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Thread started 07/12/06 6:47pm

Anx

So let's talk about RED Distribution...

...and the news that all NPG Music product will be distributed by them now.

What does this mean?

Doesn't Prince release all his music through NPG, distributing it through all these big one-shot record deals? Is he going for a smaller distributor for his next project(s), and might this herald another "underground" phase where the music is more for himself and the fans than for courting the mainstream masses?

OR

Does this just mean RED will be hawking all the tamboraccas and purple fun-fur notebooks left over from NPGMC? lol

I'm a little ignorant about the business part of music, so maybe some of you can put this latest thing into perspective for me. Personally, I find it interesting and kinda hopeful that a less monolithic entity than usual has been chosen to distribute NPG product...kinda harkens back to the days of "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World" being released as an indie single, and all the shuffling around post-Rave/pre-Musicology.

Interesting. Someone break it down for me in small words, like on Sesame Street. lol
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Reply #1 posted 07/12/06 6:56pm

thesexofit

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i thought "the most beutiful....." was released on bell records? I could be wrong?


Prince really needs a crystal ball 2. Anyway.....
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Reply #2 posted 07/12/06 6:56pm

BSK3601

that's the wrong NPG Music...

read this link
http://www.fmqb.com/artic...?id=229775


RED Distribution announces it has finalized exclusive distribution agreements with NPG Music and Rust Records. NPG Music features music from all corners of the Latin and World music stages, while Rust Records is an expanding Rock and Country label.


here's one of their releases...
http://www.jr.com/JRProdu...=nsa&nsa=1

here's another...
http://www.dealtime.com/x...8444000593
[Edited 7/12/06 18:59pm]
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Reply #3 posted 07/12/06 6:58pm

Anx

BSK3601 said:

that's the wrong NPG Music...

read this link
http://www.fmqb.com/artic...?id=229775


RED Distribution announces it has finalized exclusive distribution agreements with NPG Music and Rust Records. NPG Music features music from all corners of the Latin and World music stages, while Rust Records is an expanding Rock and Country label.


here's one of their releases...
http://www.jr.com/JRProdu...=nsa&nsa=1


So the information going out in all the mainstream media (I just read it in Yahoo! News) is a misunderstanding?
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Reply #4 posted 07/12/06 6:58pm

Anx

thesexofit said:

i thought "the most beutiful....." was released on bell records? I could be wrong?


Prince really needs a crystal ball 2. Anyway.....


yeah, it was, but that's what i meant. it wasn't a biggie like WB or Universal or Arista, etc.
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Reply #5 posted 07/12/06 7:01pm

thesexofit

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Anx said:

thesexofit said:

i thought "the most beutiful....." was released on bell records? I could be wrong?


Prince really needs a crystal ball 2. Anyway.....


yeah, it was, but that's what i meant. it wasn't a biggie like WB or Universal or Arista, etc.




There isn't any indies left for prince to go to is there? Is scotti bros still about? Is bell still about?


Who knows what prince is up to? Nothing has changed there then lol
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Reply #6 posted 07/12/06 7:04pm

BSK3601

Anx said:

BSK3601 said:

that's the wrong NPG Music...

read this link
http://www.fmqb.com/artic...?id=229775



here's one of their releases...
http://www.jr.com/JRProdu...=nsa&nsa=1


So the information going out in all the mainstream media (I just read it in Yahoo! News) is a misunderstanding?


shrug I think someone jumped the gun and reported something that wasn't true. If you notice, Prince's camp didn't confirm that info. And Red Distribution probably would have made a bigger deal out of it if they were given exclusive distribution to all things Prince. I think the writer just assumed that NPG Music was the same... But who knows...
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Reply #7 posted 07/12/06 7:19pm

Anx

BSK3601 said:

Anx said:



So the information going out in all the mainstream media (I just read it in Yahoo! News) is a misunderstanding?


shrug I think someone jumped the gun and reported something that wasn't true. If you notice, Prince's camp didn't confirm that info. And Red Distribution probably would have made a bigger deal out of it if they were given exclusive distribution to all things Prince. I think the writer just assumed that NPG Music was the same... But who knows...


i hope this other NPG Music doesn't sue too. lol
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Reply #8 posted 07/12/06 7:24pm

Imago

this thread disbelief
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Reply #9 posted 07/12/06 7:31pm

Anx

Imago said:

this thread disbelief


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Reply #10 posted 07/12/06 7:31pm

Imago

Anx said:

Imago said:

this thread disbelief



lol
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Reply #11 posted 07/13/06 5:46am

