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Reply #90 posted 07/30/06 4:29pm

wonder505

silverandgold said:[quote]

jone70 said:




But you know what jone70,no matter what happens, if a concert happens whether it's a tour or small venue, me and my other friends that are Prince fans will be there to show support, you can bet on that. If Tamar is part of the performance, we will be there to show support for her too. I see no reason why she should be a victim in all this, no matter what rumors end up being true. After all it's all about the music anyway, not their personal life and what they do with it.



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Reply #91 posted 07/30/06 4:29pm

TotalAlisa

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1FRO said:

CalhounSq said:

So he wants them all to develop a drug habit that keeps them together?? omfg That's a long way to go (DOWN) for a marriage to survive disbelief


A much better example of a couple who's got it together would have been Ashford and Simpson.

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Reply #92 posted 07/30/06 4:34pm

silverandgold

wonder505 said:[quote]

silverandgold said:

jone70 said:




But you know what jone70,no matter what happens, if a concert happens whether it's a tour or small venue, me and my other friends that are Prince fans will be there to show support, you can bet on that. If Tamar is part of the performance, we will be there to show support for her too. I see no reason why she should be a victim in all this, no matter what rumors end up being true. After all it's all about the music anyway, not their personal life and what they do with it.



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Thanks, I appreciate that wonder505, because truth is, we're Prince fans because of the music not who he marries, divorce or falls in love with.

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"Stay strong Prince, because it's all about your music, that's why we love you!"

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[Edited 7/30/06 20:33pm]
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Reply #93 posted 07/30/06 4:34pm

TotalAlisa

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i dont think his wife is that pretty....
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Reply #94 posted 07/30/06 4:35pm

incognito

IdeaLady said:

sad

It's difficult to stay "LOYAL" 2 one person nowdays ( No Matter how much U Luv that person) with all the temptations stuck in our faces every day.Prince is Human...And so is Mani.!!!..I would have some MAJOR problems myself if my "MAN" spent most of his waking hours with other women,4 any reason.. Lovely or Not..
It takes someone very strong 2 make it work...

I do wish them BOTH happiness in what ever path they follow.


It's not difficult to stay loyal. I'm loyal to a fault because I chose to be a giver this lifetime. My word is my honor.

It takes two to make it work is right. Let's look at Kate Hudson, she said in an interview that her husbands female friends are at the house all the time, walking around topless. That's them and she is use to that from being married to a rocker (Chris Robinson). That's a deep relationship they have so I guess they are strong.

Major Temptation? It's like I tell guys when I walk past them and they've just checked a female out walking in front of me. "It's just a female. Stop acting like you never saw one before." If a man is fascinated by the female body, he has the mind of a 10-year-old. It's the personality and character of humans that drive relationships. It's the spiritual connection that keeps them going until the learning experience is over.
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Reply #95 posted 07/30/06 4:38pm

mschirmer

I can't see Prince being a good man when it comes to taking care of a woman. He seems seriously retarded when it comes to his ego. I've heard that he treats women like objects or trophys instead of human. So, naturally it's not going to take long for the better half to get sick and tired of the bullshit. He's Prince, not God and clearly the fact that he isn't in control shines brightly with Manuela's filing. You go girl!
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Reply #96 posted 07/30/06 4:52pm

1FRO

Not to be mean or offend, but anyone who even considers becoming involved with someone of status like Prince should weigh the cost. Manuela was a fan. I'm sure she heard all about his womanizing (true or not). She even had first hand knowledge of his dealings with women especially if she was seeing him while he was still married to Mayte. With a track record of "womanizing" how could any woman think she has the power to change that?
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Reply #97 posted 07/30/06 4:54pm

MRDREAMFACTORY

I did'nt even know he was geting divorsed.hes better single anyways.saying prince is a husband dont sound right anyways.Id guess it was because he puts to much into his work.hes not got time for a good relationship.
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Reply #98 posted 07/30/06 4:58pm

MRDREAMFACTORY

mschirmer said:

I can't see Prince being a good man when it comes to taking care of a woman. He seems seriously retarded when it comes to his ego. I've heard that he treats women like objects or trophys instead of human. So, naturally it's not going to take long for the better half to get sick and tired of the bullshit. He's Prince, not God and clearly the fact that he isn't in control shines brightly with Manuela's filing. You go girl!
you know you have to be a women to type this.U go prince.prince don't need a dirty azz women holding him down or back from what we & he needs,MUSIC! baby.To hell with women.
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Reply #99 posted 07/30/06 4:59pm

MRDREAMFACTORY

TotalAlisa said:

i dont think his wife is that pretty....
I dont either.it must of been love cause it could not of been looks.
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Reply #100 posted 07/30/06 5:03pm

Anx

bkw said:

Illustrator said:

but the over-all consensus seems to be that the main reason they split was because the needs of the one outwieghed the needs of the Mani.

falloff


BOOO!!! lol
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Reply #101 posted 07/30/06 5:29pm

redflag

silverandgold said:

As far as Tamar's being signed to Universal, didn't part of Universal break up in different divisions earlier this year?


