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Thread started 07/30/02 9:37pm

subyduby

does prince reveal too much of himself?Lyrics

since prince writes a lot of the lyrics to his songs, do u think he gives away his personal life too much? there have been some dodgy lyrics that were too shocking, misunderstood, or plain strange. yet, there has been some lyrics like Animal Kingdom,etc. that explains what he feels about certain subjects.

lyrically alone, do u enjoy his work? if u took away his vocals and his music, what do u feel of them? do u think it is wise for someone who is a bit misuderstood to the world to write lyrics that can really cause some commotion?
what types of songs can he write the best? ex: up-tempos
please list the names of the songs that u feel shows his writing skills in that specific genre!

also, if u were very private person, would u write some of the lyrics prince can that just shows his life?
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Reply #1 posted 07/30/02 9:52pm

origmnd

of course he reveals his life in the lyrics---too much...probably not.

I doubt too many could pick up on his subtle meanings anyway.
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Reply #2 posted 07/30/02 9:54pm

AzureStar

subyduby said:

lyrically alone, do u enjoy his work?


Yes.

if u took away his vocals and his music, what do u feel of them?

What would be left?



do u think it is wise for someone who is a bit misuderstood to the world to write lyrics that can really cause some commotion?


not unwise..within his nature.

what types of songs can he write the best? ex: up-tempos


the ones with feeling behind them.
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Reply #3 posted 07/30/02 10:00pm

CandyEyce

I think it's good that he's so open. It gives others a chance to relate to him, and they may not have a lot of other people to relate to. He creates connections with his music.
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Reply #4 posted 07/30/02 10:04pm

jnoel

"lyrically alone, do u enjoy his work?" We're on P org moron and "if u took away his vocals and his music" what do you want to listen then? nuts
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Reply #5 posted 07/30/02 10:15pm

subyduby

jnoel said:

"lyrically alone, do u enjoy his work?" We're on P org moron and "if u took away his vocals and his music" what do you want to listen then? nuts


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love, if u saw the lyrics to the songs before the music and vocals were added in, what would u think of them>
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Reply #6 posted 07/30/02 10:16pm

jnoel

Telepathy my friend smile

AzureStar said:

if u took away his vocals and his music, what do u feel of them?
What would be left?
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Reply #7 posted 07/30/02 10:26pm

jnoel

the answer
& for God's sake don't start threads beginning with "if", this site is gonna explode.., go to a "KOPop" site asking about the meaning of life.
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Reply #8 posted 07/30/02 10:29pm

Vagina

Yes,but it's a good thing. You can Relate to where he's at. Where he's coming from. You can understand more clearly.
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Reply #9 posted 07/30/02 10:29pm

soulsplash

The only time he reveals too much of himself in his lyrics is when he's trying to "teach" us something; otherwise, he's pretty good at being cryptic in his most personal compositions.
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Reply #10 posted 07/30/02 11:35pm

agarze

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I don't really think he reveals too much of himself. Many of his songs tend to be ambivalent - on surface they seem to be songs about love/woman/sex but one can read into them other meaning - religious or relating some of his autobiographical experiences (examples: Wasted Kisses, The Ballad of Dorothy Parker"). Thus, often one can't tell apart fiction from reality.

I do believe that he keeps a lot to himself and only him and others involved in a specific occurence can decipher the true meaning behind.

In his most personal songs ("Hello") he doesn't allude to intimate experiences, rather relates to well-known facts.

On the whole, lyrically he's got his moments of brilliance ("If I Was Your Girlfriend", the aforementioned "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker" or "Pheromone") and most of the times keeps the standard high but one must admit his lyrics happen to be cheesy from time to time.("Free").
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Reply #11 posted 07/31/02 1:18am

Vagina

Are you mad calling FREE Cheesy? My God that is such a GREAT song. He will always be MYSTERIOUS that's for sure. He's wonderful that way. Not too much just ENOUGH. Keeps us Guessing and wanting More. Now how do you spell Intelligent? Brilliant? Superb? P R I N C E! My Dear Watson I think we have something here.
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Reply #12 posted 07/31/02 1:25am

Vagina

And Free's lyrics are very important and significant even more so in these troubled times of ours. Boy you are seriously out of touch with the world and it's problems.
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Reply #13 posted 07/31/02 5:53am

agarze

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Vagina said:

And Free's lyrics are very important and significant even more so in these troubled times of ours. Boy you are seriously out of touch with the world and it's problems.