CandaceS

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Anx said:

BSK3601 said:



shrug I think someone jumped the gun and reported something that wasn't true. If you notice, Prince's camp didn't confirm that info. And Red Distribution probably would have made a bigger deal out of it if they were given exclusive distribution to all things Prince. I think the writer just assumed that NPG Music was the same... But who knows...


i hope this other NPG Music doesn't sue too. lol


Maybe Prince should sue THEM! I don't see them anywhere in the U.S. trademark database, how dare they use "NPG Music!" After all, I might get confused and think those other CD's were released by Prince! mad





razz
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Reply #12 posted 07/13/06 6:26am

XxAxX

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what's all this fuss about RED distribution? confuse if they don't like the color why don't they paint it blue? just my 2c
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Reply #13 posted 07/13/06 7:19am

booyah

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BSK3601 said:

here's one of their releases...
http://www.jr.com/JRProdu...=nsa&nsa=1


Maybe this is the all-Spanish album that Te Amo Corazon was supposed to appear on before he said it wasn't representative of the whole album smile
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Reply #14 posted 07/13/06 7:56am

jone70

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BSK3601 said:

that's the wrong NPG Music...



RED Distribution announces it has finalized exclusive distribution agreements with NPG Music and Rust Records. NPG Music features music from all corners of the Latin and World music stages, while Rust Records is an expanding Rock and Country label.





*cross post from Minneapolis Paper Reports... thread in NPG Forum*

Maybe it has something to do with Liza Hernandez (aka Ms. Panama)? Isn't that her voice on Lolita, speaking in Spanish?

Or maybe it has something to do with those new age type of "audio DVDs" Mani's Gamillah website is selling: http://www.gamillah.org/n...rhythm.asp
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #15 posted 07/13/06 8:05am

jone70

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CandaceS said:

Anx said:



i hope this other NPG Music doesn't sue too. lol


Maybe Prince should sue THEM! I don't see them anywhere in the U.S. trademark database, how dare they use "NPG Music!" After all, I might get confused and think those other CD's were released by Prince! mad





razz



Yeah, that's what I think too! Sue 'em Princey! biggrin

lol
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #16 posted 07/13/06 9:51am

superspaceboy

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See, what I can't understand is WHY Prince ffels the need to go through the big guys at all. Why not just release it through his own site? Digital and Hard copies. Surely, he has enough funds to do this in-house. He has a studio...why not a CD and Vinyl & Graphics pressing machine? He'd have to hire staff to operate this stuff pre and post new album and then keep a skeleton crew for the lean months. And if a label or whatever wants to distribute his music, they gotta buy it in bulk from him and resell it to the public.

I know he wants to get his music out to the masses. Personally I think that point is moot. It's his hard core fans that really want the music anyway. Radio isn't going to play him, so why try and go against the grain that doesn't want you anyways. If you want Prince's music, you have to get it from him. Besides there's something about underground music that makes people wnat to seek it out.

This of course is the old arguement of what his fans think he should do and what he wants to do. I just think it's a no brainer.

Here's another Question...after all this time, you think he'd have his OWN distribution channel to the wrekas.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #17 posted 07/13/06 9:58am

Doozer

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For what it's worth, this is the logo on Red's website for "NPG Music" -- nothing like the existing NPG logos we've all seen:

Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/
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Reply #18 posted 07/13/06 10:06am

Anx

Doozer said:

For what it's worth, this is the logo on Red's website for "NPG Music" -- nothing like the existing NPG logos we've all seen:



there was a "retro" kid's shirt in the NPG online store that had a logo not entirely different from this. granted, though - it's not the pointy NPG logo we're used to seeing.
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Reply #19 posted 07/13/06 10:12am

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Tower Records has the following album released on 7/11 on "NPG Records":

http://www.towerrecords.c...us+Artists

Sure sounds like there's yet another NPG out there for HM Publishing to sue.
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Reply #20 posted 07/13/06 10:14am

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And if you do a search on Tower Records' site for "NPG Music", you get a ton of Latin releases:

http://www.towerrecords.c...g%20music&
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Reply #21 posted 07/13/06 10:25am

Doozer

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Anx said:

Doozer said:

For what it's worth, this is the logo on Red's website for "NPG Music" -- nothing like the existing NPG logos we've all seen:



there was a "retro" kid's shirt in the NPG online store that had a logo not entirely different from this. granted, though - it's not the pointy NPG logo we're used to seeing.


There is a slight chance that you spent a little too much time in NPG retail.

