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Thread started 07/25/06 5:41am

mikek1

Rick James or Prince?

I was on another site and someone said James shits on Prince; agree?

Better producer, bass player, singer, more original?


I only have 5 James song on my laptop and i don't know who played what so can someone tell me please, thanks.
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Reply #1 posted 07/25/06 6:13am

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they're both cool to me...they both got/had their demons n'shit, but they're both excellent musicians in my book. nod
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Reply #2 posted 07/25/06 6:18am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

they're both cool to me...they both got/had their demons n'shit, but they're both excellent musicians in my book. nod

nod headbang fro dancing jig
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Reply #3 posted 07/25/06 7:33am

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Given that this is a Prince fan site, the answers may just be skewed in one certain direction don'tcha think.....
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Reply #4 posted 07/25/06 7:58am

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NouveauDance said:

Given that this is a Prince fan site, the answers may just be skewed in one certain direction don'tcha think.....

not really--there's a lotta folks here who like both of 'em equally.
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Reply #5 posted 07/25/06 8:50am

sexxydancer

Prince is THE greatest musician ever! NO ONE else comes close!
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Reply #6 posted 07/25/06 9:21am

Krystal666

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I like both of their music...but I think of Prince as a far better role model.
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Reply #7 posted 07/25/06 10:16am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

NouveauDance said:

Given that this is a Prince fan site, the answers may just be skewed in one certain direction don'tcha think.....

not really--there's a lotta folks here who like both of 'em equally.


Myself included smile
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Reply #8 posted 07/25/06 11:03am

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sexxydancer said:

Prince is THE greatest musician ever! NO ONE else comes close!

Ya know, I could almost see this one coming lol
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Reply #9 posted 07/25/06 11:13am

purplerein

Prince is the vagina!...whoops, wrong thread...

I once heard a Sly song on the program "ER"...it went something like, if you want me to stay..yadda yaddda...., but Sly made good music. I'm so tired of these comparison threads..
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Reply #10 posted 07/25/06 2:08pm

sexxydancer

FuNkeNsteiN said:

sexxydancer said:

Prince is THE greatest musician ever! NO ONE else comes close!

Ya know, I could almost see this one coming lol

Can't help it-he just is!! lol
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Reply #11 posted 07/25/06 5:15pm

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When I was in high school, I was a DIE HARD Rick James fan- so much so, that I couldn't even consider Prince. I own all of Rick James' albums on vinyl, except for the last one, which was just scary in any medium. eek I only have that one on tape.
I think I've mentioned in other places how I didn't 'discover' Prince until I got to college. I had a roommate who played only Prince, which was hard at 1st. But we learned a lot from each other, and she converted me.

I love 'em both! fro
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Reply #12 posted 07/25/06 6:25pm

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Rick James has a smaller body of work and comes out looking quite one dimensional stylewise and otherwise when compared to Prince. Maybe in 1982 the comparison would have been more apt. They are in different leagues now.
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Reply #13 posted 07/25/06 6:26pm

nurse

Prince is the greatest-next topic cool .
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Reply #14 posted 07/25/06 7:53pm

RickJ

Me, bitches.
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Reply #15 posted 07/25/06 8:34pm

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RickJ said:

Me, bitches.

The Chappelle shit is getting old. Find somethin' mo useful to do with your time mkay?
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Reply #16 posted 07/25/06 8:57pm

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skywalker said:

Rick James has a smaller body of work and comes out looking quite one dimensional stylewise and otherwise when compared to Prince. Maybe in 1982 the comparison would have been more apt. They are in different leagues now.




BUSTIN OUT OF L 7, LOVE GUN, and the album with him all medeval with a bladed guitar all kick ass!

Those 3 albums I just mentioned have propulsive funk tracks that Prince fans would DIE to hear Prince release; Rick James albums have wittier,slyer lyrics than a lot of Prince lyrics.

