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Thread started 06/20/06 8:26am

Graycap23

Pearls before the Swine.....and the "fan"

I was listening 2 the song, “Pearls before the Swine” the other day and it so reminds me of a lot of so called Prince “fans”. I don’t have the lyrics in front of me but I challenge u guys 2 read them and tell me if u agree.

Based on a high percentage of the post that I read here and other places, the song fits rather nicely with some people. Take a read and tell me what u think.
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Reply #1 posted 06/20/06 8:44am

muirdo

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woot!

first.
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
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Reply #2 posted 06/20/06 8:45am

butterfli25

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Reminds me of the Paisley Park days when even though people came and had access they were not happy. BUT knowing P and how abstract he can be, would he be that forthcoming in a song? who knows. I always thought it was about a specific time frame, where he was trying to assess the value of allowing people to be close to him and questioning whether or not it was worth it in the long run.
here are the lyrics:


If I leave my front door open
would u come and visit me?
Just 2 slander my name hopin'
that I would pack my bags and leave...
If I did would u remember
2 feed the dove and clean the cage?
And never count in front of the children
lest they die of old age

I don't really know y we have 2 go r separate ways
Whether or not we grow after the seeds r shown
Only time can say...

Can I offer u baklava?
or a bagel with cream cheese?
Will we say grace 2 r father
holding hands down on r knees?
R we better off just fighting?
U on ur side, me on mine
R the words that I keep writing...
only pearls b4 the swine?
What makes men claim that u're a friend
when u're not at all?
They knock u down and then,
they lift u up again, just 2 c u fall...
But like a bird I'll keep on singing...
a song that never leaves ur mind
If nothing else u've taught me one thing...
"Never cast ur pearls b4 the swine"
butterfly
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Reply #3 posted 06/20/06 8:48am

Graycap23

Thanks for the lyrics post.
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Reply #4 posted 06/20/06 8:49am

Anx

i think it's about someone specific.
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Reply #5 posted 06/20/06 8:52am

Graycap23

Anx said:

i think it's about someone specific.



It does read that way as well.....but it can be applied to a group.
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Reply #6 posted 06/20/06 8:55am

butterfli25

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Graycap23 said:

Thanks for the lyrics post.


you are welcomed.
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Reply #7 posted 06/20/06 8:55am

FunkMistress

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Anx said:

i think it's about someone specific.


Why, Anx? I thought the general consensus was that it was directed at fans who came to the Celebrations. Particularly those who were pissed at the way he conducted them (the "preaching" for example) and subsequently dragged his name through the mud.
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Reply #8 posted 06/20/06 8:57am

Graycap23

FunkMistress said:

Anx said:

i think it's about someone specific.


Why, Anx? I thought the general consensus was that it was directed at fans who came to the Celebrations. Particularly those who were pissed at the way he conducted them (the "preaching" for example) and subsequently dragged his name through the mud.



Really? I never heard that story nor did I realize it was the "general consensus'. Interesting.....
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Reply #9 posted 06/20/06 8:58am

Anx

Graycap23 said:

Anx said:

i think it's about someone specific.



It does read that way as well.....but it can be applied to a group.


it could be inspired by peeking on a fan site like this or HQ and reading some of the more vitriolic posts by self-proclaimed "ex-fans". of course, what prince didn't include in the song is how "ex-fans" come running back like little bitches when he has something new to sell us.

prince is hardly the victim of his fans. his prolific nature just spoiled us rotten over the years, is all.
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Reply #10 posted 06/20/06 9:01am

Graycap23

Anx said:


prince is hardly the victim of his fans. his prolific nature just spoiled us rotten over the years, is all.




Lol.....I can't see Prince being a victim of fans in ANY sense. There were a couple of people on the HOT list though....for being well....CRAZY.
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Reply #11 posted 06/20/06 9:02am

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what's the HOT list?
butterfly
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Reply #12 posted 06/20/06 9:04am

Anx

if indeed there WAS a hot list with two names on it, i can probably guess what those names were. lol
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Reply #13 posted 06/20/06 9:06am

Graycap23

butterfli25 said:

what's the HOT list?

That's just a term I use. Security professionals much like police look out for "certain" types of people and or individuals.
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Reply #14 posted 06/20/06 9:06am

Graycap23

Anx said:

if indeed there WAS a hot list with two names on it, i can probably guess what those names were. lol



Ha.....me 2.
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Reply #15 posted 06/20/06 9:07am

FunkMistress

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Graycap23 said:

butterfli25 said:

what's the HOT list?

That's just a term I use. Security professionals much like police look out for "certain" types of people and or individuals.


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Reply #16 posted 06/20/06 9:07am

Anx

FunkMistress said:

Graycap23 said:


That's just a term I use. Security professionals much like police look out for "certain" types of people and or individuals.




that mess shoulda been on the paisley S.W.A.T. team list. boxed
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Reply #17 posted 06/20/06 9:13am

Graycap23

FunkMistress said:

Graycap23 said:


That's just a term I use. Security professionals much like police look out for "certain" types of people and or individuals.




