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BorisFishpaw said: leecaldon said: ONA Live is credited solely to Prince but the It Ain't Over is credited to Prince & the NPG. The NPGMC releases of Chocolate Invasion & Slaughterhouse are credited to Prince (even though we know songs like Peace were originally part of an unreleased NPG project). C-Note is also a Prince release No true... you can check for yourself... Go pick up your copy of ONA Live, have a look at the packaging...who is it credited to? Nowhere on the packaging does it say just "Prince". It clearly says on the spine of the CD "Prince and the New Power Generation - One Nite Alone...Live!" Also, if you check the download section of the NPGMC, you'll notice that "The Chocolate Invasion", "The Slaughterhouse" and "C-Note" are not actually credited to anyone. They are simply titled, with no artist. However, when C-Note was originally made available in 2002 to club members, the files were labelled "Prince and the NPG", and the emails sent out to members mentions the tracks as being by "Prince and the NPG". Case closed  OK, I'll give you ONA Live (not sure how I missed that for all these years), but not C-Note/Slaughterhouse/Chocolate Invasion. Each downloadable song on these is credited as 'Prince' and nothing else. Its embedded in the files that these are 'Prince' albums. The original C-Note tracks were credited to Prince & the NPG but they were individual files without even an official name for the project and the links were fairly randomly given out - until it was released in the Musicology Store as C-Note, where the tracks are credited solely to Prince (although Prince & the NPG would be more accurate for live stuff). And then there were 23... |
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leecaldon said: BorisFishpaw said: No true... you can check for yourself... Go pick up your copy of ONA Live, have a look at the packaging...who is it credited to? Nowhere on the packaging does it say just "Prince". It clearly says on the spine of the CD "Prince and the New Power Generation - One Nite Alone...Live!" Also, if you check the download section of the NPGMC, you'll notice that "The Chocolate Invasion", "The Slaughterhouse" and "C-Note" are not actually credited to anyone. They are simply titled, with no artist. However, when C-Note was originally made available in 2002 to club members, the files were labelled "Prince and the NPG", and the emails sent out to members mentions the tracks as being by "Prince and the NPG". The C-Note one is tenious but I have to side with leecaldon since we're supposed to be ganging up on Boris. The other two are surely just Prince even though theres some NPG and  on there. Remember Graffiti Bridge? That had stuff from The Time etc. but was just know as a Prince album. Then theres the Vault, another credited solely to Prince which was put together in '96 with old Prince tracks but Sara was recorded at the time while Prince was called O(+.
Ultimate Prince is officially being released in Canada on August 22nd so that'll bump it back up to 24. Case closed OK, I'll give you ONA Live (not sure how I missed that for all these years), but not C-Note/Slaughterhouse/Chocolate Invasion. Each downloadable song on these is credited as 'Prince' and nothing else. Its embedded in the files that these are 'Prince' albums. The original C-Note tracks were credited to Prince & the NPG but they were individual files without even an official name for the project and the links were fairly randomly given out - until it was released in the Musicology Store as C-Note, where the tracks are credited solely to Prince (although Prince & the NPG would be more accurate for live stuff). And then there were 23... | |
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Sorry I meant to say that since Ultimate is getting an official release in Canada on August 22nd that'll bump it back up to 24.
Regarding TCI and Slaughterhouse, remember Graffiti Bridge had The Time on it etc. and was regarded as just a Prince album. Then the Vault was put together in '96 with old Prince tracks but had Sara which was recorded in '96 while he was .
