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PrintableEllisDee said: what i want to know is this: will the members of the npgmc that were unable to attend the celebration for some reason or another ever get a copy of "days of wild (live in montreal)"...
i wasn't expecting that we would get the cd like the people who attended the celebration, but i had assumed that he would have at least made it a download, so that the rest of us would have an opportunity to hear it... If they were reasonable people, we would, but I guess that is also the answer to your question. I am a member who hasn't been to the Celebration and I have the Days Of Wild CD. I just had to pay $30 to get it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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ChocolateInvasion said: I am a member who hasn't been to the Celebration and I have the Days Of Wild CD. I just had to pay $30 to get it.
FU-U-U-CK!!! 
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Novabreaker said: ChocolateInvasion said: I am a member who hasn't been to the Celebration and I have the Days Of Wild CD. I just had to pay $30 to get it.
FU-U-U-CK!!!
I got it for free. Guess somebody likes you enough to give it for free. Nobody likes me, so I had to pay. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Cloud9 - I am sure Prince is getting tired of getting used by the music industry (whether it was a contract agreement or not..) and he has no idea how you intended to use those downloads. It's a standard legal procedure to send out a letter like that when he feels that a profiteer is at large. Also, he is trying to keep the exclusitivity of the club intact. AND the cd was for attendees of the Celebration only (at least for now...) So what you need to do is write a letter back and express your feelings through that channel.
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Well, it's just a goddang copy. Of course. | |
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Novabreaker said: Well, it's just a goddang copy. Of course.
Ah, you're cheating. But still, guess you're the smart one ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Not really. You know what kind of a pain in the ass it can be to have all your rarities collections in identical looking CD-Rs? It's like "I'd like to listen to my Rebels sessions now, where is it? Amidst all these couple of hundred identical looking jewel cases?" | |
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thecloud9mission said: Im losing my faith.
All this great music, all these wonderful jams, all created...by an asshole. Still digging his music but Im no longer sure if I like the person he has become inside  Welcome 2 the Dawn... | |
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I got a copy of the DOW single on CDR for free, too. I'm an NPGMC member, but I wasn't at the celebration. I'm not going to pay $30 to $50 for "limited edition" Prince singles on eBay.
It was the same deal with the Hit 'n Run singles. I couldn't get the music through official channels, so I just got all 3 of the singles on one bootleg for $10. And you're way late if you're just now figuring out that Prince and his Paisley Power Tripping employees are assholes. | |
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THIS SPACE FOR RENT! :O [This message was edited Tue Jul 30 19:57:58 PDT 2002 by DJEmale] | |
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KeithyT said: Oh, I see. The whole legal side to Prince's World is the only real bad vibe I get.
I was a subscriber to The Interactive Experience (a UK fanzine) a few years ago. I did not have an internet connection at this time and it was invaluable to me in keeping up with what was happening in the world of Prince. I had just renewed my annual subscription (£15 I think) when Prince's lawyers came down like a ton of bricks on people like Uptown, The Interactive Experience and their assoc. websites for unauthorised use of the o+> symbol and discussion of bootleg recordings etc. I did not receive any more fanzines. I decided not to chase for the money as I thought they would need it more than me. This left me very disillusioned about Prince (or his legal representatives). From this episode it seems they are still pretty strict on what is and isn't allowed. Interactive Experience SOLD bootlegs though. hahahaha | |
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thecloud9mission said: Im not a member of NPGMC. I downloaded the file from a file sharer in the first place. So I have never read the contact of which you speak & didnt know this particular file was illegal to share ..um..not to be rude..but..you got the file illegally..and you shared it the same way..not sure why any of this comes as a surprize to you... ..if the file is to be shared freely i'm sure they would promote it in such a way and put it as a free download...such as 'u make my sunshine' 'when will we be paid' or 'when eye lay my hands on u...' i find it hard to believe that you really thought prince had changed his views on sharing files with this particular song that wasn't made widely available to begin with... | |
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DJEmale said:  I better take it off my playlist before I'm next! ...nobody is downloading it from your site...you have permission to air the music, right? | |
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I'm just playing.  | |
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Lewis, it sounds to me like you just let way too many people know what was going on; you put your bizness in the street. Utilize some discretion. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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It's over-rated anyways, Days of Wild without swearing just doesn't have the same passion. File sharing will never stop. It's like trying to stop mosquitos from biting you in MN in the summer--impossible
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The only thing that really bothers me about this whole incident is the misunderstanding that comes with it.
As the days of the wild track was given away at the cellebration, I thought it was free. If I had known that I was violating contracts, I never would have posted the mp3 in the first place & I hate the fact that this might make me out to be a file sharing villan. In summary, the misunderstanding of my intentions. I would never knowingly violate a contract, NPGMC or Prince. Anyways all, Im glad we were able to talk about this & ya'll set my mind at ease a bit. I let my imagination get away with me & imagined a huge court case against my site over this little mistake. It seems NPGMC realise I made a mistake & so do I. All is well.  | |
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thecloud9mission said: Starmist7 said: No, it wasn't from Prince though. That's why I think you should write them.