Yes, but that had nothing to do with the current shelving of the album by Universal (according to T17), as she was supposed to come out on the Universal Republic half along with Prince (as opposed to the other half Universal Motown).
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Reply #102 posted 07/30/06 5:30pm

jone70

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silverandgold said:

But you know what jone70,no matter what happens, if a concert happens whether it's a tour or small venue, me and my other friends that are Prince fans will be there to show support, you can bet on that. If Tamar is part of the performance, we will be there to show support for her too. I see no reason why she should be a victim in all this, no matter what rumors end up being true. After all it's all about the music anyway, not their personal life and what they do with it.


Yes, I'll be there too--but if it comes out that Tamar & him were hitting it I will lose respect for both of them and it will be especially difficult for me to support Tamar. Before anyone jumps down my throat about how Prince has always been a philander or that it takes two to tango, allow me to explain:

I know Prince's philanderer history and how many it takes to tango, but the bottom line is that I have absolutely no respect for anyone that fools around with someone they KNOW is married. Even IF Prince stepped to her first, she should have enough decency and respect to not become "the other woman" and decline his advances. (Same goes for guys who get involved with married women.)

I am just stating how I would feel about the whole thing IF that was in fact the case.

At this point, I'm giving Prince & Tamar the benefit of the doubt and trying not to jump to conclusions.
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #103 posted 07/30/06 5:32pm

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Tamar first appeared with P publicly at the NAACP Image Award Show, which was taped March 19, 2005. So, she had probably been on the scene at least several weeks before that performance, giving her and the new band enough time to rehearse. Plus, the 3121 parties date back to at least 1/20/05 and as far as I know, she was a performer at those parties.

http://www.housequake.com...%20parties


doh! You're right! I knew she was at the NAACP performance but I completely forgot.
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #104 posted 07/30/06 6:01pm

IdeaLady

biggrin biggrin biggrin

Prince's creative writing comes from the things that R going on in his life at the moment...

In February he knocked everyone dead when He sprang "FURY" on us on SNL..

A Happily Married Man doesn't write lyrics like that...BUT it sounded sooooo good.Probably not 2 Mani tho. sad

Everyone is talking about Tamar...Where R the "Twins" ???? I think they R
the HOTT ones.. wink
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Reply #105 posted 07/30/06 6:26pm

KelleyG

1FRO said:

Not to be mean or offend, but anyone who even considers becoming involved with someone of status like Prince should weigh the cost. Manuela was a fan. I'm sure she heard all about his womanizing (true or not). She even had first hand knowledge of his dealings with women especially if she was seeing him while he was still married to Mayte. With a track record of "womanizing" how could any woman think she has the power to change that?



eek
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Reply #106 posted 07/30/06 6:38pm

sacredwarrior

KelleyG said:

1FRO said:

Not to be mean or offend, but anyone who even considers becoming involved with someone of status like Prince should weigh the cost. Manuela was a fan. I'm sure she heard all about his womanizing (true or not). She even had first hand knowledge of his dealings with women especially if she was seeing him while he was still married to Mayte. With a track record of "womanizing" how could any woman think she has the power to change that?



Don't U remember how Manu thought she was better than everyone and could look down on them and exclude them? that's how beautiful Manu is eek


thumbs up!

not being mean just supporting a truth biggrin

about the only time i agree with views of 'eve' being 'evil' is when i encounter women like this ... slippery mani-pulative control-freak lizards ( the word lizard refers to a study done on the human psyche . not name-calling ) ... as soon as they arent in control anymore... they start foaming at the mouth...or at the front gate... cuz their game is up. then they move on to other situations and people to control. if they're really condescending, they'll choose charity work, cuz it makes em look good. vanity vanity all is vanity...etc.. sorry just, sometimes its gotta be said.

NB: i aint sayin this to be mean or rude or anything, i have known many women like this, and this should be a good example of what not to do with a man whom ur supposed to love for who he is, for any girl/woman out there... dont play nasty little games to keep your man. 4 real. peace and love. heart

lastly... p fan says " wow mani ur hair is really beautiful tonite "

mani said " aw gee thanks! its like ur my very own fan!! " neutral

i wish her well really i do. may God Bless and guide her to greener pastures. p.x
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
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Reply #107 posted 07/30/06 6:40pm

LeGrindLady

KelleyG said:

1FRO said:

Not to be mean or offend, but anyone who even considers becoming involved with someone of status like Prince should weigh the cost. Manuela was a fan. I'm sure she heard all about his womanizing (true or not). She even had first hand knowledge of his dealings with women especially if she was seeing him while he was still married to Mayte. With a track record of "womanizing" how could any woman think she has the power to change that?