C-Note is a dodgy one but I'll have to side with leecaldon cos we're supposed to be ganging up on Boris and because it was credited to Prince as an album project when it was released on NPGMC. | |
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leecaldon said: BorisFishpaw said: No true... you can check for yourself... Go pick up your copy of ONA Live, have a look at the packaging...who is it credited to? Nowhere on the packaging does it say just "Prince". It clearly says on the spine of the CD "Prince and the New Power Generation - One Nite Alone...Live!" Also, if you check the download section of the NPGMC, you'll notice that "The Chocolate Invasion", "The Slaughterhouse" and "C-Note" are not actually credited to anyone. They are simply titled, with no artist. However, when C-Note was originally made available in 2002 to club members, the files were labelled "Prince and the NPG", and the emails sent out to members mentions the tracks as being by "Prince and the NPG". Case closed OK, I'll give you ONA Live (not sure how I missed that for all these years), but not C-Note/Slaughterhouse/Chocolate Invasion. Each downloadable song on these is credited as 'Prince' and nothing else. Its embedded in the files that these are 'Prince' albums. The original C-Note tracks were credited to Prince & the NPG but they were individual files without even an official name for the project and the links were fairly randomly given out - until it was released in the Musicology Store as C-Note, where the tracks are credited solely to Prince (although Prince & the NPG would be more accurate for live stuff). And then there were 23... I'm afraid the fact that the NPGMC Musicology store downloads contain the name 'Prince' embedded in the file for C-Note, The Chocolate Invasion and The Slaughterhouse cannot be used as proof that these albums are soley credited to "Prince". The reason why is because the same is also true of the NPGMC Musicology downloads of Crystal Ball and The Truth, so using that argument would mean you'd also have to include them as "Prince" albums too! So if we agree that Crystal Ball and The Truth are NOT "Prince" albums, but " " albums, then we cannot use the embedded name as proof of who an album
should be credited to. Therefore we MUST look towards what Prince and NPGMC have officially said or credited the various download-only albums to. The fact is that whenever C-Note, and the original individual tracks that comprise it, have been officially credited to any performer, it has ALWAYS been "Prince and the NPG", never just "Prince". The Chocolate Invasion and The Slaughterhouse have ALWAYS been described as collections of tracks taken from the first year of the NPGMC, and have NEVER been atributed to a specific artist (whereas other album HAVE been attibuted to "Prince" or "Prince and the NPG" or " " etc.). So we can only conclude
that Prince regards them still as 'compilations' and decided NOT to reclaim the tracks under the name of "Prince". As when we check both the original file names for these tracks, and how they were officially attributed on the NPGMC site itself (which are both consistent with eachother) it's clear that these tracks are attibuted to various different 'artists'- "Prince", " ",
and just "New Power Generation". as I said, case closed. | |
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Here's a list of all the Prince/ /NPG etc. albums
in chronological orger, including 'who' they have been officially attributed to... 04-07-78 For You - Prince 10-19-79 Prince - Prince 10-08-80 Dirty Mind - Prince 10-14-81 Controversy - Prince 10-27-82 1999 - Prince 06-25-84 Purple Rain – Prince and the Revolution 04-22-85 Around The World In A Day – Prince and the Revolution 03-31-86 Parade – Prince and the Revolution 03-30-87 Sign O’ The Times - Prince 05-10-88 Lovesexy - Prince 06-20-89 Batman - Prince 08-20-90 Graffiti Bridge - Prince 10-01-91 Diamonds And Pearls – Prince and the New Power Generation 10-13-92 – Prince and the New Power Generation
07-26-93 Goldnigga – New Power Generation 09-14-93 The Hits / The B-Sides - Prince 08-12-94 1-800-NEW-FUNK 08-16-94 Come - Prince 11-22-94 “The Black Album” (originally scheduled for release 12-08-87) 03-27-95 Exodus – New Power Generation 09-26-95 The Gold Experience –
03-19-96 Girl 6 07-09-96 Chaos And Disorder –
11-19-96 Emancipation –
02-14-97 Kamasutra – The NPG Orchestra 01-29-98 Crystal Ball / The Truth –
06-30-98 Newpower Soul – New Power Generation 08-24-99 The Vault… Old Friends 4 Sale - Prince 11-09-99 Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic –
