere substitute that usually kills. Sunlight is Natural Light. It cures all ills, if you know how to take it in correctly.

[b]so basically when u get someone who has lived a highly toxic life ina highly toxic environment ina highly toxic media with a highly toxic over-inflated opinion of themselves talking about GOD..... then u know they got a screw loose somewhere. cuz none of that is GOD. cuz none of it is natural.

another reason why i'm ' more righteous' ( as u put it ) than Prince, is because i dont practice 'Spiritual Wickedness in High Places'. Now that aint an accusation. I aint sayin he knows he does it, but he does. Making millions of dollars offa singing about God and making people believe that because of the way you look in a plastic photo and the way you play all those different instruments and the way you're prolific as a musician and the way your heart is so wide open and supposedly pure.....making millions of dollars offa all that stuff God Gives you, and sitting in Hollywood mansions which are by design ANTI-CHRISTIC because of the idea behind the reason they were even built, talking Holy Stuff in those mansions, coaxing young ladies into those mansions, coaxing young female artists into the same toxic world and telling them its because ' God has given you a Gift. This is ur destiny. I can make you a star '....that just aint right. Its an erroneous perspective and nothing short of arrogant in God's Face to presume to keep doing it past the point when you KNOW it aint right.....cuz it aint natural.

we weren't put here to see who can be the biggest brighest shining star in the mass media. its a man-made institution that has blinded and brainwashed millions of people for decades, teaching false lifestyles, toxic lifestyles, lifestyles of the 'rich and famous', which are.....unfortunately pointless. in the over all picture... pointless. it leads nowhere. to nowhere of any real value in terms of why we are here and what we are here to learn and understand success to Really Mean.

that entire world of toxic chemial excitation out there is crumbling. have a look at the current world leaders who are trying desperately to keep it in place with war and terror. they are desperate beyond measure to keep people enslved to a false reality, che ching. $$$$. money aint god never was never will be. rich and famous? i dont care cuz that dont mean shit to me and dont mean shit when u stand on themoon and look at the earth, or when u look at starving children crying because they havent eaten hardly anything in years and are infected with aids, or when you look at pictures of children with their limbs torn off from bombs. rich and famous? toxic plasyic world of meaningless crap? please. dont interrupt me... cuz all these rich and famous types wouldnt believe how transparent they are to all the many many people in this world who woke up ages ago.....unfortunately, they are pitied, and guys like Prince are pitied, because he has so much talent, and fucks himself over mentally by continuing to feed a world of mental, spiritual, emotional, physical, media toxic chemical warfare.

his brain is shutting down and will continue to if he doesnt bail the fuck out of there.....fast.


please note: im not hating on him. just stating facts, cuz whether im entitled to or not, i care about where he's headed, and im fully aware, that not every man's destiny is the same.

with L.O.V.E.
Penelope[/b]

Very eloquently written. You basically formed a judgement and casted a stone towards Prince because he sells his music, (which we buy and continue to buy so I guess you're more self-righteous than we are), takes pictures of himself and lives a luxurious lifestyle.

You have a right to you're opinion and make some pretty good points. However, you're OBSESSION with Prince is troublesome. Prince is not the only one selling his music and living this lifestyle. For some reason, you have targeted him and have become obsessed with a person and things that you have no control over.

One of my good friends, well she's not rich but she's sort of wealthy. I've seen her drop serious cash on handbags and shoes while my eyes are popping out of my head. But you know what. That is between her and God. I know her personally and she's a beautiful person inside out. Yes, she likes her material things, but she has this kill them with kindess attitude, she's not a mean person and always treats people respectfully. I've seen worse behavior come from people who claim to be saved or claim to be living this righteous life towards other. Heck, my own mentor who practically saved my life as a Big Sister, comes from a wealthy family, and that woman to me has the biggest heart in the world. But see, I can formulate that opinion because I actually know these people on a personal level. Hate to burst your bubble, but you don't know Prince, you've never met him. All you do is follow his name from website to website.

My point is, there are all types of people on all parts of the spectrum. Just because someone is rich does not make them evil. Just because someone is poor does not make them good. Just because someone chooses to live a modest lifestyle does not mean he is necessarily more pleasing to God over anyone else. As a matter of fact, you play a very dangerous game when you start being judge and jury, thinking your are more righteous than anyone else.

My grandmother always said---When the time comes, and we all reach those pearly gates for judgement, a whole lotta folks, especially those who swear by the Truth, are going to be VERY surprised as to who gets in, and who gets turned away.

You need worry about yourself and continue to live in your New World. You are not God and you need to leave it up to God to judge.