Don't U remember how Manu thought she was better than everyone and could look down on them and exclude them? that's how beautiful Manu is eek



Puhleezze!!! Mani looks like a twig on a tree....if Prince has to be with anyone, why not Tamar? He did say on one of his show I went to in feb. Sex with Chocolate
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Reply #108 posted 07/30/06 6:41pm

TheCountessOfR
ochester

incognito said:

IdeaLady said:

sad

It's difficult to stay "LOYAL" 2 one person nowdays ( No Matter how much U Luv that person) with all the temptations stuck in our faces every day.Prince is Human...And so is Mani.!!!..I would have some MAJOR problems myself if my "MAN" spent most of his waking hours with other women,4 any reason.. Lovely or Not..
It takes someone very strong 2 make it work...

I do wish them BOTH happiness in what ever path they follow.


It's not difficult to stay loyal. I'm loyal to a fault because I chose to be a giver this lifetime. My word is my honor.

It takes two to make it work is right. Let's look at Kate Hudson, she said in an interview that her husbands female friends are at the house all the time, walking around topless. That's them and she is use to that from being married to a rocker (Chris Robinson). That's a deep relationship they have so I guess they are strong.

Major Temptation? It's like I tell guys when I walk past them and they've just checked a female out walking in front of me. "It's just a female. Stop acting like you never saw one before." If a man is fascinated by the female body, he has the mind of a 10-year-old. It's the personality and character of humans that drive relationships. It's the spiritual connection that keeps them going until the learning experience is over.


i agree with your post, incognito.

being faithful isn't hard at all for me either.

don't ever want something (or somebody) so bad that you can't walk away from it (or them)
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Reply #109 posted 07/30/06 6:41pm

LeGrindLady

PurpleCharm said:

Anx said:

it just seems in general that the life and image that prince has been building since the late '90s is slowly dismantling, or else transitioning into some new life/career phase. his marriage, his "virtual" relationship with his fans, his religious zeal - all these things that he seemed to want his audience to think were so permanent, they all seem to be dismantling. i think we've seen the dismantling process over the past couple of years, but for the most part, the transition is "official" now with the closing of the club and the divorce.

the vibe i'm getting is that whatever he was building over the last decade or so has come to a point where it isn't working for him anymore, but at the same time, it seems like he doesn't know what to replace it with. he seems to be swimming around in the murk, coasting by on his celebrity and his legend, feeding the fans some crumbs here and there with a club show or an awards show afterparty. maybe he's just letting himself have fun with his celebrity for a while, no crime against that.

his religious commitment seems really murky right now...as always, he seems to be testing the boundaries of what's acceptable without actually diving into the potty-mouthed past...playing a few bars of "erotic city" here, traipsing around with beautiful young women there...it must be difficult to feel accepted by a religious community as someone more than just a celebrity, but at some point feel yourself straying from their expectations...i could see how things could get nebulous after a while.

anyway. i hope he figures out what his whole deal is about eventually, even if it means taking some time off to clear his head. we have enough music to tide us over for a while, and we'll always be ready for what's next. i hope he takes the introspective route with his music again like he did in the early part of this decade. i may not count those albums as among my favorites, but i do think work like "n.e.w.s", "one nite alone" and "the rainbow children" has been some of his most honest work of his career, and i'd love to see that part of him evolve.

whatever it takes to get the ya-ya's out of his system, i hope he does it full-on. he seems the most alive when he's immersed in a kajillion different projects and when he's in some way plugged-in with his fans and his peers, whether its on tour or at a celebration at paisley or even online. i hope he gets back to that place.


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Sounds like a mid-life crisis to me!
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Reply #110 posted 07/30/06 6:47pm

LeGrindLady

TrippinondaFunk said:

So, have y'all listened to Tamar's "Sunday in the Park"?
The song seems to be about being in love and in a clandestine relationship with someone...it starts out:

"I didn't want to meet you here
This feels so wrong
We shouldn't have to live in fear
My dear
I shouldn't have to feel the need to sing this song.
I didn't want to take that chance,
But I can't decide
And if this is a real romance
At last
Why do we still feel the need to run and hide?"

blah blah blah

"I didn't want to cause her pain,
She must feel
So bad
And yet still I'm not ashamed
The game of love cannot be won
With something she never had" (whatever THAT means)

And then some crap about taking the fruit of her tree and it being better they not deceive and Sunday in the park and something about Anbesol member one too many
lol