What the story on the whale tail?
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Reply #18 posted 06/20/06 9:32am

ufoclub

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this song was his first new public release after 09/11/01... I had been waiting to see what Prince would do.

that audio show distinctly seemed to be a response or comment in it's tone. didn't it start with a bell ringing or something?
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Reply #19 posted 06/20/06 9:36am

metalorange

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To me, it sounds a lot more like he's having a go at some journalist or something. 'slander' sounds more like saying something about Prince in print - and They knock u down and then, they lift u up again, just 2 c u fall sounds a lot like what newspapers do. There certainly have been times when Prince has invited journalists over to Paisley Park to either talk with him or hear some new stuff, perhaps he took offence at what some of them wrote?
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Reply #20 posted 06/20/06 10:26am

luv4all7

Oh yeah totally! It reminds me of fans too. The ones who hate on him. His music is his treasure and he's sharing it, his most precious gift, only to be knocked down by the swine.

It's Matthew 7:6 and the verse is somewhat of a debate in itself.....if people can't agree on that, how are they gonna agree on a Prince song.

But I think your right Gray.
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Reply #21 posted 06/20/06 10:38am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Anx said:

i think it's about someone specific.

I think it's about the fans nod
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Reply #22 posted 06/20/06 10:43am

Anx

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Anx said:

i think it's about someone specific.

I think it's about the fans nod


yeah, but a specific fan.
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Reply #23 posted 06/20/06 10:44am

Handel

It doesnt sound like its about a specific group of people. Likely hes going on about a combination of groups of people. Like fans as well as journalists. Both have been to his house. Both have behaved in an unseemly fashion whilst being there as guests. So he can't help but have a gentle dig at them for misbehavin/takin advantage of his hospitality. This is a gentle song, gentle, butlike a fist in a velvet glove
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Reply #24 posted 06/20/06 10:49am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Anx said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I think it's about the fans nod


yeah, but a specific fan.


Must be someone over in P&R lol
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Reply #25 posted 06/20/06 10:52am

Handel

Although there was a specific complaint about the fan who nicked his cutlery and scribbled graffiti in the loo with their poo
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Reply #26 posted 06/20/06 11:05am

gyro34

butterfli25 said:

Reminds me of the Paisley Park days when even though people came and had access they were not happy. BUT knowing P and how abstract he can be, would he be that forthcoming in a song? who knows. I always thought it was about a specific time frame, where he was trying to assess the value of allowing people to be close to him and questioning whether or not it was worth it in the long run.
here are the lyrics:


If I leave my front door open
would u come and visit me?
Just 2 slander my name hopin'
that I would pack my bags and leave...
If I did would u remember
2 feed the dove and clean the cage?
And never count in front of the children
lest they die of old age

I don't really know y we have 2 go r separate ways
Whether or not we grow after the seeds r shown
Only time can say...

Can I offer u baklava?
or a bagel with cream cheese?
Will we say grace 2 r father
holding hands down on r knees?
R we better off just fighting?
U on ur side, me on mine
R the words that I keep writing...
only pearls b4 the swine?
What makes men claim that u're a friend
when u're not at all?
They knock u down and then,
they lift u up again, just 2 c u fall...
But like a bird I'll keep on singing...
a song that never leaves ur mind
If nothing else u've taught me one thing...
"Never cast ur pearls b4 the swine"


I find his way of expressing how he feels about a relationship that is not working very poetic.
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Reply #27 posted 06/20/06 11:21am

luv4all7

gyro34 said:

butterfli25 said:

Reminds me of the Paisley Park days when even though people came and had access they were not happy. BUT knowing P and how abstract he can be, would he be that forthcoming in a song? who knows. I always thought it was about a specific time frame, where he was trying to assess the value of allowing people to be close to him and questioning whether or not it was worth it in the long run.
here are the lyrics:


If I leave my front door open
would u come and visit me?
Just 2 slander my name hopin'
that I would pack my bags and leave...
If I did would u remember
2 feed the dove and clean the cage?
And never count in front of the children
lest they die of old age

I don't really know y we have 2 go r separate ways
Whether or not we grow after the seeds r shown
Only time can say...

Can I offer u baklava?
or a bagel with cream cheese?
Will we say grace 2 r father
holding hands down on r knees?
R we better off just fighting?
U on ur side, me on mine
R the words that I keep writing...
only pearls b4 the swine?
What makes men claim that u're a friend
when u're not at all?
They knock u down and then,
they lift u up again, just 2 c u fall...
But like a bird I'll keep on singing...
a song that never leaves ur mind
If nothing else u've taught me one thing...
"Never cast ur pearls b4 the swine"


I find his way of expressing how he feels about a relationship that is not working very poetic.


Your user name makes me hungry. neutral
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Reply #28 posted 06/20/06 11:26am

gyro34

luv4all7 said:

gyro34 said:



I find his way of expressing how he feels about a relationship that is not working very poetic.


Your user name makes me hungry. neutral


Gyros are my favorite Greek food.
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Reply #29 posted 06/20/06 11:29am

luv4all7

gyro34 said:

luv4all7 said:



Your user name makes me hungry. neutral


Gyros are my favorite Greek food.

lick
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