P.S. What's going on in the world does have a lot to do with control over money, but it also has a lot to do with hate. People who become OBSESSED with hating those who do not live as they do, or who are not like them.

Just a thought.
[Edited 8/6/06 9:50am]

purpledoveuk said:

I agree with what you are saying. Do I think his recents albums have the same fire as the older ones, hell no! But I think the author of the thread is saying that at this point after so many years, to continuously dwell on being dissapointed, and yearning for a return to the past is useless, and personally, if people feel that bad about it, just keep listening to the old stuff and move on.
[Edited 8/5/06 19:06pm]

Very eloquently written. You basically formed a judgement and casted a stone towards Prince because he sells his music, (which we buy and continue to buy so I guess you're more self-righteous than we are), takes pictures of himself and lives a luxurious lifestyle.

You have a right to you're opinion and make some pretty good points. However, you're OBSESSION with Prince is troublesome. Prince is not the only one selling his music and living this lifestyle. For some reason, you have targeted him and have become obsessed with a person and things that you have no control over.

One of my good friends, well she's not rich but she's sort of wealthy. I've seen her drop serious cash on handbags and shoes while my eyes are popping out of my head. But you know what. That is between her and God. I know her personally and she's a beautiful person inside out. Yes, she likes her material things, but she has this kill them with kindess attitude, she's not a mean person and always treats people respectfully. I've seen worse behavior come from people who claim to be saved or claim to be living this righteous life towards other. Heck, my own mentor who practically saved my life as a Big Sister, comes from a wealthy family, and that woman to me has the biggest heart in the world. But see, I can formulate that opinion because I actually know these people on a personal level. Hate to burst your bubble, but you don't know Prince, you've never met him. All you do is follow his name from website to website.

My point is, there are all types of people on all parts of the spectrum. Just because someone is rich does not make them evil. Just because someone is poor does not make them good. Just because someone chooses to live a modest lifestyle does not mean he is necessarily more pleasing to God over anyone else. As a matter of fact, you play a very dangerous game when you start being judge and jury, thinking your are more righteous than anyone else.

My grandmother always said---When the time comes, and we all reach those pearly gates for judgement, a whole lotta folks, especially those who swear by the Truth, are going to be VERY surprised as to who gets in, and who gets turned away.

You need worry about yourself and continue to live in your New World. You are not God and you need to leave it up to God to judge.

P.S. What's going on in the world does have a lot to do with control over money, but it also has a lot to do with hate. People who become OBSESSED with hating those who do not live as they do, or who are not like them.

Just a thought.
[Edited 8/6/06 9:50am]

you're OBSESSION with Prince is troublesome.


you need to leave it up to God to judge.


Hate to burst your bubble, but you don't know Prince,


you play a very dangerous game when you start being judge and jury,

Its funny how you will still read in threads things like "use a producer" "work with such and such" "why doesnt he go back to", and it amazes me how many of us know nothing about Prince even after listening for 25+ years. Dont we realize he is never gonna do what "we" think he should do, I mean in the 80's would he work with Nile Rodgers, so why should he do something today with a pharrell or some other hip producer. I think the thing that has always drawn me too prince is that he really is in his own world, he does what he wants and when he wants, he has also managed to pretty much keep his personal life "personal".Look like it or not this is the ride people, we almost talk about Prince we are forced to listen to him and we are trying to escape. Im not saying we all have to like everything he does, opinions will vary obviously. But this far into the game i think we should understand what he is not gonna do and stop asking for it.

BSK3601 said:

mm i had a hunch u might've been, forgive me if i dont trust ur intentions

my mind isnt rotting fromanything because it is has been crytalised which means all the neurons which are supposed to be connected.. are.

in most humans, only one ninth of the brain functions... primarily because of toxic environments, toxic media, fear-based childhoods, bad diet and the public school system ( there are many other reasons but these are the main ones )

i used to be like that til ( insert private event here ) happened and my brain was rewired, but all that involved adjusting my lifestyle to one that is in harmony with nature...and the study of what is known as 'cubical wavefield thought' where there is only one long NOW moment and everything that ever happend or ever will happen is all happening RIGHT NOW. ( you can research this stuff on the net but its a real mind bender and can hurt if ur not careful so be careful )

'righteousness' is not the term i would use, but i understand the context you have used it in. its more about already living in the new world and watching people who arent. now that aint a criticism, its an observation. everyone is at different levels of spiritual growth, or if you feel more comfortable to call it 'evolution' then that term will do as well.

