I've been talking with some fans..fams whatever about prince and his popularity. They all r really bothered by what the public thinks of him. I'm sure this has been a thread in the past (not sure) but do u care?? If he released When doves cry, or Little red corvette in 2002. Do u think he'd b #1. We all stick up 4 Prince at work or at home or school...etc. Could he pull it off now??


I'd love 2 c him at the #1 spot again, but it dosen't change how I feel about him or the music. Yeah it'd b really cool , but fat chance these days. Prince where r u??

it dose not matter cuz i know that prince is one hell of a singer and everything eles that has 2 do with music

Seeing that his sound has always been so good & unique, I would think he could come out on top these days. But how do you assess that? You have to take into account his legacy & how it has contributed to the sounds we're hearing today. I can't even imagine that slate being clean.

Would "When Doves Cry" sound like the "When Doves Cry" we all know? Probably not b/c he would be coming up in a different time & be influenced by different things. The whole scope would be different, but like I said he's unique - he'd find a way to make it his own & I'd bet $ we'd like it.

As far as how people outside the loop view him, it doesn't really bother me. I wish more people REALLY knew how fantastic he is, but people have short memories. If an artist is not on the radio, on the mall stereo or on the video channels constantly, simple folk forget they exist.

The same people I'm trying to hip to P are the ones buying Blu Cantrell & the like - how do you talk sense to somebody like that??? I don't even try. I just smile when I'm spinning "When the Lights Go Down" or "Mellow" & they say, "This is good, who is this? PRINCE???"

Of course I frown when they follow it up with, "Is he called 'Prince' again?"

Not popular? I wear his name or symbol on my person every day and always get remarks. His face and music seems 2 pop up on regular bases on TV, Radio .Now he may not b on the top ten list for records on radio but there is clearly an intrest n him. He has not been convicted of sexual misconduct, murder, stocktrader fraud...
The "POPULAR" come and go and always changing U do bad U can B popular 2 .
Let it B knoown that Prince is 2me n2 the real world for real people we must listen and share our feelings & thoughts with each other 2 straighten out what "Popular" really means...
Is Osama popular?

There R no kings only Prince's
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Prince has reached a point where he's "popular" no matter what...Stevie Wonder hasn't had a top 40 hit in about 15 years, I think...but he'll be "popular" for the rest of his life, and for a few lifetimes afterwards...his music and his art were that good...Prince will be the same way...

While I'd love seeing Prince get some recognition for the artistry of his output now, instead of just for what he did "then", the fact that he isn't doesn't bother me...if it doesn't bother him, why should it bother me??..

wellbeyond said:

thats it. I'd like to add that I wouldnt like to see prince in the charts up there with all the shitty plastic music of today...

CalhounSq said:

Well said, Cal.

If it is not one on the top of the charts it is another...The music industry has turned into a form of politics.. You sometimes get where you do by just simple plain ass kissing. Britney Spears VS. Prince?...NSYNC VS.PRINCE? Prince is a musical genious and he does not have to be on a CHART to prove that! He also writes for so many other artist, so who really knows? He probably has songs on the charts right now that he helped a newbie to get to the top.

no it does not bother me.

Most of the kids about now have no appreciation of REAL music, and would prefer to salivate at pop stars, their looks and rubbish lyrics and sounds, it is a shame that there aren't that many great musicians recognised in todays sterile society, there is loads of talent about but real talent goes unnoticed these days. Its a shame but I still think Prince is popular, just to us with great taste in music and sounds. Whether he is controversial, people still love him or hate him, I mean everyone has heard of him...even if he isn't in the Top of the Music charts, think of all the great musicians who aspire to him Lenny Kravitz etc..
It doesn't bother me

I would say that if Prince made is debut today he would not gain the same type of popularity that *NSYNC and Britney have because he's not catering to the elementary school audience the way that these acts seem to be. I know that they attract an older fan base as well, but the biggest fans that I see are the fifth and sixth graders.

As far as being bothered by his lack of mainstream popularity, it doesn't concern me much at all. Prince is known for making good music and that's why I like him. My friends are out there listening to whatever crap has the sexiest video and it honestly bores me to tears. It's one thing to dance to that type of music at a party or a club but when I'm in my room or my car or writing a paper I would much rather listen to something that I truly enjoy. For me, Prince's music, among other artists, is what I truly enjoy. It's complex, emotional, and fun.

It would be nice if the majority of the population would recognize this and not think that I'm crazy for liking him now that it is 2003 but it is not neccessary. I would like him regardless because good music is good music. And you can't argue with that.

jessyMD32781 said:

AND you can listen and listen, strip his music - all the layers and you still discover something new in a song even after listening to it for years and years
He is pure genius and has a great sense of humour too!

REDFEATHERS said:

Exactly! I don't think that Prince will bore me anytime soon!

Id be lying to myself if I didnt say that I wanted Prince to come up with another innovative banger that zooms in the top ten and had people saying "oh this is Prince? cool!" making him commercially relevant again.One more just to let people know what we already know.
[This message was edited Sun Jul 21 10:13:17 PDT 2002 by rdhull]

What bothers me is the state of the music industry in general, and how it doesn't allow for a large percentage of those with actual musical merit to obtain some sort of frontburner status, as opposed to those with questionable talent. It's not just Prince who has been creating music of merit and isn't in the spotlight.

