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Reply #30 posted 06/20/06 9:29am

metalorange

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The guitar riff sounds a lot like American Woman, especially the Rave DVD version, but I think it is an original song.

Besides Prince's guitar playing, the bass fill by Josh is very well done.
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Reply #31 posted 06/20/06 10:19am

ThreadBare

Hmm, seems I forgot the lyrics as soon as I heard them... confuse
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Reply #32 posted 06/29/06 6:20pm

origmnd

ive been thinking Im not in love anymore

ive been thru too much got something better to (sort)

its hard to c u leave but my heart
cant beat no more

just another day ....i got to let u go




sometimes i feel ... without u right here by my side

no disrespect babe but...

...i wish u farewell


----all i can hear from GMA
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Reply #33 posted 06/29/06 9:45pm

jone70

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I posted a topic on NPG about whether or not this song was a Prince original. No confirmation/denial from the PPs, but a user named schming found this in the ascap archives:


REDHEAD STEPCHILD (Title Code: 481228599)

Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS

Publishers/Administrators:
CONTROVERSY MUSIC
% UNIVERSAL MUSIC PUBLISHING GROUP


PSALM TYME MUSIC
% SAJ ENTERTAINMENT INC

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RED HEADED STEP CHILD (Title Code: 481051092)

Writers:
CONQUEST CHARLES L
TALBOT WESLEY E

Performers:
FRESH MUSIC

Publishers/Administrators:
JOODLE MUSIC PUBLISHING
C/O FRESH MUSIC LIBRARY

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RED HEADED STEPCHILD (Title Code: 480271972)

Writers:
MURPHY DANIEL DAVID
PERLMAN MARC R

Performers:
GOLDEN SMOG
SMOG

Publishers/Administrators:
BROKEN PROMISES MUSIC/WB MUSIC
% WB MUSIC CORP
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #34 posted 06/29/06 10:35pm

origmnd

The music is a rip-off like metal said.
I gather it IS about Mani.
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Reply #35 posted 06/30/06 5:06am

PurpleCharm

origmnd said:


I gather it IS about Mani.


I'm not sure about that. It could be a possibility if it was written solely by Prince but it was written by Tamar and Prince. I can't see Tamar writing about Mani feeling like a redhead stepchild.
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Reply #36 posted 06/30/06 7:49am

adorable2

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I'm probably the only one that thinks the song means "I'm being pretentious by labeling myself as a misfit before anyone even knows me." Its a cover of Rudolf and Herbie's song off the soundtrack for Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer. The original lyrics were " Why am I such a misfit. I am not such a nit wit just because my nose glows, seems I don't fit in." It was written by Burl Ives. By the way be on the lookout for the remix entitled "Baaa Baaa I'm a black sheep."
I'm an org elitist... totally unapproachable.

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Reply #37 posted 06/30/06 9:12am

origmnd

PurpleCharm said:

origmnd said:


I gather it IS about Mani.


I'm not sure about that. It could be a possibility if it was written solely by Prince but it was written by Tamar and Prince. I can't see Tamar writing about Mani feeling like a redhead stepchild.


Surely U know Prince likes to distribute songwriting credits at the drop of his goo
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Reply #38 posted 06/30/06 9:23am

PurpleCharm

origmnd said:

PurpleCharm said:



I'm not sure about that. It could be a possibility if it was written solely by Prince but it was written by Tamar and Prince. I can't see Tamar writing about Mani feeling like a redhead stepchild.


Surely U know Prince likes to distribute songwriting credits at the drop of his goo

Well, he must must have dropped a lot of goo because every song on that album was written by Tamar and Prince. confused
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Reply #39 posted 06/30/06 9:37am

jone70

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There seems to be a lot of speculation about who the lyrics are about when no one is even sure of what the exact lyrics are... :confused:

If someone has them please share.


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The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #40 posted 06/30/06 7:22pm

PurpleCharm

This is what I could come up with. Maybe someone can fill in the question marks.

I've been thinking
I'm not in love anymore
I've been through too much
I've got something better in store
It's hard to see you leave
But my heart can't beat no more
Just another day I've got to walk
Baby boy I've got to go
My love's been painless????
I'm taking all you came to be????

I feel like a redhead stepchild
?????
I feel like a redhead stepchild
Don't even know my own last name
I feel like a redhead stepchild
I often misunderstood
I feel like redhead stepchild
I'M WHAT...a redhead stepchild

Sometimes I feel funny????
Without you right by my side
If you know what I mean
How's baby feel like
?????
Don't disrepect me babe
but the bad out weighs the good
Imma wish you farewell
We need somebody who do us good
My love is painless???
?????

I ain't going out like none of that...come on

I feel like a redhead stepchild
?????
I feel like a redhead stepchild
Don't even know my own last name
I feel like a redhead stepchild
I often misunderstood
I feel like redhead stepchild
I'M WHAT...a redhead stepchild
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Reply #41 posted 07/01/06 2:38pm

origmnd

PurpleCharm said:

origmnd said:



Surely U know Prince likes to distribute songwriting credits at the drop of his goo

Well, he must must have dropped a lot of goo because every song on that album was written by Tamar and Prince. confused


Well he is generous in that he'll want her to get royalties also, and his name stamped nexted to hers will give her credibility she'll need just to get noticed outside this circle
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Reply #42 posted 07/01/06 2:48pm

metalorange

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PurpleCharm said:

origmnd said:



Surely U know Prince likes to distribute songwriting credits at the drop of his goo

Well, he must must have dropped a lot of goo because every song on that album was written by Tamar and Prince. confused


How do you know that? The album isn't out yet, have you seen the credits?

