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BPM counts for Prince records?? Hello all,
Longtime lurker, first time poster... I'm DJing the Lovesexy DC Prince party this weekend and although I typically play a lot of Prince in my sets, I've never done an entire night of Prince so I'm pretty excited! I'm wondering if anyone has ever done BPM (beats per minute) counts for any albums? I hate to try to blend "Just As Long As We're Together" with "Hide The Bone" on the fly and they don't even come CLOSE to matching.... Any help would be greatly appreciated. | |
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Curt said: Hello all,
Longtime lurker, first time poster... I'm DJing the Lovesexy DC Prince party this weekend and although I typically play a lot of Prince in my sets, I've never done an entire night of Prince so I'm pretty excited! I'm wondering if anyone has ever done BPM (beats per minute) counts for any albums? I hate to try to blend "Just As Long As We're Together" with "Hide The Bone" on the fly and they don't even come CLOSE to matching.... Any help would be greatly appreciated. do me a favor, dont if you tried to mix those 2 records? step away from the decks. | |
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Finess said: do me a favor, dont if you tried to mix those 2 records? step away from the decks.
 aw c'mon, help the poor dude out so he won't make the same mistake...
but yeah: "just as long..." and "hide the bone"? i can't even begin to imagine those two songs being possible to blend together and be cohesive, and i ain't a dj.  | |
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Finess said: Curt said: Hello all,
Longtime lurker, first time poster... I'm DJing the Lovesexy DC Prince party this weekend and although I typically play a lot of Prince in my sets, I've never done an entire night of Prince so I'm pretty excited! I'm wondering if anyone has ever done BPM (beats per minute) counts for any albums? I hate to try to blend "Just As Long As We're Together" with "Hide The Bone" on the fly and they don't even come CLOSE to matching.... Any help would be greatly appreciated. do me a favor, dont if you tried to mix those 2 records? step away from the decks. it was a joke...  | |
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I know "Erotic City" is 125 and "Gett off" is 101. Those are the only 2 I know off hand. Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for. | |
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Curt said: Finess said: do me a favor, dont if you tried to mix those 2 records? step away from the decks. it was a joke... dont try ta save yaself you was serious as fuck.. | |
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Finess said: Curt said: it was a joke... dont try ta save yaself you was serious as fuck.. nah man. These were just the first two records that popped into my head that I know I"m gonna play... I play a lot of disco and consistently work "Just as long.." in my sets from time to time. but NEVER play Hide the Bone, but the organizers tell me it's a crowd favorite?? | |
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your a DJ and you are asking people on a fan site how to beatmatch a couple of jams ??  [Edited 6/29/06 14:04pm] | |
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prettymansson said: your a DJ and you are asking people on a fan site how to beatmatch a couple of jams ??
[Edited 6/29/06 14:04pm] no, curt's just asking the BPMs of some stuff so he'll know which songs will pair well with each other. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: prettymansson said: your a DJ and you are asking people on a fan site how to beatmatch a couple of jams ??
[Edited 6/29/06 14:04pm] no, curt's just asking the BPMs of some stuff so he'll know which songs will pair well with each other. ´that should be an instinctive thing for someone that knows the music to do...dont you know what it would sound like if you played erotic city and mixed in the intro to kiss (the guitar lick) and then the rest of the song ??? sounds like A B C stuff to me...  | |
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prettymansson said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: no, curt's just asking the BPMs of some stuff so he'll know which songs will pair well with each other. ´that should be an instinctive thing for someone that knows the music to do...dont you know what it would sound like if you played erotic city and mixed in the intro to kiss (the guitar lick) and then the rest of the song ??? sounds like A B C stuff to me... it's not quite that easy... | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: prettymansson said: ´that should be an instinctive thing for someone that knows the music to do...dont you know what it would sound like if you played erotic city and mixed in the intro to kiss (the guitar lick) and then the rest of the song ??? sounds like A B C stuff to me... it's not quite that easy... THANK YOU!! It's like this, you may know every single riff of Lady Cab Driver, but it's not until you try playing together with Nasty Girl do you realize that these two songs not only have the same BPM, but also are in the same key which makes them blend seamlessly on the dancefloor. Prince's catalog is just WAY too vast to have experimented with all of the possible combinations of songs that could blend into one another. So in order to come up with some blends that I may not have thought could work, a good place to start is to look at the BPM's and maybe come up with a few interesting tracks that you wouldn't normally hear back to back. Prettymanson, yes, songs that get a lot of play like Erotic City and Kiss are totally instinctive about how to blend them together, but I'm not planning on playing 4 hours of the hits... the "fans" would kill me  | |
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I thought this was a good idea for a thread. I'd be interested in BPM's of Prince songs too but I guess nobody knows them. Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for. | |
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Finess said: Curt said: Hello all,
Longtime lurker, first time poster... I'm DJing the Lovesexy DC Prince party this weekend and although I typically play a lot of Prince in my sets, I've never done an entire night of Prince so I'm pretty excited! I'm wondering if anyone has ever done BPM (beats per minute) counts for any albums? I hate to try to blend "Just As Long As We're Together" with "Hide The Bone" on the fly and they don't even come CLOSE to matching.... Any help would be greatly appreciated. do me a favor, dont if you tried to mix those 2 records? step away from the decks. He didn't say he wanted to mix those two songs together. I think he was saying he needed help so that something like that wouldn't happen. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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prettymansson said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: no, curt's just asking the BPMs of some stuff so he'll know which songs will pair well with each other. ´that should be an instinctive thing for someone that knows the music to do...dont you know what it would sound like if you played erotic city and mixed in the intro to kiss (the guitar lick) and then the rest of the song ??? sounds like A B C stuff to me... Jeez we're really giving a first time poster a nice welcome eh? Did ya read his post? He DOES dj but has never done a full on Prince set. He's just asking for a few tips. I have done a Prince set before and it not that easy. Esp if you want to beatmatch the songs. Give the guy a break. It's not like this is the first time someone has asked this question. AND the Lovesexy Party is a big deal. He just wants folks to enjoy them selves on the dance floor. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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get some mastering software or a Tap program to measure the tempo of each song
And if the tempo doesn't match but its in the same key... you can always slow down the song to the fit tempo.... than speed it up after the merge... My father use to be a DJ... lol I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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just use your ears... shit | |
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Finess said: just use your ears... shit
thats how it use to be done... damn youngis... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: Finess said: just use your ears... shit
thats how it use to be done... damn youngis... ive been a dj for over 30 years, and thats how i learned and thats how i still do it, shit back in my day we had no pitch control. | |
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Depending on BPMs is like a cashier not being able to give out correct change when the electricity goes off.
