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Reply #30 posted 07/30/02 3:15am

starbuck

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Cloud Nine,

I'm sorry 2 hear that u were treated like that but remember :
the song was not yours 2 give away in the first place...
"Time is a train, makes the future the past"
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Reply #31 posted 07/30/02 3:15am

marilyn

Don't let this thing drive you mad. Best thing is to try and learn from it, park it to the very back of your mind and move on. Take care of yourself and above all don't let the bastards grind you down smile
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Reply #32 posted 07/30/02 3:16am

KeithyT

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thecloud9mission said:

KeithyT said:

thecloud9mission said:

What should I say?
Nothing, just leave it now IMHO.

Thats what I think.

I know when Im wrong in my actions, its just why Im wrong that Im questioning
Its a toughie. You uploaded something that was given away free at the Celebration. In some ways you were just "doing the work". Spreading the music. Like having a legit copy of TRC and burning it onto CD-R and sending it to a local radio station and begging them to play it. You're heart was in the right place. It's just going to be tough to get that across to the NPGMC (this is distinct from Prince who perhaps would understand).
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #33 posted 07/30/02 3:20am

Novabreaker

You know, I'm so willing to do my work right now that I'm at the moment burning my whole outtakes collection to MP3 CD-Rs and sending 'em to a friend.
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Reply #34 posted 07/30/02 3:22am

Starmist7

thecloud9mission said:

What should I say?


I see what you mean. You don't want this to escalate into something else. I was thinking maybe as an apologetic letter, stating that you were not in anyway trying to violate or misuse the file sharing policy, and how you support Prince in what he does, always have and always will, just to make it clear to them that you were not in anyway trying to do what they claim that you were doing. I think you it is in your right to clear the air because they're accusing you of doing something that is false, or are implying that you did it with a bad intention as it were to gain something for you, which is not true. So, I think you have every right to defend yourself.

But, I’m no legal expert, that’s just my opinion. Just do what you feel. But me personally, I feel that I have to bring these issues, what I think and feel, out in the open. Maybe you just need time to think about it some more, and/or will just let it fade, like some have said, and will say. I just really feel for your situation because these mix-ups can be very tricky. Just think about it some more, and keep the faith. Peace and much love.
[This message was edited Tue Jul 30 3:27:12 PDT 2002 by Starmist7]
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Reply #35 posted 07/30/02 3:39am

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I don't understand why you're so upset, Lewis. Isn't it in the NPGMC "contract" or whatever that we're not to share files from them? Why are you surprised that they asked/told you to stop??

It's one thing to make CD's for friends, quite another to put it on a site for anyone around the world to take. So what Prince gave the song away for free @ the Celebration - it's HIS to give away. Okay, he supports file sharing - but maybe he'd prefer his stuff to be d/l'ed once it's been officially released.

Who knows his philosopy on file sharing??? What does it matter? Bottom line is don't YOU be the one giving his shit away online. And if you were so dead-set on your plan, you should have emailed your friends privately instead of putting up a friggin' ad.

You said yourself that "it was a pretty stupid idea", but now you wanna call Prince an asshole over something you did??? neutral

And you come to the Org to whine for support? neutral

Sympathy?

not

a

DROP
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Reply #36 posted 07/30/02 3:44am

Novabreaker

You know, Lewis. It's hard to imagine a valid legal case on this as the owner of the copyrights (Prince) has in fact CONDONED sharing of his own works (fuck the NPGMC contract he has spoken otherwise in public). It's the same thing when police officers have tried arrest drug users to buy selling them drugs under disguise. Agitating to crime is, at least inside EC, totally unconstitutional. Of course he never signed under anything and it's still illegal, but it's hard to see anything too drastic a punishment cast upon you if it would somehow end up in that situation.
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Reply #37 posted 07/30/02 3:45am

IrishEcho

CalhounSq said:


It's one thing to make CD's for friends, quite another to put it on a site for anyone around the world to take. So what Prince gave the song away for free @ the Celebration - it's HIS to give away. Okay, he supports file sharing - but maybe he'd prefer his stuff to be d/l'ed once it's been officially released.



What a hypo(crite) you are. I remember you going on not so long ago on how you don't share files even with your friends (apparently you claim to have some). Now you're going in the opposite direction of that argument to support this current rant of yours. I hardly think this one person is responsible for the rack upon rack of Prince bootleg CDs readily available. You sad little "fam."
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Reply #38 posted 07/30/02 3:53am

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CalhounSq said:

I don't understand why you're so upset, Lewis. Isn't it in the NPGMC "contract" or whatever that we're not to share files from them? Why are you surprised that they asked/told you to stop??