Sounds kind of incriminating....
but that could just be me.
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Reply #111 posted 07/30/06 6:49pm

sacredwarrior

the vibe i'm getting is that whatever he was building over the last decade or so has come to a point where it isn't working for him anymore, but at the same time, it seems like he doesn't know what to replace it with.


he'll figure it out. if he hasnt already eye
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
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Reply #112 posted 07/30/06 6:59pm

TotalAlisa

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my thread about manuela was locked.... it was not to be mean sprirted... i was just surprised at the way she looked... because you would think by the way prince acts he would have the most beautiful woman on his arms.. i would say she is attractive... but i dont think she is the prettiest... but she does look good... also i thought prince would go by looks only.. because of the past girls that were in his video... i mean... look at carmen electra she is really gorgeous..... anyways... my locked thread was NOT to be mean spirited... it was my opinion but if it offended any one i apologize....
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Reply #113 posted 07/30/06 7:10pm

nurse

TotalAlisa said:

my thread about manuela was locked.... it was not to be mean sprirted... i was just surprised at the way she looked... because you would think by the way prince acts he would have the most beautiful woman on his arms.. i would say she is attractive... but i dont think she is the prettiest... but she does look good... also i thought prince would go by looks only.. because of the past girls that were in his video... i mean... look at carmen electra she is really gorgeous..... anyways... my locked thread was NOT to be mean spirited... it was my opinion but if it offended any one i apologize....



No need to apologize-it's cool hug. It has just become thread lock central around here lately, but you didn't do anything wrong wink .
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Reply #114 posted 07/30/06 7:52pm

KelleyG

nurse said:

TotalAlisa said:

my thread about manuela was locked.... it was not to be mean sprirted... i was just surprised at the way she looked... because you would think by the way prince acts he would have the most beautiful woman on his arms.. i would say she is attractive... but i dont think she is the prettiest... but she does look good... also i thought prince would go by looks only.. because of the past girls that were in his video... i mean... look at carmen electra she is really gorgeous..... anyways... my locked thread was NOT to be mean spirited... it was my opinion but if it offended any one i apologize....



No need to apologize-it's cool hug. It has just become thread lock central around here lately, but you didn't do anything wrong wink .

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Reply #115 posted 07/30/06 7:57pm

nurse

KelleyG said:

nurse said:




No need to apologize-it's cool hug. It has just become thread lock central around here lately, but you didn't do anything wrong wink .


don't apologize Manu wants it 2 look like shes cares about NE1 BUTT herseLF




What? eek confuse
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Reply #116 posted 07/30/06 8:01pm

wonder505

nurse said:

KelleyG said:



don't apologize Manu wants it 2 look like shes cares about NE1 BUTT herseLF




What? eek confuse


Mani's rich and lives luxuriously, so we're supposed to stereotype her and believe she only cares about herself.

Funny, I know a lot people who don't care about nobody but themselves, one was my ex and the other are folks are grew up with, who were definately not rich....but I digress.....
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Reply #117 posted 07/30/06 8:04pm

nurse

wonder505 said:

nurse said:





What? eek confuse


Mani's rich and lives luxuriously, so we're supposed to stereotype her and believe she only cares about herself.

Funny, I know a lot people who don't care about nobody but themselves, one was my ex and the other are folks are grew up with, who were definately not rich....but I digress.....



Oh I see now thanks 4 the explanation wonder505 wink .
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Reply #118 posted 07/30/06 8:41pm

silverandgold

LeGrindLady said:

KelleyG said:




Don't U remember how Manu thought she was better than everyone and could look down on them and exclude them? that's how beautiful Manu is eek



Puhleezze!!! Mani looks like a twig on a tree....if Prince has to be with anyone, why not Tamar? He did say on one of his show I went to in feb. Sex with Chocolate


LeGrindlady,

He said "Sexual Chocolate" at his shows with Tamar, not "Sex with Chocolate".
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Reply #119 posted 07/30/06 8:44pm

xPeRIeNCE

I just had an idea...

Now, the NPGMC's temporary shut-down is only "allegedly" due 2 a legal battle w/ that British company...could the shut-down maybe have something 2 do w/ a different legal battle? Maybe Prince doesn't want his virtual home that he shares w/ his admirers/friends/family 2 b a place of discussion (well, "gossip" would b a better word") about what he & Manuela r going thru...& eye wouldn't blame him 4 letting this divorce b a reason 4 shutting the place down. In fact, eyed probably do the same if eye were him. He doesn't need 2 hear/c his fans gossip about him...about things that they don't entirely know about, no less.

Anyway, that's just a possibility that occurred 2 me, & eye thought eyed just throw it out there.

Peace & Hugz
~Laura*<+)O
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