1FRO said:

mayb they mean someone mo mature...
pure-heartedness quickly turns to childishness, without wisdom.

love from the old crone. x

sacredwarrior said:

Prince is had two failed relationships because he's not emotionally mature.

MickG said:

mm. a right royal pain in the ass.
but a mature mate would know how to handle it.

mothers inc. x

sacredwarrior said:

Though, I do Agree with that statement. I counter that Point with Prince doesn't have to make it difficult. After all, assuming Prince is the Man in the relationship with his wives, it clearly states in the bible, that prince seems so attached to, that the Man is suposed to be the matured one.

MickG said:

during the patriarchal era yes. but the world is upgrading to a matriarchal era. the divine feminine. look whats happened since men have been in charge, or should i say 'boys'. no offence ( as this relates to our inner male side and female side and has very little to do with actual gender )

in my simple tired mind, the ideal is for both the male and the female to have their inner male and female sides balanced, adhering to a certain order of maturity.....

on a personal level, my womb, and everything that makes me a creator of life, a nurturer of life, of children.....is power. men have that capacity too, but they tend to only realise it in themselves with a good dose of good mothering, firm and kind. but they dont create life, they seed it, then the woman does the work. the egg is in the woman. the tadpole is merely a necessity

intresting discussion. x

Purplerain7772001 said:

Listen, there is no magic formula no matter what people or so-called experts say. Your soul mate is your soul mate. Fate or prayer (whatever you believe in) has to bring you together.

My aunt is 50 and dates a man my age, 35. She got divorced from her high school sweetheart after 20 years of marraige. She has been with her younger man for over 8 years, he's actually a part of the family and she is very happy.

Trying to match Prince up is useless.

and on that very sweet note,
c u all on the morrow. x

MickG said:

.....mayB he has a 'Love policy' that comes with a disclaimer: "Dispose after use"....just an observation....

MickG said:

.....B thinks U took 'rainbow children' waay 2 serious...listen with the understanding that he does the opposite of WHATEVER he says

theoriginalQueenB said:

ah so he needs his polar opposite?

wonder505 said:

Wow, tell your auntie I said,

I'm inclined to agree with you. I hope all these so-called "experts" right here will think about what you posted. It's like they think P is gonna read all this pseudo-spiritual, armchair psychology, Monday morning quarterback drivel and decide, "wow, all these people know what's best for me better than I do."

I dunno, I'm all for people voicing their thoughts but It seems to me that certain folks are crossing the line of what to state publicly and what should be kept to oneself. I doubt that this level of chastising and downright gloating would be well recieved by anyone and I sincerely hope he hasn't read a word of it.

I would think that anyone who claims to actually care about the man's well being would uplift him in prayer and leave it at that.....end rant.

ps...love your sig.

babynoz said:

nice litle piece of bait and flame u threw out there...
but guess what

most of these people DO know whats best for him better than he does

they might not always express it in ways that would 'please' ur over-critical mind

but u'd be surprised where a pop-star can find good advice

certainly not from anyone in his immediate physical vacinity thats for sure.

i wonder if they're just sayin a prayer and leavin it at that



" prince needs to find a mature mate " < that aint a fallacy thats a fact

whether or not it needs to be said? r u the judge?

nope.

It doesn't matter how old the woman is, a prick will always be a prick

Emotions said:

LMAO!!!!! very true...

but, u dont leave a guy like prince. u just dont.

when u really love someone, ur supposed to know they're a prick b4 u marry them

it aint like he hits women

and u cant be possessive with a man like that either

he's special, no matter how much of a prick he can be

when ur a strong mature woman

u allow ur husband some faults

and address them intelligently if u think those faults r causing serious damage

even infidelities if that be the case, u allow

thats what Queens do

they love their husbands

4 better, or 4 worse.

sacredwarrior said:

I know alot of people might not agree with me but, Prince shoulld be dating women he has something in common with... like his age. He is as old as my mom. And I think she would make him an excellent wife. They could take a yoga class and discuss crazy things they did in the seventies. I think in his quest of eternal youth he is sucking the youth and life out of any women he meets that are 20 years younger then him. He should be ashamed of himself. I mean did he really think that marrying some girl who was a toddler when purple rain came out would make a great idea for a wife?? Prince needs to grow up!! He needs to stop looking for child brides and get a woman with a little more seasoning.

sacredwarrior said:

Nice try.

My comments were not directed toward any particular individual or even limited to this thread, but as my Granny would say, a stuck pig will holler.

That's an old saying. I'm not calling you a pig.

Flame bait? Hardly. My statement was neither abusive nor inflammatory. People may disagree and that's fine but at the end of the day what is to be gained by becoming so enmeshed in the personal matters of others when one is not in a position to directly affect the situation AND HAS NOT BEEN ASKED TO DO SO? Especially when one is not aquainted with either the individual or the details of the matter at hand?