But being popular has its downfalls too. There is always a backlash. This isn't high school. And in pop culture once you reach a certain age you lose footing in the public's consciousness, there are a few exceptions. It's not fair, but it's the way it is...

It's just so ... complicated.

Yes,Yes,Yes! But he's always going to have his Hard-core Fans no matter what. But Yes, I want Prince to have more top ten singles. Be #1 and the Bomb. I seriously do believe that Warner Brothers Stopped Marketing him Correctly. There is only 1 Prince and They are Dum-Ass Fools. Their Compilations Suck and I don't buy them. I only buy things through the Fan-Club. Prince will always be the most Talented singer,songwriter,musician in the World. He can do Every type of Music Well. People got too hung-up on him as a person and his persona and forgot about the Music. And they never appreciated him enough. He's always Over-looked and Under-Appreciated. He deserves more RECOGNITION!

And Yes, he Can DEFINITELY Pull It Off!

Vagina said:

I take it, Vagina, that you're a Prince fan??..

rdhull said:

Yes but he would have to wear baggy short jeans, sneakers, a bandana, thousands of tattoos, afew gold teeth, shave his head and come up with a really shit song. He'd have to find a couple of no marks to prance around in the background, and gaqrgle shit!!

Vagina said:

No offense but why do u always seem to answer yourself?..if you want to add something that you forgot why dont u just edit and add it?

accident double post
[This message was edited Sun Jul 21 11:22:40 PDT 2002 by rdhull]

of course it does.to Me the Man is One of the Most Important Artist's over the last 50 plus Years.Him,MJ,Rick,Stevie,Marvin,Lionel, were some of the Few Black Artist's that had any kind of success in the very Seperate early 80's Radio.and I think for Prince to Help break down barriers shouldn't go unnoticed.it's nothing now for Black Artists all over the Airwaves on pop,Mtv,etc... but back then Him&MJ were representing fully.things like that matter to me.of course His Legacy is in tact But I would dig to see the Brother rolling Large again.if When doves cry or LTC came out today hard to say.when Prince came out He unfolded before our eyes the Musical Highs&Lows nowadays a Cat like Maxwell is stripped like crazy at Sony for doing his Thing&I don't know if Prince coming along today would be alllowed the same Musical Freedoms.I'm glad to have Heard Music that was allowed to Grow unlike what these Cats most deal with today.I'll always champion the Brother but of course it would be cool to see cats that truly Matter on top instead of the Fast-Food Mentality Crap that goes for Number 1 nowadays.

It doesn't bother me at all. I think about the first time I saw Prince in concert in the Dorton Arena in Raleigh, NC back in the winter of 1980. These were the bikini and trenchcoat days for those of you who didn't really dig prince until Purple Rain. At that time, I never thought he would sell thousands of tickets because of the eccentricity, but he did. Prince is a ICON, for many reasons, depending on what he impressed upon you- as an individual. Musicians were impressed by the genius in his creativity. Other creative personalities were impressed perhaps by eccentricity and reclusiveness. Others folk may have been impressed by his overt sexuality, questionable sexuality, frequent re-invention through drastic changes in wardrobe, and hair style, or the high heels. It will be difficult for him to get new listeners now, because of the manner in which he distributes his music- internet only access doesnt' allow your music to get a lot of promotion. He is an artist, and when you create your art, whether it be painting, drawing,sculpture, etc., people will be down with your flavor, or they won't. Like it, or not like it. People just aren't diggin' his art at this time. Only God and Prince know what type of music he will create in the future. He's a different man now, and I don't think he will create any more self destructive music. If he releases any music of this nature, it is likely to be music he had already recorded in the past, but had not released

Prince is Popular,he hasn't gone anywhere!

i am sorta conflicted on this...
would i like to see him competing with nsync for the #1 spot on the pop charts? no..the pop charts suck and i don't really listen to the radio anymore anyway...
would i like the general public to at least know when he releases a cd?..yes...
would i like to see him on trl? absolutely not...unless trl became by some freak accident a place for truly talented musicians...
would i like to see him do some concert specials on tv? mtv2, vh1, a & e? absolutely...
so..i guess it bothers me that his music career isn't more visible...i mean..he is still a household word...but nobody really knows what he's doing it seems...
it bothers me that people who appreciate good music have no way of being exposed to him unless they actually search...
but i also like the feeling of being one of the few that do know what's up...
so yes and no..

It doesn't bother me that he isnot as popular as he once was,My opinion of him would not change.

I would like for him to be on the top ten again for his sake.
What bothers me about this is what is wrong with people that there arenot more of them that appreciate his music?.
What does this tell you about peoples taste and intelligence?
When people find out I like Prince, most of them say how can you like him? They don't even know what they are talking about and this is sad.

It doesnt bother me at all. The only thing i miss is his singles having remixes and b-sides.

All he would have to do is put out a killer funk,rock album

rio said:

Kinda feel the same way you do Rio.

I also want to say that he is doing more than ever what he wants to be doing and that releasing an album that's this, or that, just for the recognition or dollar is what he's said he's trying to get away from.
[This message was edited Sun Jul 21 15:30:16 PDT 2002 by Therapy]

REDFEATHERS said

AND you can listen and listen, strip his music - all the layers and you still discover something new in a song even after listening to it for years and years
He is pure genius and.

Well put RedFeathers 8)

It doesn't bother me at all. In fact I like
it better this way or shall I say his way???

Excellent Per4mer