It's one thing to make CD's for friends, quite another to put it on a site for anyone around the world to take. So what Prince gave the song away for free @ the Celebration - it's HIS to give away. Okay, he supports file sharing - but maybe he'd prefer his stuff to be d/l'ed once it's been officially released.

Who knows his philosopy on file sharing??? What does it matter? Bottom line is don't YOU be the one giving his shit away online. And if you were so dead-set on your plan, you should have emailed your friends privately instead of putting up a friggin' ad.

You said yourself that "it was a pretty stupid idea", but now you wanna call Prince an asshole over something you did??? neutral

And you come to the Org to whine for support? neutral

Sympathy?

not

a

DROP

Im not a member of NPGMC. I downloaded the file from a file sharer in the first place. So I have never read the contact of which you speak & didnt know this particular file was illegal to share
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Reply #39 posted 07/30/02 3:55am

lovebird

I wouldn't worry about it. Prince has always been
that way.
Cloud nine, where does the song mission come from?
That is a good song.
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Reply #40 posted 07/30/02 4:00am

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Anyways, I just emailed back to appologise & explain that I have never been a member of NPGMC (so have read no contracts) & so was unaware that this particular song was illegal to share as I got it from a file sharer in the first place & had heard that Prince gave it away free at the celly anyway.

They seemed cool & sent me a copy of the contract & said in future dont let it happen again.

Nuff said.
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Reply #41 posted 07/30/02 4:01am

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lovebird said:

I wouldn't worry about it. Prince has always been
that way.
Cloud nine, where does the song mission come from?
That is a good song.

Thankyou mate, its one of mine.
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Reply #42 posted 07/30/02 4:07am

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IrishEcho said:

What a hypo(crite) you are. I remember you going on not so long ago on how you don't share files even with your friends (apparently you claim to have some). Now you're going in the opposite direction of that argument to support this current rant of yours. I hardly think this one person is responsible for the rack upon rack of Prince bootleg CDs readily available. You sad little "fam."


I DON'T share files, even w/ my friends. Other people do obviously. Is it a bigger offense for Lewis to share files w/ the world than to make a CD for a friend? YES. What does this have to do with whether or not I share MY files? NOTHING.

Instead of flipping through that diary you keep on me, try staying on topic for a change, Irish. You pathetic little FUCK...

And do you think the "fat" comments are actually gonna get to me one day just b/c I'm female? Try tagging me w/ something that actually fits me, if you can even make a sensible observation that doesn't concern Jedi's & Ewoks... bored
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Reply #43 posted 07/30/02 4:14am

CalhounSq

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thecloud9mission said:

Im not a member of NPGMC. I downloaded the file from a file sharer in the first place. So I have never read the contact of which you speak & didnt know this particular file was illegal to share


Wow, I wonder what's worse: being a member & sharing the file knowing it broke their rules...

OR

Not caring enough to join the club, yet further distributing their "exclusive" materials to non-members...

confused

Either way, I'm glad it all got worked out. Now was it really worth all that pouting?
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #44 posted 07/30/02 4:17am

IrishEcho

CalhounSq said:



I DON'T share files, even w/ my friends. Other people do obviously. Is it a bigger offense for Lewis to share files w/ the world than to make a CD for a friend? YES. What does this have to do with whether or not I share MY files? NOTHING.

Instead of flipping through that diary you keep on me, try staying on topic for a change, Irish. You pathetic little FUCK...

And do you think the "fat" comments are actually gonna get to me one day just b/c I'm female? Try tagging me w/ something that actually fits me, if you can even make a sensible observation that doesn't concern Jedi's & Ewoks... bored


You might be overstating just a bit saying that this guy is sharing his files with the "world," don't you think? Nah, you couldn't possibly be wrong. You are not fit to judge him or anyone else for that matter, as you're so pathetially deluded. And yes, it has plenty to do with whether or not you personally share your own Prince CDs, unless of course you've forgotten what you yourself have written.

At 6'2", I'm sorry, but I'm a pathetic big f$%#. And don't flatter yourself, I keep no diary on you, chubs. You may have the butt of an elephant, I simply have its memory.

I couldn't care less if you're offended or not by my remarks. You're still a cow. You're going to need a bit more ammunition than the Star Wars knocks, you know?

