I once heard a preacher (her church is in Compton, CA) say that if a woman want to either get a man or keep her man she needs to wear make-up in order to effectively compete with the other women that he might come in contact with outside of the home. Do you agree?
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Do you think a woman who wears make-up is ungodly?

Would those of you who rag on Mani think she looked better if she wore make-up and tight suggestive clothing?

Would those of you who like Mayte think she was ugly without the make-up and revealing clothing?
[This message was edited Sun Aug 4 15:15:36 PDT 2002 by CandyEyce]

Beauty comes from the inside

Definitely if she was more Glammed-Up. I think there is Absolutely nothing Wrong with Make-Up and Sexy clothing. Women should definitely Glamourize themselves. I used to go 2 the Supermarket with A Fur Coat and Full Make-Up. I know that's Severe,but you get the point. Of course Beauty comes from the Inside,but no one wants to look at an UGLY Face. If a Woman looks better with Make-up by all means she should wear it!
[This message was edited Sun Aug 4 15:10:46 PDT 2002 by Vagina]

Iam a woman and I don't like myself without makeup.
I thought Mani wears makeup? I don't care one way
or the other.

Hell naw!

Added Question
So who looks better Mayte or Mani? What makes the difference in your opinion (the clothes, the make-up, or the attitude)?

I know I wear make up, but differing amounts for different occasions.

Some women don't really need any make up. I bet that must feel good!

And yeah, also, its really about feeling attractive for me.

Yes a woman can be attractive without make-up
just look at yourselfs when you take that
make-up off and what do you see when you have
to face that mirror but YOURSELF.

It how you present your beauty. 8)

Beauty is within

I don't know Mani or Mayte,however in my opinion Mani needs to Sexy herself up. Mayte seems like a sensitive person,Mani seems a little Shy and Proper. Loosen-Up Mani. Get Wild!

Not at ll.women do not have to waer maeup.as a matter of fact,i prefer that they don't.i mean,sometimes it's more appropriate for certain effects she may wish to create...oh ihate lipstick!!i like to kiss long and hard and suck the lips and lipstick just isn't conducive to me doing that.a littleeyeliner may be cool,but i don't need much else.

I think if you're really ugly you should wear as much make up as possible!

However, if you have a mug as ugly as Oceana's, there's absolutely nothing you can do about it, short of a craniumectomy.

Personality is what I find attractive in a person .
But to answer the question,no,women dont have to wear make up to be attractive JMHO .

Here's my question: why do women feel the need to "get" a man, like she's hunting? Why not just meet men and let things naturally progress? Why the plotting, planning, desparation and competition?

Would we still wear makeup if we weren't trying to attract/look good for men?

And for those of you who said it's all about personality and that beauty comes from within--let's get real. I think we all know some wonderful human beings who we would not date due to lack of physical attraction. If it was all about the insides, the world would be a lot different.

I have to agree we all wish men only wanted us for our Brains,however we must Attract the man. Yes, a pleasing Personality is the key. But men generally start making passes at women based on their Beauty. Physical Attractiveness. No man wants a Tyrant, Bitch who is Argumentative and Cold. We gotta Love Our Men Ladies. Be there for them, Stroke them the Right way. We gotta let our Femininity shine through. No Man wants a BULL DYKE! Make-up just makes women feel better about themselves and look better also. Every little bit helps. I Love Men. U should 2! Let's love our Mates and be sensitive to their needs and problems.
[This message was edited Sun Aug 4 17:05:25 PDT 2002 by Vagina]

Vagina, why do you go to such extremes? Why are you making women out to be "tyrants" "bitches" "bulldykes"?

Vagina said:

What if you grew up being called a whore (especially when you wore make-up or nail polish), and wearing make-up just reminds of that? Make-up won't exactly make you feel better about yourself if that is the case.

Does a woman have to wear make-up to be attractive??...Of course not...Besides, the standards of "beauty" are ever-changing and suspect to our own biases...so there can never be a "must" for anyone to do in order to be considered attractive...

I will echo, however, something Therapy touched on, and say that with some women, they do feel better about their looks when they use a certain amount of make-up...and that feeling reflects in their personalities when they socialize...feeling attractive is neccesary to being attractive to others...I've known women who have been drop-dead gorgeous(in my eyes anyway) who have felt as if they were too tall/short/fat/thin/light/dark...they refused to see themselves as being beautiful, no matter what...and I've also known women who were not "physically" attractive, at least not immediately, yet who felt and acted as if they were...and their personalities made them attractive to everyone else, simply because they felt they truly were beautiful women...and that feeling, coupled along with wit, intelligence, humor and compassion, made them damn near irresistible to others, regardless of their physical appearance...

So...does a woman need make-up to be attractive??...Only if you're talking about the type you apply internally...

I feel bad for anybody Candy who was called a Whore when growing up just because She wore Make-Up! This is Stupid,Backward,Negative thinking and it's ABUSE! Definitely then this person Needs Therapy. Cause Make-Up isn't going to help her. It does come down to Having a Healthy Self Image that's True. However, if a women looks better with Make-Up she should Wear it. Especially when in the Public Eye,because the Camera is always there. Women who are not in the public eye have Their Own Rules. People really aren't scrutinizing them. I still don't think Men Want to Make Love to Dogs. I wouldn't if I were a Man. And maybe this is why Playboy and other Men's magazines are doing so well. Because women aren't taking care of their looks and Exercising and just thinking "Well I've got my Man and he'll stay with me Forever." Listen if U let yourself Go and become a Bitch or 300 pds there is Always Another Women who Maybe Your Man will Look at and Fantasize about. Ladies, I'm telling you. You better Start Appreciating your Man and Stop Taking things for Granted! Men don't stay Faithful and they aren't going to be Sexing U if U aren't attractive to them. If Your man isn't getting an Erection for U then there is a Big Problem. You better start talking because he may have Anotherlover. Men aren't going to be Celebate. You better start Getting Sexy and Comely again. And if he can't look at U and it's always Doggy position. Well,maybe it's your Face he doesn't want to look at. Whatever it is Fix-it. A life without Sex is Shitty and if there is no Sex in your Marriage then that's grounds for Divorce. Women start checking these things out. Listen to Vagina. I know these things.

