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Thread started 08/10/02 8:26pm

Nep2nes

A Rant About Rave un2 The Joy Shitastic

Although 90% of Prince's output has been freaking great,worship, I must say that I am always surprised 2 c people name Chaos and Disorder as their least favorite release.

It seems 2 ME that Rave is the worst.

This album is just so emotionally empty 4 me. There's nothing funky about it...except maybe Prettyman..but who wants that when there's "The Work"?

And Prince tries 2 make it an all-rock album but there's no hard edge 2 it...Hans Buff even said it was mostly rock-oriented...yet Prince sounds stifled on guitar. I can't stand it. "STOP HOLDING BACK!" I feel like saying. wink

Now we've chalked its shittiness up 2 the fact that it was a commercial album and P was trying 2 cater 2 the younger people who may have rediscovered his music thru that album BUT I've only heard of maybe 2 people who ever started liking him because of that album! YUCK!!! It sickens me 2 think there r albums like Gold or freaking Old Friends 4 Sale that people should b listening 2. disbelief But no, he promotes a shit album. I'd even rather have him promote TRC than that.

And TRL seemed like such a waste of a TV appearance. Prince has said himself in a radio interview "MTV hates me"...so what's up with that? The mere fact that Carson Daly is a goon should have made Prince reconsider that move.

I've probably mentioned how I will sometimes listen 2 it just because it looks at me with those sad, lonely eyes saying "Play me..please play me"...or "Blow the dust off me" which sounds somewhat sexual but anyway...I can't play this album anymore!


Thanx 4 listening...I'll get off the couch now...
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Reply #1 posted 08/10/02 8:35pm

CherrieMoonKis
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uhhh, eye liked it Nep2nes. it wasn't an album that u'd instantly liked becuz u had 2 listen 2 what "HE" was SAYIN...eye like the lyrics...the music isn't all that damn bad...gee...i dunno mayB eye just believe n LISTENING 2 what "HE"'s sayin...not that u don't of course...oh & um...hadn't "HE" just broken up with the love of "HIS" life around that tyme barf Yeh...i think so...if u LISTEN 2 what lil man's sayin'...u can hear the emotion in the song.
"i" am 1 of those PRINCE fam's that study his music as well as enjoy it... razz

(remember ya'll:it ain't ova!!!)
worship God, i luv THAT MAN worship
peace & wildsign
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Reply #2 posted 08/10/02 8:41pm

Nep2nes

CherrieMoonKisses said:

uhhh, eye liked it Nep2nes. it wasn't an album that u'd instantly liked becuz u had 2 listen 2 what "HE" was SAYIN...eye like the lyrics...the music isn't all that damn bad...gee...i dunno mayB eye just believe n LISTENING 2 what "HE"'s sayin...not that u don't of course...oh & um...hadn't "HE" just broken up with the love of "HIS" life around that tyme barf Yeh...i think so...if u LISTEN 2 what lil man's sayin'...u can hear the emotion in the song.
"i" am 1 of those PRINCE fam's that study his music as well as enjoy it... razz

(remember ya'll:it ain't ova!!!)
worship God, i luv THAT MAN worship


Why do u put "he" in all caps? Would u do that 4 God?


shrug Ur entitled 2 ur opinion...
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Reply #3 posted 08/10/02 8:51pm

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as a matter of fact, that was a good observation nep2nes...but GOD doesn't derserve these things: " " so eye guess eye'll just capitalize GOD from now on...
thanx for the scrutiny razz

(remember ya'll:it ain't ova!!!)
nod GOD (happy nep2nes?) I luv that man nod
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Reply #4 posted 08/10/02 9:18pm

Nep2nes

CherrieMoonKisses said:

as a matter of fact, that was a good observation nep2nes...but GOD doesn't derserve these things: " " so eye guess eye'll just capitalize GOD from now on...
thanx for the scrutiny razz

(remember ya'll:it ain't ova!!!)
nod GOD (happy nep2nes?) I luv that man nod


Just curious...u don't have 2 start capitalizing because I told u 2.