You might want to keep a diary of your own. I remember quite clearly your saying that you were just going to ignore me from now on. Nice try on that one, Free Willy!
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Reply #45 posted 07/30/02 4:18am

Novabreaker

CalhounSQ, what a crime! MP3 files are sure to kill more people than handguns in the US during the next two years.
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Reply #46 posted 07/30/02 4:18am

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CalhounSq said:

Not caring enough to join the club, yet further distributing their "exclusive" materials to non-members...

confused

Cant afford to join the club, its not worth it for uk fans anyway cos how are we gonna make the concerts & so have never read the contract, till earlier today.
[This message was edited Tue Jul 30 4:19:57 PDT 2002 by thecloud9mission]
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Reply #47 posted 07/30/02 4:20am

IrishEcho

thecloud9mission said:

CalhounSq said:

Not caring enough to join the club, yet further distributing their "exclusive" materials to non-members...

confused

Erm, no

Cant afford to join the club, its not worth it for uk fans anyway cos how are we gonna make the concerts & so have never read the contract, till earlier today.

Thanx anyway


You're wasting your time arguing with that Prince Zombie. Better off just making fun of her & her type.
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Reply #48 posted 07/30/02 4:22am

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IrishEcho said:

thecloud9mission said:

CalhounSq said:

Not caring enough to join the club, yet further distributing their "exclusive" materials to non-members...

confused

Erm, no

Cant afford to join the club, its not worth it for uk fans anyway cos how are we gonna make the concerts & so have never read the contract, till earlier today.

Thanx anyway


You're wasting your time arguing with that Prince Zombie. Better off just making fun of her & her type.

oh no, Im not arguing eek just wanted to explain myself wink
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Reply #49 posted 07/30/02 4:25am

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Anyways, they appologised, I appologised, all is well

smile

& I'll know in future biggrin
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Reply #50 posted 07/30/02 4:31am

KeithyT

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The End smile
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #51 posted 07/30/02 4:32am

CalhounSq

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IrishEcho said:

a bunch of stupid shit as usual, exept the part about ignoring him/her/it - THAT I should take heed to...


neutral bored zzz
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Reply #52 posted 07/30/02 4:53am

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CalhounSq -> hug <- IrishEcho

Please?
peace
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Reply #53 posted 07/30/02 5:04am

UserCurrentlyK
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and just what could prince do 2 u anyway cloud9?
come all the way 2 england and put u n jail?

puhleese...y'all give prince way 2 much power, eye wish he would say something 2 me about anything!

send me a emale prince!
scaring ppl like that! well eye'm not scared of ya!

cept if u point at me and ask me 2 come on stage 2 dance...(((uhh, no?)))
other than that...briiinng it arounnnd town! briiinng it arounnnd town!

hey, cloud9...if they saw ur post 4 free downloads...POST AN OPEN LETTER 2 PRINCE THERE THE SAME WAY, WITH MAYB ANOTHER DOWNLOAD AS BAIT? HE GOT 2 C IT THEN!

just a thought
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Reply #54 posted 07/30/02 5:07am

IrishEcho

ChocolateInvasion said:

CalhounSq -> hug <- IrishEcho

Please?
peace


Yeah, why doesn't she just dip my pig-tails in an inkwell or something?

Honestly..
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Reply #55 posted 07/30/02 5:15am

ChocolateInvas
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IrishEcho said:

ChocolateInvasion said:

CalhounSq -> hug <- IrishEcho

Please?
peace


Yeah, why doesn't she just dip my pig-tails in an inkwell or something?

Honestly..


Or did you wanted to be the green smiley?

Btw: What ís an Irish echo?
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Reply #56 posted 07/30/02 5:45am

BLACKMF

thecloud9mission said:

Im losing my faith.

All this great music, all these wonderful jams, all created...by an asshole.

Still digging his music but Im no longer sure if I like the person he has become inside evil



Fly on, crybaby. Prince doesnt need you
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Reply #57 posted 07/30/02 5:50am

SexLovely

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BLACKMF said:

thecloud9mission said:

Im losing my faith.

All this great music, all these wonderful jams, all created...by an asshole.

Still digging his music but Im no longer sure if I like the person he has become inside evil



Fly on, crybaby. Prince doesnt need you

Just when I thought U had stopped being a dick...
"...because no-one gets there alone." - "...I like the floor. It's the only thing that seems real."
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Reply #58 posted 07/30/02 5:56am

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((( hug Lewis)))

"U lose nothing...in believing..."

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"...because no-one gets there alone." - "...I like the floor. It's the only thing that seems real."
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Reply #59 posted 07/30/02 6:19am

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what i want to know is this: will the members of the npgmc that were unable to attend the celebration for some reason or another ever get a copy of "days of wild (live in montreal)"...

i wasn't expecting that we would get the cd like the people who attended the celebration, but i had assumed that he would have at least made it a download, so that the rest of us would have an opportunity to hear it...
oral Mr. Ellis Dee-licious, the Official NPGigolo pimp2

Candy Dulfer is my boo... razz
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