For example, anyone who has ever been guilty of an error in judgement knows how irksome and deflating it is when family and friends go into overkill with the I told you so and coulda, shoulda, woulda type comments. Imagine the same thing a thousand fold, perpetuated by people you don't even know and imagine yourself in that situation.

Do people have a right to comment on whatever? Certainly. I just find it wise to balance one's need to pontificate with respect, compassion and understanding as I have done with you. It isn't so much that people shouldn't comment as it is the intentions behind the comments. Examine yours and then determine if it is appropriate for you to be someone's self-appointed advisor. .

You believe that most of these people know better? Yet you contend that I'm being overly critical? Alrighty then. I still maintain that sincere and heartfelf prayers and/or positive thoughts are a better alternative regardless of what you imagine people in Prince's immediate vicinity may or may not be doing.

Finally since you're addressing me directly, I'm doing the same. I will absolutely be the judge of what I think of your comments and I'll leave you with the words of an old hymm by the Staples Singers...

"A whole town can accuse, and carry bad news,
gossip is cheap, and it's low,
so unless, you've made, no mistakes in your life,
just be careful of the stones that you throw..."



A different perspective...that's all.

sacredwarrior said:

Don't know about the infidelity part...

The thing that most of you all are forgetting is that the divorce rate for common people is astronomical. Double that for celebrities like Prince. Marriage is hard enough, But when you add being in the public Eye to it. That makes it a lot harder. If I were Prince, I'd just stay single.

1FRO said:

Or, to use the great mans own words:

Why is age more than a number, When it comes to love?

SexyBeautifulOne said:

I always felt that way and thought I was the only one regarding him and Sheila too*

Emotions said:

betcha by golly wow yes boys will be boys and men will be men

chances r, if ur with the One, they wont cheat on u anyway ...

but if they do, u treat the infidelity with the attention it deserves

none

sacredwarrior said:

That's ridiculous. What if it was the woman cheating??? boys will be boys. What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Emotions said:

a married woman who cheats is not a woman but a girl

a married man who cheats is not a man but a boy

when ur life-long partner, to whom you have committed yourself whole-heartedly, wants to be childish.....

you dont let it turn you into a child too.

" boo hoo u cheated on me ur an asshole bitch get out! "

please

if ur lifelong partner wants to leave you for someone else, you hold ur head high and let them, but you dont leave them, you let them leave you.

there is more to life than who's fucking who, and what will you do if he's fucking her or she's fucking him

people who indulge in those trivial childish games should be treated as children

and depending on what kind of parent you are, some say, Love is the best medicine

that Love comes in many forms, primarily self-respect, and i dont think self-respect has so much to do with how you allow someone to treat you, but more to do with how you respond to life's challenges, in this case the challenge of MARRIAGE which is not to be entered into lightly on a whim cuz i feel so good when i'm with him and she just loves me for me.

i've seen this so-called 'game' played over and over, in the hearts of many many people. it always ends in heartbeak because to these many, love and marriage is about what u can get from someone or how they make you feel or how they and they alone can turn ur frown into a smile.....

2 incomplete people do not make one whole.

we arent put here to torture each other to emotional death with our insecurities and tiny little apathetic needs....

and whilst relationships in general are good grounds for growth,
marriage is a serious commitment, an Ethic, a standard of Spiritual Regal Integrity, that is 'supposed' to be respected, no matter who does what.

all imo

Hmmm..can't say I can really imagine Prince with a woman his age...maybe Denise or Sheila but I think if that was really ment to be he'd be with either of them right now.

Didn't Denise say in one of his biographies that he loved to play dad and has a very nurturing, fatherly side to him in romantic relationships? I think most women his age don't want to be fathered and have lived alot so they know what they like, what they believe in so I don't think they would appreciate the kind of guidence and mentoring that Prince likes to exibit towords women.
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sacredwarrior said:

[i]I agree with you on some points but beg to differ on others;

Infidelity alone is not cause to dissolve a marriage. "I'm sorry, I won't do it again" goes a long way. Then the guilty party needs to live up to it.

Trust gets lost with infidelity and it takes work to get it back and willingness of both parties to do so.

No one with self respect would tolerate a continuously philandering spouse.
There's a lack of ethics which include lying, deceit, self indulgance. "What if we all behave this way?" is my rule of thumb.(Kant,Immanuel) So much for family life. The behavior is flat out wrong.

How would you feel if you contracted a disease such as herpes, HIV, hepatitis, as a result of the irresonsible behavior of your partner? Martyrdom should only go so far.
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Wow. This turned out to be a good thread. Luv the wise and varied povs. Contrary to rumor, maturity is a wonderful thing.

sacredwarrior said:

You honestly believe that the people in this cyberspace forum , in real life, in real time, actually know what's best for a person they've not even met or don't know personally ...

JonnyApplesauce said:

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Ottensen said:

nope, wouldn't think of it.