May I steal ur emoticon? razz
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Reply #5 posted 08/10/02 9:19pm

purpleMAN

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yea i see what you're sayin Nep but i do not hate it at all. true, a lot of it is crap but the more i listen to it, the easier it is to listen to. it was all hyped up on love4oneanother.com to be a step back to his roots and his sound of days past or whatever but i was not impressed for a long while.

the remix album was like a spoonful of sugar and made the medicine of the original go down alot easier. but it is still one of his lesser than great albums IMO.

and, correct me if i'm wrong CMK, but didnt he and Mayte split after "Rave"???
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shut up already...

DAMN!
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Reply #6 posted 08/10/02 9:23pm

Nep2nes

purpleMAN said:

yea i see what you're sayin Nep but i do not hate it at all. true, a lot of it is crap but the more i listen to it, the easier it is to listen to. it was all hyped up on love4oneanother.com to be a step back to his roots and his sound of days past or whatever but i was not impressed for a long while.

the remix album was like a spoonful of sugar and made the medicine of the original go down alot easier. but it is still one of his lesser than great albums IMO.

and, correct me if i'm wrong CMK, but didnt he and Mayte split after "Rave"???


Well, Im not keepin' tabs on Prince's personal life the way she is but all I know is I take in2 account the sounds flowing in2 my ears-nothing much else.

I still believe the worst Prince album is better than the best B2K, N Sync, or Blink 182 album...
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Reply #7 posted 08/10/02 10:17pm

DMSR

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Undisputed is undisputably the worst song prince has ever recorded...ever. Awful and boring and moronic lyrics.
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Reply #8 posted 08/10/02 10:58pm

Nep2nes

DMSR said:

Undisputed is undisputably the worst song prince has ever recorded...ever. Awful and boring and moronic lyrics.


I thought that was actually one of the more "ok" ones from Rave.

The Sun, Moon, And Stars was just silly and boring. Hot Wit U was so lame..plus the flame sound scared me half 2 death when I had it cranked up after Segue...lol!
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Reply #9 posted 08/11/02 1:31am

jnoel

there were at least 5 singles waiting-to-be-hits:
- Hot with u, too predictabble but...
- So far so pleased(love it)
- Baby knows
- The sun, ...
- Wherever you go
& 1 great song: I love U but...
& 4 good songs: Rave, Tangerine, Strange but true,Manowar

The productions sucks, it lacks of "space"
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Reply #10 posted 08/11/02 2:17am

ecnirpnz

I agree Nep2nes.

I couldn't wait to buy Rave after hearing The Greatest Romance...I bought it, read all the song titles wondering what they were like, got all excited...

I hardly listen to it nowdays. It was such a disappoint for me.

I like TGRES and I Love U But I Don't Trust U...but songs like Hot Wit U, The Sun, The Moon And Stars, Every day Is A Winding Road, Silly Game, Wherever U Go Whatever U Do leave a lot to be desired!
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Reply #11 posted 08/11/02 10:26pm

PFunkjazz

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yeeah, NEps the shittiness just leaps out at me
every tiem i fondle a copy for purchas. Still no go


Nice Tune "Killing Floor". I also like Albert King's version.

http://www.allmusic.com/c...=FTRALBUMS

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Reply #12 posted 08/11/02 11:59pm

June7

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I still groove 2 it every now and again...

It's not the worst album he's done, I did hate "Everyday Is A Winding Road", tho.

"Baby Knows" was the jam on that one, and "Hot Wit U", "Sun Moon,Stars..", "So Far, So Pleased" and "PrettyMan" were slammin'!

I liked it, anyway. biggrin
[PRINCE 4EVER!]

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Reply #13 posted 08/12/02 12:32am

origmnd

If U can't tolerate the Rave CD then edit the throwaways and U have 45 minutes of great tracks...same with NPS
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Reply #14 posted 08/12/02 12:39am

bkw

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It was ok but really not worthy of him.

That's all I've got to say. razz
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #15 posted 08/12/02 12:48am

DavidEye

DMSR said:

Undisputed is undisputably the worst song prince has ever recorded...ever. Awful and boring and moronic lyrics.


Well,it's better than "We Gets Up",although that's not saying much...lol...
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Reply #16 posted 08/12/02 1:06am

bkw

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fart
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #17 posted 08/12/02 7:22am

herbthe4

DMSR said:

Undisputed is undisputably the worst song prince has ever recorded...ever. Awful and boring and moronic lyrics.