04-29-00 Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic –
07-31-01 The Very Best Of - Prince 11-20-01 The Rainbow Children - Prince (available as a download through NPGMC 10-16-01) 05-14-02 One Nite Alone… - Prince 12-17-02 One Nite Alone… Live! – Prince and the New Power Generation 01-01-03 Xpectation - Prince (download only) 01-03-03 C-Note – Prince and the New Power Generation (download only) 06-19-03 N.E.W.S - Prince 03-29-04 The Chocolate Invasion (download only, most individual tracks originally available 01) 03-29-04 The Slaughterhouse (download only, individual tracks originally available 01) 03-29-04 Musicology – Prince 03-21-06 3121 - Prince It's worth noting that "the black album" was originally intended to have no 'official' name (just like The Beatles' "white album", whose correct title is really just "The Beatles") and was not going to be 'officially' credited to any particular artist either. However when it was officially released in 1994 it was officially attributed to "Prince" and named the "black album" by WB. . [Edited 7/15/06 5:55am] | |
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BorisFishpaw said: Here's a list of all the Prince/
/NPG etc. albums
in chronological orger, including 'who' they have been officially attributed to... 04-07-78 For You - Prince 10-19-79 Prince - Prince 10-08-80 Dirty Mind - Prince 10-14-81 Controversy - Prince 10-27-82 1999 - Prince 06-25-84 Purple Rain – Prince and the Revolution 04-22-85 Around The World In A Day – Prince and the Revolution 03-31-86 Parade – Prince and the Revolution 03-30-87 Sign O’ The Times - Prince 05-10-88 Lovesexy - Prince 06-20-89 Batman - Prince 08-20-90 Graffiti Bridge - Prince 10-01-91 Diamonds And Pearls – Prince and the New Power Generation 10-13-92 – Prince and the New Power Generation
07-26-93 Goldnigga – New Power Generation 09-14-93 The Hits / The B-Sides - Prince 08-12-94 1-800-NEW-FUNK 08-16-94 Come - Prince 11-22-94 “The Black Album” (originally scheduled for release 12-08-87) 03-27-95 Exodus – New Power Generation 09-26-95 The Gold Experience –
03-19-96 Girl 6 07-09-96 Chaos And Disorder –
11-19-96 Emancipation –
02-14-97 Kamasutra – The NPG Orchestra 01-29-98 Crystal Ball / The Truth –
06-30-98 Newpower Soul – New Power Generation 08-24-99 The Vault… Old Friends 4 Sale - Prince 11-09-99 Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic –
04-29-00 Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic –
07-31-01 The Very Best Of - Prince 11-20-01 The Rainbow Children - Prince (available as a download through NPGMC 10-16-01) 05-14-02 One Nite Alone… - Prince 12-17-02 One Nite Alone… Live! – Prince and the New Power Generation 01-01-03 Xpectation - Prince (download only) 01-03-03 C-Note – Prince and the New Power Generation (download only) 06-19-03 N.E.W.S - Prince 03-29-04 The Chocolate Invasion (download only, most individual tracks originally available 01) 03-29-04 The Slaughterhouse (download only, individual tracks originally available 01) 03-29-04 Musicology – Prince 03-21-06 3121 - Prince It's worth noting that "the black album" was originally intended to have no 'official' name (just like The Beatles' "white album", whose correct title is really just "The Beatles") and was not going to be 'officially' credited to any particular artist either. However when it was officially released in 1994 it was officially attributed to "Prince" and named the "black album" by WB. . [Edited 7/15/06 5:55am] What's your views on the 2 Madhouse albums? I mean, Madhouse is as much a side-project as the NPG, in the sense of massive involvement from Prince if not more-so, IstenSzek listed them and I think was probably right to do so. I think if you're going to include NPG albums in any list then Madhouse should be included also. | |
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metalorange said: What's your views on the 2 Madhouse albums? I mean, Madhouse is as much a side-project as the NPG, in the sense of massive involvement from Prince if not more-so, IstenSzek listed them and I think was probably right to do so. I think if you're going to include NPG albums in any list then Madhouse should be included also. True, the Madhouse albums are just as much 'Prince' albums as 'N.E.W.S' was. Also, I'd say The Time and Sheila E albums are just as much 'Prince' albums as the first two NPG albums (pretty much Prince writing and playing most of it, but with someone else singing lead). So here's an updated list, including all the associated artist albums that feature major Prince input (i.e. he either wrote the whole thing, or at least more than half of it)... 