But you know what jone70,no matter what happens, if a concert happens whether it's a tour or small venue, me and my other friends that are Prince fans will be there to show support, you can bet on that. If Tamar is part of the performance, we will be there to show support for her too. I see no reason why she should be a victim in all this, no matter what rumors end up being true. After all it's all about the music anyway, not their personal life and what they do with it.

i read about it also so u DOnt think it was Mayet they say if Your Overies are not Working or u dont have any cant have a child or just doesnt come out right . she was with Tommy and was pergo then i think she lost the Baby then also not sure but that what i heard i think she seems like theres no Pergo Belly in these pictures. and it dont amtter if ur Healthy u have to have working Overies *Sigh* yes i have a Mag. with prince in Mayet in it Talked of this with the baby in thing was veyr sad

I do! Why do I suddenly feel old(er)? Thanks alot Calhoun!

it just seems in general that the life and image that prince has been building since the late '90s is slowly dismantling, or else transitioning into some new life/career phase. his marriage, his "virtual" relationship with his fans, his religious zeal - all these things that he seemed to want his audience to think were so permanent, they all seem to be dismantling. i think we've seen the dismantling process over the past couple of years, but for the most part, the transition is "official" now with the closing of the club and the divorce.

the vibe i'm getting is that whatever he was building over the last decade or so has come to a point where it isn't working for him anymore, but at the same time, it seems like he doesn't know what to replace it with. he seems to be swimming around in the murk, coasting by on his celebrity and his legend, feeding the fans some crumbs here and there with a club show or an awards show afterparty. maybe he's just letting himself have fun with his celebrity for a while, no crime against that.

his religious commitment seems really murky right now...as always, he seems to be testing the boundaries of what's acceptable without actually diving into the potty-mouthed past...playing a few bars of "erotic city" here, traipsing around with beautiful young women there...it must be difficult to feel accepted by a religious community as someone more than just a celebrity, but at some point feel yourself straying from their expectations...i could see how things could get nebulous after a while.

anyway. i hope he figures out what his whole deal is about eventually, even if it means taking some time off to clear his head. we have enough music to tide
us over for a while, and we'll always be ready for what's next. i hope he takes the introspective route with his music again like he did in the early part of this decade. i may not count those albums as among my favorites, but i do think work like "n.e.w.s", "one nite alone" and "the rainbow children" has been some of his most honest work of his career, and i'd love to see that part of him evolve.

whatever it takes to get the ya-ya's out of his system, i hope he does it full-on. he seems the most alive when he's immersed in a kajillion different projects and when he's in some way plugged-in with his fans and his peers, whether its on tour or at a celebration at paisley or even online. i hope he gets back to that place.

So, have y'all listened to Tamar's "Sunday in the Park"?
The song seems to be about being in love and in a clandestine relationship with someone...it starts out:

"I didn't want to meet you here
This feels so wrong
We shouldn't have to live in fear
My dear
I shouldn't have to feel the need to sing this song.
I didn't want to take that chance,
But I can't decide
And if this is a real romance
At last
Why do we still feel the need to run and hide?"

blah blah blah

"I didn't want to cause her pain,
She must feel
So bad
And yet still I'm not ashamed
The game of love cannot be won
With something she never had" (whatever THAT means)

And then some crap about taking the fruit of her tree and it being better they not deceive and Sunday in the park and something about Anbesol member one too many


Sounds kind of incriminating....
but that could just be me.

if anyone can prove to me without a shadow of a doubt that a romantic/sexual relationship with tamar was the reason for the divorce, i will film myself eating ten uncooked pieces of long spaghetti and/or a dill pickle (i LOATHE pickles), and post the footage on www.cryingwhileeating.com

So, have y'all listened to Tamar's "Sunday in the Park"?
The song seems to be about being in love and in a clandestine relationship with someone...it starts out:

"I didn't want to meet you here
This feels so wrong
We shouldn't have to live in fear
My dear
I shouldn't have to feel the need to sing this song.
I didn't want to take that chance,
But I can't decide
And if this is a real romance
At last
Why do we still feel the need to run and hide?"

blah blah blah

"I didn't want to cause her pain,
She must feel
So bad
And yet still I'm not ashamed
The game of love cannot be won
With something she never had" (whatever THAT means)

[Edited 7/31/06 6:21am]

if anyone can prove to me without a shadow of a doubt that a romantic/sexual relationship with tamar was the reason for the divorce, i will film myself eating ten uncooked pieces of long spaghetti and/or a dill pickle (i LOATHE pickles), and post the footage on [/b]www.cryingwhileeating.com[/b]

Yes, I'll be there too--but if it comes out that Tamar & him were hitting it I will lose respect for both of them and it will be especially difficult for me to support Tamar. Before anyone jumps down my throat about how Prince has always been a philander or that it takes two to tango, allow me to explain:

I know Prince's philanderer history and how many it takes to tango, but the bottom line is that I have absolutely no respect for anyone that fools around with someone they KNOW is married. Even IF Prince stepped to her first, she should have enough decency and respect to not become "the other woman" and decline his advances. (Same goes for guys who get involved with married women.)

I am just stating how I would feel about the whole thing IF that was in fact the case.

At this point, I'm giving Prince & Tamar the benefit of the doubt and trying not to jump to conclusions.

You know, there is no way I am going to lose respect for either of them. First of all no one knows the facts, it's all rumors. Once the divorce is finalized if Prince and Tamar do end up together, that's their business. We're fans because of the music, or so I thought. Just because we're fans doesn't buy us a ticket to an artist's personal life. Who are we to judge and select? We don't know what caused the circumstances for the divorce, that's between Prince and Mani. If they wanted us to know, they would have put cameras in their home so we could all have a sneak peek into their bedroom for that matter. Regardless of our own personal beliefs, reasons for their divorce is between them. Who Prince is seeing after that is his business.

When a couple is going through a divorce especially celebrities/artists/musicians, etc. the rumors can become outrageous. It's almost like the media can say anything and the public believes it, because most of the public loves focusing on the negative and the media knows it.

I think it's ridiculous that some fans are talking about "losing respect" because of these rumors. If you're a Prince fan, and if you became a fan because of the music then let it be just that. He never gave us an invitation into his personal life as he was never one to broadcast and talk about it. It's just nosy fans who are obsessed with trying to find out every little thing about him they can get their hands on.

Now as far as how the women he dates/marries looks, that's not our decision to make and it's not up to us to choose the women for him to fall in love with. Besides I don't think he cares what people say about who he ends up with because he doesn't have to prove that part of his life to me, you or anyone else and he knows it.

So people could make as many insults as they want regarding who he is seen with or falls in love with, as it's his life and not ours. Going through a divorce is hard enough and just because it's Prince doesn't mean he's not human like the rest of us.

It's about his music, he never gave us a key to his personal life just because we're fans .
[Edited 7/30/06 21:10pm]