I wouldnt know what to say that wouldnt cause them to take legal action. Cant lose my website, its cost me a fortune to keep it there & Ive worked hard & long on it for 9 months, not even Prince can take that away from me. What should I say? I feel ya...but dont even worry bout it, just dont share any Prince stuff in a public fourm... its his stuff so i guess he can do what he wants with his stuff...its most likely not him sayin that stuff anyways... hes got his people trained well... hell hes got me trained too, I ALWAYS forget my camera when Im going to a non Prince show...everybody gettin pics but me  anyways...besides u got some real good stuff to share of urself
and ur real young too...maybe one day when ur fampus and in ur 30s U can call up Prince and ask him to come jam with u...just like he did with Larry
the music u make is awesome...Im really feeling it   
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KeithyT said: Its a toughie. You uploaded something that was given away free at the Celebration. In some ways you were just "doing the work".
thecloud9mission said: Anyways, I just emailed back to appologise & explain that I have never been a member of NPGMC (so have read no contracts) & so was unaware that this particular song was illegal to share as I got it from a file sharer in the first place & had heard that Prince gave it away free at the celly anyway.
It is an interpretation that it was given away for free: one could also argue people paid $250 for it and the concerts were for free... More important though, the song is protected by a copyright. No matter whether it was given away for free or not, with the copyright the song cannot be distributed or reproduced without consent of NPG. If you do not understand this... stay out of the kitchen. Music cannot be for free, unless your bills do not depend on selling some stuff. I do not go to the office every day and share my talents and intelligence with my boss for nothing and I am sure there are not many here who work for free... Surprises me though that so many think Prince has to share his music for free with us!? I am glad Cloud Mission 9 has been able to resolve it with MPGMC though! |
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Cloud9mission...um I have been looking for a symbol pendant if you are really serious I'll buy it from you!
And if you just have hurt feelings I understand that too! ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
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Guys, can I ask a favour??
Can we leave this thread, I kinda wanna put all this behind me today
Cheers Lewis [This message was edited Tue Jul 30 14:34:34 PDT 2002 by thecloud9mission] | |
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CalhounSq said: I don't understand why you're so upset, Lewis. Isn't it in the NPGMC "contract" or whatever that we're not to share files from them...
Two things, firstly, the song was not avaliable as a shared file for download through the NPGMC. Secondly, Prince hates "CONtracts" so why should we abide by his. Is it not the pot calling the kettle black? http://www.goldiesparade.co.uk/ - Prince discography, tour history, news and more. | |
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They seemed cool & sent me a copy of the contract & said in future dont let it happen again.
Nuff said.[/quote]  My word!!! | |
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EllisDee said: what i want to know is this: will the members of the npgmc that were unable to attend the celebration for some reason or another ever get a copy of "days of wild (live in montreal)"...
i wasn't expecting that we would get the cd like the people who attended the celebration, but i had assumed that he would have at least made it a download, so that the rest of us would have an opportunity to hear it... I wrote to the NPGMC regarding Days of Wild: At 06:10 PM 7/1/02 -0500, you wrote: High, I am a member of the NPGMC and bought 2 passes to the Xenophobia Celebration. Unfortunately, we were only able to attend the 1st 3 nites. You can only imagine the disappointment that overcame me when I learned that the Days of Wild - Montreal CD was handed out to all attendees on the final date and I wasn't there to receive mine. Is there any way that I can obtain this CD? I've got my Xenophobia pass if you need proof that I purchased these passes but wasn't in attendance for the entire week. While I would hate to part with my pass, I know I would get so much more enjoyment from the CD. Please, please, please Here's their response: Hello At this time we have no plans 4 releasing the Days Of Wild CD Single or making it available as a download. At this time it was a one night only special surprise.  | |
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starr said: Here's their response:
That settles it for me. It is a robot answering these e-mails. Reminds me of the Trade Federation robots in The Phantom Menace.
Hello At this time we have no plans 4 releasing the Days Of Wild CD Single or making it available as a download. At this time it was a one night only special surprise. Us: "Any chance of a new download to keep us all happy in the next few days?" NPGMC: "Ermmm "New", does not compute. You're under arrest!" [This message was edited Wed Jul 31 2:13:22 PDT 2002 by KeithyT] Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad. | |
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starr said: EllisDee said: what i want to know is this: will the members of the npgmc that were unable to attend the celebration for some reason or another ever get a copy of "days of wild (live in montreal)"...
i wasn't expecting that we would get the cd like the people who attended the celebration, but i had assumed that he would have at least made it a download, so that the rest of us would have an opportunity to hear it... I wrote to the NPGMC regarding Days of Wild: At 06:10 PM 7/1/02 -0500, you wrote: High, I am a member of the NPGMC and bought 2 passes to the Xenophobia Celebration. Unfortunately, we were only able to attend the 1st 3 nites. You can only imagine the disappointment that overcame me when I learned that the Days of Wild - Montreal CD was handed out to all attendees on the final date and I wasn't there to receive mine. Is there any way that I can obtain this CD? I've got my Xenophobia pass if you need proof that I purchased these passes but wasn't in attendance for the entire week. While I would hate to part with my pass, I know I would get so much more enjoyment from the CD. Please, please, please Here's their response: Hello At this time we have no plans 4 releasing the Days Of Wild CD Single or making it available as a download. At this time it was a one night only special surprise. sometimes, they can be such fuckin' assholes... grrr...  Mr. Ellis Dee-licious, the Official NPGigolo 
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