I used to be one of those women who thought I HAD to wear make-up to look normal. I didn't have any acne but I thought I was ugly and needed it. My (girl) friends would say "You look good without make-up." One of them said I looked better without it. People would complement me on my make-up and I'd be offended. They'd say "I like your make-up" or "Your makeup's nice." instead of "YOU look nice." That made me feel really ugly, so I really thought I needed it. Then, I met this guy who was all about his appearance from head to toe. One day, I was meeting him somewhere. I said "I'm not going to were a lot a make-up today, just foundation and lipstick." and he said "Then why am I going?" I was like damn. I felt like I always had to be "on." I used to think women needed at least foundation and lipstick, but now I don't. I stopped wearing make-up a month ago and I feel great about it. I'll wear it if I go out or something like that, but not for my everyday life.

No,I dont think a woman has to wear make-up to be attactive. I dont wear make-up and I get plenty of men approaching me,talking,flirting. Sometimes its her personality that draws a man to liking a woman. Much like the rest of you,I have gotten my share of looks and glances. But is was not make-up I was wearing, it was just a simple smile. Of course I am naturally flirty to begin with.

It is whats on the inside that counts. Show a beautiful personality and your own true beauty will shine through even more. Make-up is fine if thats what makes you feel prettier, but dont do it for somebody else if it ends up making you miserable. If you have to change yourself for somebody,then obviously they dont see the true beauty you already have. If you make any changes to your appearance, make sure its what you want. You are the one who has to deal with it everyday.

, and God Bless!

bkw said:

Or rectal surgery... in Oceana's case, that would be a face-lift.

I definitely agree ladies. If you don't like Yourself or what you see in the mirror or you're just not Happy. This will definitely Project itself. Pictures Show A lot. They say a picture says a million words. And every picture tells a story. This is all true. But really if you are a Straight woman all you need is your Man to Love U it doesn't matter if your Girlfriend likes U with Make-up or not! It's what your Man likes . It's him that U need 2 please not your Girlfriends or the Rest of the World. True 1 must have a Healthy Psychological State. I'm all for Psychiatrists or Psychologists. Too Bad more people aren't getting the Help they need. I see people everyday talking to themselves and acting weird. We have so many Troubled People out on the Streets. Horrible really.

No. But Prince does

CandyEyce said:

makeup should be used to cover up any noticebale flaws or to quickly cover up any pimples,etc. going out on an occasion or being with a special someone, woman should ten use make-up extensively. other women who use makeup (tons) daily are absorbed with their looks or are very sensitive to accept the truth of their looks.
my teacher from my religion center, women should be humble,etc. so men don't get the wrong idea. and so the personality and intelligence can be shown. thus, women get breats reduction.

to put him makeup extensively, woman are using their looks to get attention since they lack substance of any arguable talent. for ex:britney spears.


i personally don't find matye beautiful either. she is pretty but that is it. no make-up or poses or clothes would make me find her hot! in the photos that i've seen of her, i would look at her only for the attractiveness and that is it.

the pics of mani that i've seen are only from the sports game. she looks pretty and happy. perhaps with her now husband, she dresses sexy.

The only people that say "Beauty comes form the inside" are people who HAVE to believe that because they are not great looking. Most women look bad without make up. Keep the make up on!!!

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"i'm not ugly, i am just beautifully challenged!"

lol...

They always said in women's magazines that Women are More critical of their Flaws then Men. But as Women I think we are always going crazy over our Looks,more so than Men. However there are Definitely some Men who are just as Vain as women. The Plastic Surgeons Love People like this. They say in Hollywood by age 30 U are alrighty getting a little Face work. But Damn some people Over-Do it and then they don't look Real or even Human. 1 woman actually had Plastic Surgery to look like a Cat! Joyce Wilderstein or something and now she's big with the TRANSVESTITE scene. Funny really. Her husband left her. I guess he didn't want to Fuck a Siamese. HAHAHA!

Vagina said:

yeah..like mj.
about the woman who looks like a cat, that is just gross!!! even mj looks hot compared to her. how awful!! i heard she is having her own perfume out!

wellbeyond said:

I'm with you...

Whatever gets you by I say... Sometimes I wear make-up, sometimes I don't... and it's not just about looking attractive for men... it would be naive to say that isn't sometimes part of it for some woman, but mostly it's about the feeling YOU (the person wearing make-up) gets from wearing it.

If it makes one feel more self-confident, then why not... Wearing make-up is also often just a form of self-expression... like the clothes one chooses to wear.. it can reflect your style and personal taste... make-up can be fun to play around with anyway... I don't think it's sole purpose is to make one look more attractive.

A woman certainly doesn't HAVE TO wear make-up to be attractive... but yea... nothing wrong with a little accessorizing if she so chooses.

At the risk of stating the obvious, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so what is attractive to some men, won't necessarily be attractive to others... thus make-up is not the answer for everyone... being attractive comes down to a lot more than being aesthetically sound in the long run..., for me anyway.

Make up is to make a woman look and/or feel good about herself.

Beauty comes from within. You don't have to wear make up to be yourself or pretend.