what makes me more 'righteous' than Prince and anyone else living in his anti-natural toxic world, is that i dont live in it - because its primitive, ego based, commercially oriented, and completely laden with chemical excitation - aka..the world of sin. there are natural chemicals and there are man-made chemicals. Prince's world is built on man-made chemicals. its in his skin, in his clothes, in his home, probably in his make-up im not sure on that cuz he could use natural stuff, in his food ( unless he eats organic ), and all throughout his mind, because his brain hasnt been rewired to think the way it is supposed to, the way all human minds are supposed to think. this aint no random game of 'oh well people are whoever they are in this life so lets just do what we want cuz we're gunna die anyway''. this is serious shit.

the other area of toxicity that Prince is stuck in ( well its voluntary but..) is commercial media. plastic faces plastic looks plastic clothes plastic plastic vanity vanity..... quite simply. its all false. none of it is real. its a mask they all wear because they think they have to or sumthin, conditioned to believe in that way of presenting oneself to the world. its fake plain and simple. anti-natural. also his fascination with nightclubs which are technically dens of artifical light, is anti-natural as well, because only the Sun is real, it is the only source of real light on this planet and anything less is a mere substitute that usually kills. Sunlight is Natural Light. It cures all ills, if you know how to take it in correctly.

so basically when u get someone who has lived a highly toxic life ina highly toxic environment ina highly toxic media with a highly toxic over-inflated opinion of themselves talking about GOD..... then u know they got a screw loose somewhere. cuz none of that is GOD. cuz none of it is natural.

another reason why i'm ' more righteous' ( as u put it ) than Prince, is because i dont practice 'Spiritual Wickedness in High Places'. Now that aint an accusation. I aint sayin he knows he does it, but he does. Making millions of dollars offa singing about God and making people believe that because of the way you look in a plastic photo and the way you play all those different instruments and the way you're prolific as a musician and the way your heart is so wide open and supposedly pure.....making millions of dollars offa all that stuff God Gives you, and sitting in Hollywood mansions which are by design ANTI-CHRISTIC because of the idea behind the reason they were even built, talking Holy Stuff in those mansions, coaxing young ladies into those mansions, coaxing young female artists into the same toxic world and telling them its because ' God has given you a Gift. This is ur destiny. I can make you a star '....that just aint right. Its an erroneous perspective and nothing short of arrogant in God's Face to presume to keep doing it past the point when you KNOW it aint right.....cuz it aint natural.

we weren't put here to see who can be the biggest brighest shining star in the mass media. its a man-made institution that has blinded and brainwashed millions of people for decades, teaching false lifestyles, toxic lifestyles, lifestyles of the 'rich and famous', which are.....unfortunately pointless. in the over all picture... pointless. it leads nowhere. to nowhere of any real value in terms of why we are here and what we are here to learn and understand success to Really Mean.

that entire world of toxic chemial excitation out there is crumbling. have a look at the current world leaders who are trying desperately to keep it in place with war and terror. they are desperate beyond measure to keep people enslved to a false reality, che ching. $$$$. money aint god never was never will be. rich and famous? i dont care cuz that dont mean shit to me and dont mean shit when u stand on themoon and look at the earth, or when u look at starving children crying because they havent eaten hardly anything in years and are infected with aids, or when you look at pictures of children with their limbs torn off from bombs. rich and famous? toxic plasyic world of meaningless crap? please. dont interrupt me... cuz all these rich and famous types wouldnt believe how transparent they are to all the many many people in this world who woke up ages ago.....unfortunately, they are pitied, and guys like Prince are pitied, because he has so much talent, and fucks himself over mentally by continuing to feed a world of mental, spiritual, emotional, physical, media toxic chemical warfare.

his brain is shutting down and will continue to if he doesnt bail the fuck out of there.....fast.


please note: im not hating on him. just stating facts, cuz whether im entitled to or not, i care about where he's headed, and im fully aware, that not every man's destiny is the same.

with L.O.V.E.
Penelope

Its funny how you will still read in threads things like "use a producer" "work with such and such" "why doesnt he go back to", and it amazes me how many of us know nothing about Prince even after listening for 25+ years. Dont we realize he is never gonna do what "we" think he should do, I mean in the 80's would he work with Nile Rodgers, so why should he do something today with a pharrell or some other hip producer. I think the thing that has always drawn me too prince is that he really is in his own world, he does what he wants and when he wants, he has also managed to pretty much keep his personal life "personal".Look like it or not this is the ride people, we almost talk about Prince we are forced to listen to him and we are trying to escape. Im not saying we all have to like everything he does, opinions will vary obviously. But this far into the game i think we should understand what he is not gonna do and stop asking for it.

what about the radiation emanating from your computer screen on a daily basis, darling?