Rick James on record was FUNKIER than Prince. Live & Bootleg-Prince by a mile.
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Reply #17 posted 07/25/06 9:34pm

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Let's review this; Rick admitted to having a coke habit of $7,000/week for 5 years. Held hostage one woman, with the help of his girlfriend, and used her as a sex slave..held another for 20 hours under similar circumstances..autopsy showed Xanax, Valium, Vicodin, Methamphetamine, and Cocaine at the time of death...which was 52? I liked "Super Freak" and that era. Doesn't span 25 years of P's music, minus the drugs.
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Reply #18 posted 07/25/06 9:35pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

RickJ said:

Me, bitches.

The Chappelle shit is getting old. Find somethin' mo useful to do with your time mkay?



... and you do something with the "mkay".
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Reply #19 posted 07/25/06 9:48pm

BSK3601

FuNkeNsteiN said:

RickJ said:

Me, bitches.

The Chappelle shit is getting old. Find somethin' mo useful to do with your time mkay?

truth of the matter is that the whole Prince vs. Rick James has been old for 20+ years. They're both great for different reasons.
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Reply #20 posted 07/26/06 6:34am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

NouveauDance said:

Given that this is a Prince fan site, the answers may just be skewed in one certain direction don'tcha think.....

not really--there's a lotta folks here who like both of 'em equally.


wave Here I am! I like them almost equally. I've always like Prince just a hair more. Rick kept Prince on his toes competition-wise and brought out the best in him. I just wish Rick had still been at the top of his game in 1985, we would have seen an entirely different Prince that year. lol
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Reply #21 posted 07/26/06 6:35am

Ernest

they are both exelent artists and true funk soldiers, but i think prince is a better artist than Rick cause Rick's music came out of one bag and thats funk, while prince has done funk, rock n roll, pop, r&b, jazz, e.t.c.
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Reply #22 posted 07/26/06 6:41am

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xplnyrslf said:

Let's review this; Rick admitted to having a coke habit of $7,000/week for 5 years. Held hostage one woman, with the help of his girlfriend, and used her as a sex slave..held another for 20 hours under similar circumstances..autopsy showed Xanax, Valium, Vicodin, Methamphetamine, and Cocaine


And all this has what to do with his music? Hell, some of his best music was made when he was high as hell. I remember in 1985 when he released "Glow", he told "Right On" magazine that he was drug free. When I heard the album, I said "Get this man some damn drugs!" lol


at the time of death...which was 52?


Wrong. 59.


I liked "Super Freak" and that era.


Typical pop fan's answer...."I like Super Freak and that era". That's like someone saying about Prince....."I like Purple Rain and that era". Rick came out the same year as Prince and had an album a year (two in 1979) until 1988, with the exception of 1987. It was time for Rick to quit then anyway because funk was dying during the late 1980s (thanks a lot Shitney Houston).
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BUSTIN OUT OF L 7, LOVE GUN, and the album with him all medeval with a bladed guitar all kick ass!

Those 3 albums I just mentioned have propulsive funk tracks that Prince fans would DIE to hear Prince release; Rick James albums have wittier,slyer lyrics than a lot of Prince lyrics.

Rick James on record was FUNKIER than Prince. Live & Bootleg-Prince by a mile.


No doubt Rick could give Prince a run for his money when it came to the funk. However, Prince could do DMSR one minute, and something like A Case of U the next. That is where and when Prince starts pulling away from Rick James in this race.
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Reply #24 posted 07/26/06 7:20am

Rhondab

i've never considered them even similar.


last night I played me some Mary Jane and Dream Maker though...


you gotten love you some stank ass Rick.
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Reply #25 posted 07/26/06 8:07am

dseann

Love 'em both.
They were both gifted musicians but Slick Rick had much much better pipes.
If it wasn't for his "distractions", I think Slick Rick would have outshined Prince, but getting high, kidnapping women and raping them with his freak of a wife got in the way.

Prince rules supreme.....not "Rick James Bitch!"
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Reply #26 posted 07/26/06 8:08am

dseann

RickJ said:

Me, bitches.