Dear Vagina

The troubled times are of yours, not ours, so please do not involve me in that. Bombing of WTC (if you refer to this sad event) was an American affair and I do not live in America. The world goes a bit farther than America and if you don't realize that then it is you who is seriously out of touch with the world.

As for the lyrics of "Free" - I have my opinion and you've got yours. And that's fine.
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Reply #14 posted 07/31/02 11:03am

SunFlowerz

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Real artists reveal themselves in their work. It can never be too much. Anything else is simply scratching the surface.
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Reply #15 posted 07/31/02 11:16am

REDFEATHERS

I think what he reveals in his lyrics is his way of dealing with things and I do not think he reveals too much of himself. I would rather listen to his music that has some meaning behind them than a cheesy pop song that babbles on about nothing.

I used to have arguments about this when I was young. I liked Prince, my other friend liked U2 and my other one liked Rick Astley, three totally differnt kinds of music.

Prince? Just the best.
U2? Good but sometimes abit depressing.
Rick Astley?...I'm saying nothing!

Matt! Can you put a spell check on the Org please? It would make my life a hell of a lot easier!
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Reply #16 posted 07/31/02 11:53am

jnoel

So, when people are starving inthe 3rd world , it's "their problem"... everything is connected... "if you don't realize that then it is you who is seriously out of touch with the world" as you wrote.

agarze said:

Dear Vagina

The troubled times are of yours, not ours, so please do not involve me in that. Bombing of WTC (if you refer to this sad event) was an American affair and I do not live in America. The world goes a bit farther than America and if you don't realize that then it is you who is seriously out of touch with the world.

As for the lyrics of "Free" - I have my opinion and you've got yours. And that's fine.
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Reply #17 posted 07/31/02 12:01pm

subyduby

SunFlowerz said:

Real artists reveal themselves in their work. It can never be too much. Anything else is simply scratching the surface.



nice answer and also the answer of the first few sentences of agraze.
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Reply #18 posted 07/31/02 12:07pm

SynthiaRose

I don't think Prince reveals too much of himself. Artists, from film to sculpture to music field, must have the courage to be naked. To what extent is up to the boldness of the artist.

Art, in authentic form, is an elevated, aesthetic expression of ego/self. Otherwise it's just some superficial product, which often is synonymous with art today.
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Reply #19 posted 07/31/02 2:07pm

Abrazo

since prince writes a lot of the lyrics to his songs, do u think he gives away his personal life too much?


hell no... he usually writes way too cryptically to be giving away his personal stuff.

there have been some dodgy lyrics that were too shocking, misunderstood, or plain strange.

that depends entirely on the person listening/reading.
yet, there has been some lyrics like Animal Kingdom,etc. that explains what he feels about certain subjects.

well... if 'Animal Kingdom' REALLY explains why Prince is a vegan... then I am not so sure if he is still aware that there are probably billions of people who live and grow up in cultures where meat and other animal products are simply and have always been a part of their daily normal lifes.

lyrically alone, do u enjoy his work? if u took away his vocals and his music, what do u feel of them?

you can start to see a song in a different way when you really read and think about the lyrics. Can make you like the song more or less, or have no effect.

do u think it is wise for someone who is a bit misuderstood to the world to write lyrics that can really cause some commotion?

if the one writing them is saying wise things then it is no problem. If he is saying nonsense, like many people do then it's not a really good idea.
I think he manages to stay on the safe side...tho' I admit sometimes he crosses the line for people with different opinions then mine.

what types of songs can he write the best? ex: up-tempos
please list the names of the songs that u feel shows his writing skills in that specific genre!


are you doing a school paper on Prince or something?

also, if u were very private person, would u write some of the lyrics prince can that just shows his life?


what the hell kind of question is that? I don't know sorry.
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Reply #20 posted 08/02/02 9:25pm

grandebelle

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Prince talks to the world through his music. does he reveal too much? no. lots of what he reveals has been felt by lots of us. then, somethings we will never understand unless he tells us himself. then there r things only he could have experienced in some songs...however, now that i rethink this, i feel i can understand prince pretty well by his MUSIC. it does make one feel close. but it's probobly more than the music? and yes, some of his songs are confusing, and not to everyones beliefs. there is a strong tendency to sway people and a strong tendency for people to b swayed and they ARE swayed by his lyrics. very definately. it depends on the person listening, and how cryptic prince is with the lyrics. some songs r very simple to understand. listing all these different variations on the theme as which r cryptic, simple, confusing, etc. would tale too long, plus everyone see's his songs differently.
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