Often Prince credits people on the accompanying booklet, but then the registered song on ASCAP is solely Prince, so he's the only one getting actual royalties from them.
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Reply #43 posted 07/01/06 2:59pm

PurpleCharm

metalorange said:

PurpleCharm said:


Well, he must must have dropped a lot of goo because every song on that album was written by Tamar and Prince. confused


How do you know that? The album isn't out yet, have you seen the credits?

Often Prince credits people on the accompanying booklet, but then the registered song on ASCAP is solely Prince, so he's the only one getting actual royalties from them.



ASCAP rolleyes


ALL I WANT IS U (Title Code: 311959594)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS


Variations:
(none found)

Publishers/Administrators:
CONTROVERSY MUSIC
% UNIVERSAL MUSIC PUBLISHING GROUP
2440 SEPULVEDA BLVD.
SUITE 100
LOS ANGELES , CA, 90064
Tel. (310) 235-4700

PSALM TYME MUSIC
% SAJ ENTERTAINMENT INC
264 S LA CIENEGA BLVD
#1294
BEVERLY HILLS , CA, 90211
Tel. (310) 485-0415


BEAUTIFUL LOVED & BLESSED (Title Code: 321828859)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
PRINCE
PRINCE FEATURING TAMAR
TAMAR
TAMAR DAVIS
TAMAR FEATURING


Variations:
BEAUTIFUL, LOVED AND BLESSED




CAN'T KEEP LIVING ALONE (Title Code: 332264054)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS



CLOSER TO MY HEART (Title Code: 332264036)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS



FIRST LOVE (Title Code: 361460233)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS



HOLLA & SHOUT (Title Code: 381477992)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS



HOLY GROUND (Title Code: 381512578)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS


KEPT WOMAN (Title Code: 410470736)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS


REDHEAD STEPCHILD (Title Code: 481228599)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS


SUNDAY IN THE PARK (Title Code: 493651439)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS
[Edited 7/1/06 15:09pm]
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Reply #44 posted 07/02/06 3:25pm

redflag

PurpleCharm said:



ASCAP rolleyes


ALL I WANT IS U (Title Code: 311959594)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS


Variations:
(none found)

Publishers/Administrators:
CONTROVERSY MUSIC
% UNIVERSAL MUSIC PUBLISHING GROUP
2440 SEPULVEDA BLVD.
SUITE 100
LOS ANGELES , CA, 90064
Tel. (310) 235-4700

PSALM TYME MUSIC
% SAJ ENTERTAINMENT INC
264 S LA CIENEGA BLVD
#1294
BEVERLY HILLS , CA, 90211
Tel. (310) 485-0415


BEAUTIFUL LOVED & BLESSED (Title Code: 321828859)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
PRINCE
PRINCE FEATURING TAMAR
TAMAR
TAMAR DAVIS
TAMAR FEATURING


Variations:
BEAUTIFUL, LOVED AND BLESSED




CAN'T KEEP LIVING ALONE (Title Code: 332264054)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS



CLOSER TO MY HEART (Title Code: 332264036)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS



FIRST LOVE (Title Code: 361460233)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS



HOLLA & SHOUT (Title Code: 381477992)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS



HOLY GROUND (Title Code: 381512578)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS


KEPT WOMAN (Title Code: 410470736)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS


REDHEAD STEPCHILD (Title Code: 481228599)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS


SUNDAY IN THE PARK (Title Code: 493651439)
Writers:
DAVIS ASHLEY TAMAR
PRINCE

Performers:
TAMAR DAVIS
[Edited 7/1/06 15:09pm]


Thank you for the info Purple Charm. As a previous poster mentioned, the ASCAP registrations are closer to the truth of who writes what on a Prince associated album because they define who gets royalties. For instance "Nasty Girl" is credited to "Vanity" on the Vanity 6 album credits, but I believe the ASCAP registration is for Prince.

The ASCAP registrations you posted would seem to indicate that Tamar is indeed a legitimate songwriter, which isn't all the surprising given the fact that she's not some b-movie actress or model Prince brought into the studio just because they were dating. Like her or not, she's been schooled both formally and informally in the performing arts for most of her life, so her picking up a thing or two about songwriting isn't outside the realm of probability. Also note that unlike the "front" publishing companies like Tionna and Girlsongs that were also owned by Prince, the Tamar songs are co-administered by a completely different agency.
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Reply #45 posted 07/02/06 6:24pm

PurpleCharm

You're welcome redflag.

btw, what do you mean by "front publishing companies like Tionna and Girlsongs?"
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Reply #46 posted 07/02/06 9:48pm

redflag

PurpleCharm said:

You're welcome redflag.

btw, what do you mean by "front publishing companies like Tionna and Girlsongs?"


It was part of the "image" presented to the media of the time along with Prince's proteges supposedly writing and co-producing their own material that they also had their own music publishing. I remember various media sources saying things like "The Time has their own publishing company" or "Vanity 6 write and publish their own songs". It didn't take long though, before it was widely known that Tionna and Girlsongs were actually both an alias for Controversy Music.
[Edited 7/3/06 2:30am]
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