Have you guys noticed this shift in conciousness regarding some of Prince's women characters in his songs? Like in the Morning Papers it is a story about an older man falling for a younger girl and remember Madhouse and jailbait and R U legal yet and all that? She's just a baby?

Now he has sung in Lolita about how she is much too young to get with him? Also in "Incense and Candles" he sings about how he needs a woman "mature and grown"?

I wonder why he has changed his views?

Krystal666 said:

He matured and grew up to?

Trust me to write "to" where "too" is the correct one.

lolita is about lust, morning papers is about love. biiig difference

1. P is older and wiser now.
2. His faith would prohibit sex outside of marriage

thepope2the9s said:

True, but before he was JW. Didn't he have sex before marriage?

theghostoftonym said:

Great point. But lust isn't really all that bad is it? I mean love is obviously stronger, more intense and rewarding but lust is also a part of the human experience isn't it?

I love both songs! for different reasons though

Krystal666 said:

well, lust is considered one of the Seven Deadly Sins...if you ascribe to that sort of thing...

jone70 said:

I see. Lust can be bad...when you start to objectify people...but can't lust also be like a very intense crush...like you actually liking the person very much and enjoy being in their presence but also have a strong sexual attraction to them? You don't know them well enough to "love" them yet...you may not really even know them that much..but you want to know them...that would be lust except I don't see it being a harmful thing. That kind of "lust" can energize you and make you feel alive can't it?

thepope2the9s said:

so does that mean he is faithful to mani, or whomever he is currently with.
how do jw's feel about infedelity

Because when he was singing morning papers n all he was genuine and singing w/Mayte on the mind.

Now he's singing w/a jealous Mani on the mind.....

.....would be my guess.

Krystal666 said:

Yes. Lust is not all bad. Lustful feelings can easily lead to love. In fact, lust is a FORM of love, not its antithesis.

It's perfectly natural to feel lust. It only becomes a problem if you go to extremes, either of indulging every lustful impulse, or denying every impulse.

luv4all7 said:

Exactly - he'll publicly crave a younger girl (or twins) at a later date, just right now he feels obliged to pander to the whole Jehovah bollocks and the very faded Mani-myth - I mean seriously, just listen to the Style lyrics from '96 (and the whole of the 2nd Emancipation disk) and then look what happened just a couple of years later in '98/'99 in terms of replacing her with that slapper Mani...

What goes around comes around...

theghostoftonym said:

HUGE difference. not a very good song comparison here, imo.

tripp said:

Whenever someone questions his stance on monogomy I just remember the interview in 1999 where he said..."Let's just say I'm monogomous with God"

To me its pretty much the same thing. I predict Lolita will make a cheater out of him and then later he'll write a song where about how he wouldn't usually fall, but this time it's real love. This is usually how the story ends so I would say it's sort of a "Curious Child" situation.

padawan said:

Well said.

btw I was only comparing the two songs and such because Prince seemed to date alot of younger women in the past (anna g, Mayte..ect...) and he kinda had this "age ain't nothing but a number" kinda view...now he is with Mani..while she is younger than him she is still older than those other girls and seems very mature and like a woman not a girl. I'm just making the comparison because he used to kinda be an advocate for older man/younger women relationships and now in Lolita it sounds like a firm stance against going for a woman much too young and in insence and candles sings for a woman NOT to take off her clothes. It just seems he has different views of women now...that is all I was saying and want to know if anyone eles noticed this.