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Reply #22 posted 07/13/06 11:06am

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I skimmed through this thread, the links, and the one in NPG Forum again quickly--but I didn't find the answer to this:

Is the NPG in NPG Music definitely an acronym for New Power Generation or is it for something else?

Cause if it stands for something else, then it seems even less probable that Prince is associated with it...but then again, who knows? Stranger things have happened.
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #23 posted 07/13/06 11:28am

Doozer

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jone70 said:

I skimmed through this thread, the links, and the one in NPG Forum again quickly--but I didn't find the answer to this:

Is the NPG in NPG Music definitely an acronym for New Power Generation or is it for something else?

Cause if it stands for something else, then it seems even less probable that Prince is associated with it...but then again, who knows? Stranger things have happened.


I would bet that Prince has nothing to do with the "NPG Music" label. It sure seems like a small Indie label that Red Distribution just picked up, and some folks jumped the gun assuming that the label was Prince's. Prince's label is NPG Records.

Do a search on amazon.com for "npg music" and you'll find some of Prince's stuff mixed in (because of "NPG") but mostly it's Spanish/Latin/Reggae CDs and DVDs with barely dressed women, all on "NPG Music."
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Reply #24 posted 07/13/06 10:07pm

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booyah said:

BSK3601 said:

here's one of their releases...
http://www.jr.com/JRProdu...=nsa&nsa=1


Maybe this is the all-Spanish album that Te Amo Corazon was supposed to appear on before he said it wasn't representative of the whole album smile


lol

(Imagine a whole album of TAC-like songs?!)
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Reply #25 posted 07/13/06 11:01pm

Serena

I just noticed that the new Fury T-shirt has an 'NPG Apparel' tag in it. None of the older stuff does.
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Reply #26 posted 07/16/06 12:21am

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thesexofit said:

Anx said:



yeah, it was, but that's what i meant. it wasn't a biggie like WB or Universal or Arista, etc.




There isn't any indies left for prince to go to is there? Is scotti bros still about? Is bell still about?


Who knows what prince is up to? Nothing has changed there then lol




No they aren't, Jive/ZLG bought them out...
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Reply #27 posted 07/16/06 10:29am

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superspaceboy said:

See, what I can't understand is WHY Prince ffels the need to go through the big guys at all. Why not just release it through his own site? Digital and Hard copies. Surely, he has enough funds to do this in-house. He has a studio...why not a CD and Vinyl & Graphics pressing machine? He'd have to hire staff to operate this stuff pre and post new album and then keep a skeleton crew for the lean months. And if a label or whatever wants to distribute his music, they gotta buy it in bulk from him and resell it to the public.

I know he wants to get his music out to the masses. Personally I think that point is moot. It's his hard core fans that really want the music anyway. Radio isn't going to play him, so why try and go against the grain that doesn't want you anyways. If you want Prince's music, you have to get it from him. Besides there's something about underground music that makes people wnat to seek it out.

This of course is the old arguement of what his fans think he should do and what he wants to do. I just think it's a no brainer.

Here's another Question...after all this time, you think he'd have his OWN distribution channel to the wrekas.



it amazes me that more folks dont follow aimee mann's business plan. her albums sell well, she makes a killing on touring and she gets the bulk of the profits...

and she even offers other artists to be a part of it, yet no big (will, relatively speaking) names have followed suit.

http://www.unitedmusician...index.html


(oopsies...just noticed marc cohn has signed on to united musicians...)
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Reply #28 posted 07/16/06 10:56am

ladygirl99

superspaceboy said:

See, what I can't understand is WHY Prince ffels the need to go through the big guys at all. Why not just release it through his own site? Digital and Hard copies. Surely, he has enough funds to do this in-house. He has a studio...why not a CD and Vinyl & Graphics pressing machine? He'd have to hire staff to operate this stuff pre and post new album and then keep a skeleton crew for the lean months. And if a label or whatever wants to distribute his music, they gotta buy it in bulk from him and resell it to the public.

I know he wants to get his music out to the masses. Personally I think that point is moot. It's his hard core fans that really want the music anyway. Radio isn't going to play him, so why try and go against the grain that doesn't want you anyways. If you want Prince's music, you have to get it from him. Besides there's something about underground music that makes people wnat to seek it out.

This of course is the old arguement of what his fans think he should do and what he wants to do. I just think it's a no brainer.

Here's another Question...after all this time, you think he'd have his OWN distribution channel to the wrekas.

Well said post Superspaceboy and I agreed 100%.
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