Once again I love you Mary Jane.
lol
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Reply #27 posted 07/26/06 8:12am

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warning2all said:

skywalker said:

Rick James has a smaller body of work and comes out looking quite one dimensional stylewise and otherwise when compared to Prince. Maybe in 1982 the comparison would have been more apt. They are in different leagues now.




BUSTIN OUT OF L 7, LOVE GUN, and the album with him all medeval with a bladed guitar all kick ass!

Those 3 albums I just mentioned have propulsive funk tracks that Prince fans would DIE to hear Prince release; Rick James albums have wittier,slyer lyrics than a lot of Prince lyrics.

Rick James on record was FUNKIER than Prince. Live & Bootleg-Prince by a mile.

Love Gun is not a Rick James album, my friend. The medieval theme and axe-like guitar is on the cover of Throwin' Down
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Reply #28 posted 07/26/06 10:57am

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skywalker said:


BUSTIN OUT OF L 7, LOVE GUN, and the album with him all medeval with a bladed guitar all kick ass!

Those 3 albums I just mentioned have propulsive funk tracks that Prince fans would DIE to hear Prince release; Rick James albums have wittier,slyer lyrics than a lot of Prince lyrics.

Rick James on record was FUNKIER than Prince. Live & Bootleg-Prince by a mile.


No doubt Rick could give Prince a run for his money when it came to the funk. However, Prince could do DMSR one minute, and something like A Case of U the next. That is where and when Prince starts pulling away from Rick James in this race.

I agree. Here's the deal; Both artists came out with their debut albums in 1978. When u compare those two albums, Rick's album makes P's look like a child put that together. That's how more advanced Rick's first album was over P's. U have to remember Rick had 2 bonafide hit singles off of that album in "You and I" and "Mary Jane". Just the overall songwriting and production and even more crucial, Rick's VISION. P, at that stage, wasn't sure what the fuck he wanted to do. He just knew he could sing in falsetto and play all of his own instruments. He didn't get his shit together untill his second album and really, he didn't get a clear vision of his image untill Dirty Mind. Again, in 81, when both men released albums, look at those two albums. P's Controversy, which was cool, BUT look at Rick's "Street Songs". Again, as much as I adore the song "Controversy", that album can't hold a candle to "Street Songs". Rick already had his style down pat where as P was still defining his. It wouldn't be untill P's album 1999, which was brilliant, when P started to put some distance between him and Rick. Rick wasn't the musician P is nor is Rick nearly as innovative. That showed as clear as day on the 1999 album. I think that album scared the shit out of Rick cuz he simply knew he couldn't fuck with that. EVER.
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Reply #29 posted 07/26/06 11:21am

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skywalker said:



No doubt Rick could give Prince a run for his money when it came to the funk. However, Prince could do DMSR one minute, and something like A Case of U the next. That is where and when Prince starts pulling away from Rick James in this race.

I agree. Here's the deal; Both artists came out with their debut albums in 1978. When u compare those two albums, Rick's album makes P's look like a child put that together. That's how more advanced Rick's first album was over P's. U have to remember Rick had 2 bonafide hit singles off of that album in "You and I" and "Mary Jane". Just the overall songwriting and production and even more crucial, Rick's VISION. P, at that stage, wasn't sure what the fuck he wanted to do. He just knew he could sing in falsetto and play all of his own instruments. He didn't get his shit together untill his second album and really, he didn't get a clear vision of his image untill Dirty Mind. Again, in 81, when both men released albums, look at those two albums. P's Controversy, which was cool, BUT look at Rick's "Street Songs". Again, as much as I adore the song "Controversy", that album can't hold a candle to "Street Songs". Rick already had his style down pat where as P was still defining his. It wouldn't be untill P's album 1999, which was brilliant, when P started to put some distance between him and Rick. Rick wasn't the musician P is nor is Rick nearly as innovative. That showed as clear as day on the 1999 album. I think that album scared the shit out of Rick cuz he simply knew he couldn't fuck with that. EVER.


smart assessment
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