thepope2the9s said:

If u dont know what makes a hit ,,,a hit,,,than how can u say ICPC isnt one?

either way...the world will never know....[/quote]

if u continue to read what i posted you will see what i meant when i went on to say i know it isn't a hit in the modern sense of the word meaning what most people refer to a hits these days. Of course it could be a hit to you and I'm sure if u ask Prince he considers it a hit. But this thread didn't ask what makes a hit a hit? It was said the ICPC had all the makings of a hit if someone younger had put it out and I'm just stating that isn't the truth. ICPC would flop no matter who had put it out. Its not a hit in the modern (TRL, Top40 radio, 106@Park) sense of the friggin word! In my mind, NPS is a good album however I'm not going to start a thread about how it would have went diamond if the Neptunes had put it out cause there is no truth or validity whatsoever to that statement and we (or most right thinking people on this site know this).

adorable2 said:

I did not care for the song that much. I don't think it could have been a hit. The concept was cool but there was no payoff.

reneGade20 said:

Well it was one of the most honest.

I also think it would have been a hit if it had been recorded by someone else. It's definately shit hop sounding.

doesurdaddycry said:

you're probably right, my younger friends that know nothing of prince told me they loved that song when they heard it, and they couldn't care less about any of the others on that album.

vainandy said:

yeah but even hip hop(commercial hip hop) right now is being dominated by a different sound (chopped and screwed southern Texas, hyphy music out of the Bay Area, Crunk music out of ATL, whatever Kanye is currently sampling, etc.) ICPC sounds nothing like any of these. ICPC is a filler by any standards.

MickG said:

in what sense?

reneGade20 said:

Story as in unfolding.

adorable2 said:

ICPC really stands out on the first listen musically and melodically. That eastern melody chorus pops.

ufoclub said:

On the first listen even I was intrigued but by the time it ended, I wasn't saying play it again. Don't get me wrong, its not trash or terribly horrible, its just not something that would make TRL or MTVjams or whatever. Its a little ditty about a handsome young player wit good sex and a rich old pale lady who needs some d*ck in her life. Its a filler.
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PurpleKnight said:

they buying the new justin timberlake and it sounds old tyme as hell

PurpleKnight said:

what sounds like this from the early 80's?

I can understand saying The Strokes or the Killers sounds like an utter rehash of early 80's....

ccollin88 said:

The public will buy early 80's sound. But ICPC sounds late 80's early 90's to me if that's at all possible because you can almost never put a date on anything P does.

doesurdaddycry said:

this song i'm not so sure about, but others yes.

adorable2 said:

No it isn't. "Doris" is Warner Bros. Work the rest out yourself.

Justin1972UK said:

whatever it is about, and i prefer my interpretation, its a filler..

The topic is not really G rated stuff to me. Its about a guy whose bankrolled by a rich old lady, and it sounds to black and street for thr pop charts. Maybe in 1938 on Okeh records it may have a hit

tane1976 said:

Meet me in the trap its going down...

Its clever and funky as a mofo. One of the best things hes done in years, particularly the outro when he opens it up w/ the guitar. Good grief. However, I'm afraid it puts too many demands on the American demographic's ear. They aint ready. Europe would get it. but alas, we've been dumbed down a bit here.

chiltonmusic said:

And yet all 3 singles failed to be hits.

His recent songs are just too eclectic and cliche for modern hits. The hit songs now are all different and all have fresh 20 something people shaking their buts or playing Nirvana like grunge and or blinged out rapping. Not some guy pushing 50 whose pushing Harlem Renaissance style Jazzique music with the usual immature sex and outdated beat samples mixed in. Prince singles arent hits as your average 16 year old cant relate to a nearly 50 year old man dancing with two scantily clad girls to a mid 1990s rock beat. Black Sweat got close, it got to 50, but still as funky and tight as it is, it may have done better if it was 1986 and well Te Amo is too Adult Contemporary MOR.
These songs offer nothing new and nothing vital. Theyre like the Rolling Stones latest songs, catchy and well made but not fresh. I mean the album is full of mid 90s and earlier style music, hes passe.

If Prince wants a hit (and why would he stoop to that level) he would have to be like Madonna and sell out.

PS Trap door has hit the rubbish chute.

thedoorkeeper said:

Yes and that goes back to my having a problem with the way Universal handled the cd. You probably missed that part of my post. The label is responsible for airplay and them taking a month off after the cd debuted at #1 is their fault not Prince's.

chiltonmusic said:

If the CD was number 1 surely the fans and record buyers would have discovered it for themselves, why always get the artist and companies to do it all. Since it promptly sunk like a stone its obvious people bought it and thought this is inferior. The fact it made #1 also suggests it may have been ligged up there, perhaps by Universal announcing albums shipped as sold. It happened with Emancipation remember, the company shippped 700, 000 and as each counted as 3 discs it instantly went double platinum!!!! Yet at least 200,000 of them never sold. Lol

tane1976 said:

Well I can think of a few CD's that debuted at #1 and sunk (think Springsteen) but I don't blame the artist. Prince exists in a world where the main media for his craft (the radio) does not support him. That makes the debut even more impressive. Hell even Madonna's airplay has cooled and I love her new disc. Its as hot as anything outthere and how has it done by comparison to her other work as far as sales go?

That doesn't mean that the music wasn't good. I am a huge fan of 3121 and I don't know what people don't like about it personally. But then people were saying the same things about the Rainbow Children too. So maybe they just don't like anything new that Prince has done.