Knowing what sounds good together really is something that takes having an ear for. Sometimes BPMs help but I have found a lot of times, that even two records that claim to have the same BPM require speeding up or slowing down. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: get some mastering software or a Tap program to measure the tempo of each song
And if the tempo doesn't match but its in the same key... you can always slow down the song to the fit tempo.... than speed it up after the merge... My father use to be a DJ... lol Only if they're not too far apart because you don't want one song sounding like Alvin and the Chipmunks when you fade it in. Also, once the blend has been made, it's best to gradually slow down or speed up little by little during the song so it's not noticeable.Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Prince Loose 126
Prince Purple Medley 126 Prince Uptown 127 Prince When Doves Cry 127 Prince Endorphinmachine 118 Prince Lemon Crush 121 Prince Sexy Dancer 121 Prince Raspberry Beret 121 Prince Sexy Dancer 121 Prince Lady Cab Driver 122 Prince Lets Work 122 Prince Lovesexy 123 Prince 319 120 Prince Irresisible Bitch 126 Prince Loose 126 Prince When Doves Cry 126 Prince Thieves In The Temple 130 Prince Dirty Mind 131 Prince Batdance 134 Prince America 134 Prince Lets Go Crazy 196 Prince Purple Rain 59 Prince Scandalous 62 Prince Adore 65 Prince The Arms Of Orion 65 Prince The Most Beautiful Girl 87 Prince Greatest Romance... 90 Prince Shes Always In My Hair 93 Prince If I Was Your Girlfriend 95 Prince Space (Funky Stuff Remix) 95 Prince If I Was Your Girlfriend 95 Prince Sign Of The Times 99 Prince 7 101 Prince Rock N Roll Is Alive 101 Prince Violet The Organ Grinder 101 Prince Vicki Waiting 108 Prince Billy Bitch 110 Prince Gett Off 110 Prince Beautiful 115 Prince I Wanna Be Your Lover 115 Prince Sex 115 Prince Computer Blue 133 Prince Darling Nikki 79 Prince I Would Die For U 136 Prince Let's Go Crazy 197 Prince Purple Rain 58 Prince Take Me With U 123 Prince The Beautiful Ones 73 Prince When Doves Cry 127 Prince Most Beautiful Girl In The Wor 93 Here are some i found on the "i" net. Being a dj i never relied on bpm. i'm from the old school, and it's strictly by ear  for me. hope this can help some. *
* these calculations my be off.  [Edited 6/30/06 13:37pm] | |
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mrwigglesdaw1rm said: Prince Loose 126
Prince Purple Medley 126 Prince Uptown 127 Prince When Doves Cry 127 Prince Endorphinmachine 118 Prince Lemon Crush 121 Prince Sexy Dancer 121 Prince Raspberry Beret 121 Prince Sexy Dancer 121 Prince Lady Cab Driver 122 Prince Lets Work 122 Prince Lovesexy 123 Prince 319 120 Prince Irresisible Bitch 126 Prince Loose 126 Prince When Doves Cry 126 Prince Thieves In The Temple 130 Prince Dirty Mind 131 Prince Batdance 134 Prince America 134 Prince Lets Go Crazy 196 Prince Purple Rain 59 Prince Scandalous 62 Prince Adore 65 Prince The Arms Of Orion 65 Prince The Most Beautiful Girl 87 Prince Greatest Romance... 90 Prince Shes Always In My Hair 93 Prince If I Was Your Girlfriend 95 Prince Space (Funky Stuff Remix) 95 Prince If I Was Your Girlfriend 95 Prince Sign Of The Times 99 Prince 7 101 Prince Rock N Roll Is Alive 101 Prince Violet The Organ Grinder 101 Prince Vicki Waiting 108 Prince Billy Bitch 110 Prince Gett Off 110 Prince Beautiful 115 Prince I Wanna Be Your Lover 115 Prince Sex 115 Prince Computer Blue 133 Prince Darling Nikki 79 Prince I Would Die For U 136 Prince Let's Go Crazy 197 Prince Purple Rain 58 Prince Take Me With U 123 Prince The Beautiful Ones 73 Prince When Doves Cry 127 Prince Most Beautiful Girl In The Wor 93 Here are some i found on the "i" net. Being a dj i never relied on bpm. i'm from the old school, and it's strictly by ear for me. hope this can help some. * * these calculations my be off. Thank you!!! I don't rely on the bpm either, though it helps. I prefer to mix songs that sound similar...Like S&M Groove and Northside & ICP&C... Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Prince Uptown 127 That's a kind of hard one to mix. I have found that songs more on the rock side are harder to mix. I can find something to bring in after it but I never can get the beginning of "Uptown" to come in right. Prince Sexy Dancer 121