I'll dispute that. It's my favorite track on the record, so go figure.

I like:

Undisputed
Prettyman
Hot With U (Nasty Girl remix)
Wherever U go, Whatever U do
Strange but True

Shoot me.
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Reply #18 posted 08/12/02 7:54am

RandomDuck

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Shitastic is so harsh...I prefer Craptastic...lol. wink

I remember I bought this cd during my 'non-Prince fan' years (1996-2001). I only bought it cause there was a large poster of it up in the Virgin megastore in Times square, NYC and I'd seen him introducing TLC at the MTV awards. And I thought 'why not, I'll give Prince another go' and I was promptly disappointed by it. IMO it was so bland and forgettable. So I forgot about Prince for another 2 years...
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Reply #19 posted 08/12/02 8:17am

PFunkjazz

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bkw said:

fart


eek
farting w/out an asshole is that like "talking shit"?
question
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Reply #20 posted 08/12/02 2:39pm

AmoebaOfDoom

Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic was a lot better than Rave Un2.
When I bought Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic I was only familiar with the title track through the classic small club performance from 88, so I hated the album version. At least Rave In2 had some life to it (but still could've been better). Beautiful Strange is great (though I prefer the original video version). He should've dropped Silly Game instead of Strange But True though. And the whole album would benefit from a bit of re-sequencing.
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Reply #21 posted 08/12/02 3:02pm

Revolution

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Disagree with 90% of the reviews of
this CD. Prob not HIS best effort, but
it's still the best CD that came out
that year.
Hot Wit U, Baby Knows, I Love U...,
Undisputed, So Far..., Man O'War,
Wherever U Go..., The Greatest Romance...
All Slammin'...That's almost the
whole freakin' CD!!!
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #22 posted 08/12/02 3:07pm

marilyn

AmoebaOfDoom said:

Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic was a lot better than Rave Un2.
When I bought Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic I was only familiar with the title track through the classic small club performance from 88, so I hated the album version. At least Rave In2 had some life to it (but still could've been better). Beautiful Strange is great (though I prefer the original video version). He should've dropped Silly Game instead of Strange But True though. And the whole album would benefit from a bit of re-sequencing.


My copy of RaveIn2 is still sealed in it's wrap, i.e. I haven't listened to it.

Is this a sin? Will I be damned 4eva and go to HELL? err
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Reply #23 posted 08/12/02 3:13pm

DJEmale

Screw RAVE...I'm more interested in your pic. Damn girl U cute. smile


Sorry...had to get that off my chest. rolleyes

Forgiveness please?
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Reply #24 posted 08/12/02 3:25pm

JamesMarshallH
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It's about what your ears are listening for. I love this disc. Two words that haunt me and I just keep listening to it over and over; Beautiful Strange.
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Reply #25 posted 08/12/02 3:35pm

Nep2nes

DJEmale said:

Screw RAVE...I'm more interested in your pic. Damn girl U cute. smile


Sorry...had to get that off my chest. rolleyes

Forgiveness please?


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Reply #26 posted 08/12/02 3:37pm

Nep2nes

Ravein2---was that part of the music club last year? It sounds like y'all really like it. If that's the case I'm going 2 have 2 find it somewhere.

*strokes chin pensively*...yyyeeep
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Reply #27 posted 08/12/02 3:37pm

aw35077

since you guys hate your rave unto the joy fantastic cd would someone please mail me their cd? I'm serious.
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Reply #28 posted 08/12/02 3:40pm

Revolution

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Nep2nes said:

Ravein2---was that part of the music club last year? It sounds like y'all really like it. If that's the case I'm going 2 have 2 find it somewhere.

*strokes chin pensively*...yyyeeep


Yep...it was available at the Celly also...
has remixes of the songs:

Undisputed (Moneyapolis mix)
Hot Wit U (Nasty Girl mix)
Man O'War (Remix)
and...Beautiful Strange!!
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #29 posted 08/12/02 3:40pm

JamesMarshallH
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Nep2nes said:

Ravein2---was that part of the music club last year? It sounds like y'all really like it. If that's the case I'm going 2 have 2 find it somewhere.

*strokes chin pensively*...yyyeeep


Yes it was the first disc from the NPGMC with "Beautiful Strange"
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