04-07-78 For You - Prince 10-19-79 Prince - Prince 10-08-80 Dirty Mind – Prince 07-29-81 The Time – The Time 10-14-81 Controversy – Prince 08-11-82 Vanity 6 – Vanity 6 08-25-82 What Time Is It? – The Time 10-27-82 1999 – Prince 06-04-84 The Glamorous Life – Sheila E. 06-25-84 Purple Rain – Prince and the Revolution 07-09-84 Ice Cream Castle – The Time 10-01-84 Apollonia 6 – Apollonia 6 04-22-85 Around The World In A Day – Prince and the Revolution 08-19-85 The Family – The Family 08-26-85 Romance 1600 – Sheila E. 03-31-86 Parade – Prince and the Revolution 01-21-87 8 – Madhouse 02-19-87 Sheila E. – Sheila E. 03-30-87 Sign O’ The Times – Prince 05-26-87 Jill Jones – Jill Jones 11-18-87 16 - Madhouse 05-10-88 Lovesexy – Prince 05-24-89 Time Waits For No One – Mavis Staples 06-20-89 Batman – Prince 07-10-90 Pandemonium – The Time 08-20-90 Graffiti Bridge – Prince 02-19-91 Times Squared – Eric Leeds 09-24-91 May 19 1992 – Ingrid Chavez 10-01-91 Diamonds And Pearls – Prince and the New Power Generation 10-13-92 – Prince and the New Power Generation
02-09-93 Carmen Electra – Carmen Electra 07-26-93 Goldnigga – New Power Generation 08-24-93 The Voice – Mavis Staples 09-14-93 The Hits / The B-Sides - Prince 08-12-94 1-800-NEW-FUNK 08-16-94 Come - Prince 11-22-94 “The Black Album” (originally scheduled for release 12-08-87) 03-27-95 Exodus – New Power Generation 09-26-95 The Gold Experience –
11-27-95 Child Of The Sun - Mayte 03-19-96 Girl 6 07-09-96 Chaos And Disorder –
11-19-96 Emancipation –
02-14-97 Kamasutra – The NPG Orchestra 01-29-98 Crystal Ball / The Truth –
06-30-98 Newpower Soul – New Power Generation 09-29-98 Come 2 My House – Chaka Khan 08-24-99 The Vault… Old Friends 4 Sale - Prince 11-09-99 Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic –
04-29-00 Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic –
07-31-01 The Very Best Of - Prince 11-20-01 The Rainbow Children - Prince (available as a download through NPGMC 10-16-01) 05-14-02 One Nite Alone… - Prince 12-17-02 One Nite Alone… Live! – Prince and the New Power Generation 01-01-03 Xpectation - Prince (download only) 01-03-03 C-Note – Prince and the New Power Generation (download only) 06-19-03 N.E.W.S - Prince 03-29-04 The Chocolate Invasion (download only, most individual tracks originally available 01) 03-29-04 The Slaughterhouse (download only, individual tracks originally available 01) 03-29-04 Musicology – Prince 03-21-06 3121 - Prince Just look at how much material he used to release! take 1987 for example... 4 1/2 albums! 4 albums totally written by Prince, and Sheila's album which was 1/2 Prince (one of which was a double... which he origianlly wanted to be a triple!) or 1984... 4 albums almost totally written and played by Prince! [Edited 7/17/06 14:27pm] | |
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Fantastic list, I counted 62.
Here's 2 more I feel should be added onto the list to bring it up to a round 64. How many of y'all have all 64? No.55 08-13-02 One Man Jam – 94 East No.64 03-28-06 Ultimate – Prince | |
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this thread makes my brain hurt.
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Trying to source the 94 East releases
I Can't seem to find the release date for the original Minneapolis Genius – 94 East which first came out in 1986 and was rereleased on 06-30-92 and 01-01-94. Other releases by 94 East include: 09-23-97 Symbolic Begining – 94 East Featuring Prince 03-21-00 94 East: The Artist Formally Known as Prince – 94 East 04-24-01 Legends Collection – 94 East 07-24-01 94 East – 94 East & Prince 08-13-02 One Man Jam – 94 East Featuring Prince 07-27-04 If You Feel Like Dancin’ – 94 East Featuring Prince 07-19-05 Lovin’ Cup – 94 East Featuring Prince Did I miss any others? [Edited 7/17/06 18:04pm] | |
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omnithanos said: Fantastic list, I counted 62.
Here's 2 more I feel should be added onto the list to bring it up to a round 64. How many of y'all have all 64? I have all on CD except for: Time Waits For No One Goldnigga Come 2 My House The Slaughterhouse | |
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I wouldn't count any of those 94 East releases. Other artist albums like
Celine Dion, where he contributed one song, feature more 'Prince' input than 94 East. | |
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