Prince Lady Cab Driver 122 Prince Lets Work 122 I've done these three together many times. Now that I see the BPM, I see why they work so well. "Head" is another that goes well. Prince Irresisible Bitch 126
Prince When Doves Cry 126 I've done these two also. "Erotic City" goes really well with either one of these. Prince Dirty Mind 131
This one does really well between the 12 Inch of "Little Red Corvette" and "Controversy". During the drums and handclaps at the end of the extended version of "Little Red Corvette", fade in the opening drum machine of "Dirty Mind". When "Dirty Mind" breaks down to the drum machine in the middle, bring in the opening drums to "Controversy". It's ass shakin' time then!
Prince Lets Go Crazy 196
Very hard one to mix unless you have the 12 Inch. During the extended part, "Delirious" or "Sexuality" works OK. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. It's just according if you've had enough to drink that night. Those skills work really well when you've got a good buzz going on. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Finess said: EmbattledWarrior said: thats how it use to be done... damn youngis... ive been a dj for over 30 years, and thats how i learned and thats how i still do it, shit back in my day we had no pitch control. I used to put my finger on the record to slow it down. Hell, I still do every now and then. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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[quote] Curt said: Finess said:
but NEVER play Hide the Bone, but the organizers tell me it's a crowd favorite?? I would have to try it, but it might work with "DMSR". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Prince Dirty Mind 131
This one does really well between the 12 Inch of "Little Red Corvette" and "Controversy". During the drums and handclaps at the end of the extended version of "Little Red Corvette", fade in the opening drum machine of "Dirty Mind". When "Dirty Mind" breaks down to the drum machine in the middle, bring in the opening drums to "Controversy". It's ass shakin' time then! lol that sounds like it'd be tight to hear at a club...  | |
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vainandy said:
....Prince Sexy Dancer 121 Prince Lady Cab Driver 122 Prince Lets Work 122 I've done these three together many times. Now that I see the BPM, I see why they work so well. "Head" is another that goes well. ...
Prince Irresisible Bitch 126 Prince When Doves Cry 126 I've done these two also. "Erotic City" goes really well with either one of these.
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mrwigglesdaw1rm said: Prince Loose 126
Prince Purple Medley 126 Prince Uptown 127 Prince When Doves Cry 127 Prince Endorphinmachine 118 Prince Lemon Crush 121 Prince Sexy Dancer 121 Prince Raspberry Beret 121 Prince Sexy Dancer 121 Prince Lady Cab Driver 122 Prince Lets Work 122 Prince Lovesexy 123 Prince 319 120 Prince Irresisible Bitch 126 Prince Loose 126 Prince When Doves Cry 126 Prince Thieves In The Temple 130 Prince Dirty Mind 131 Prince Batdance 134 Prince America 134 Prince Lets Go Crazy 196 Prince Purple Rain 59 Prince Scandalous 62 Prince Adore 65 Prince The Arms Of Orion 65 Prince The Most Beautiful Girl 87 Prince Greatest Romance... 90 Prince Shes Always In My Hair 93 Prince If I Was Your Girlfriend 95 Prince Space (Funky Stuff Remix) 95 Prince If I Was Your Girlfriend 95 Prince Sign Of The Times 99 Prince 7 101 Prince Rock N Roll Is Alive 101 Prince Violet The Organ Grinder 101 Prince Vicki Waiting 108 Prince Billy Bitch 110 Prince Gett Off 110 Prince Beautiful 115 Prince I Wanna Be Your Lover 115 Prince Sex 115 Prince Computer Blue 133 Prince Darling Nikki 79 Prince I Would Die For U 136 Prince Let's Go Crazy 197 Prince Purple Rain 58 Prince Take Me With U 123 Prince The Beautiful Ones 73 Prince When Doves Cry 127 Prince Most Beautiful Girl In The Wor 93 Here are some i found on the "i" net. Being a dj i never relied on bpm. i'm from the old school, and it's strictly by ear for me. hope this can help some. *
* these calculations my be off.
[Edited 6/30/06 13:37pm] thank you! | |
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