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Thread started 06/11/06 4:21pm

mplsmike

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John L Nelson's Lost Album Ft. Prince

I got a question...
I've asked all kinds of P fans if they know, heard of this/it.....None have

I cant remember the date, But im sure it was in 1989. [or around this time]
It was MTV NEWS..here in the U.S....[I know cause i taped it on VHS]....
They said Prince's father John L Nelson's was releasing a new album,
[Independit i think,, And i might be wrong, but they showed a cover 4 it]
Then they said it was something, more like an EP...Called
"Fathers Song"
It featured a few versions of F.S...and i think a couple other song's
And Feature's someone called "Gemini" on Guitar
Of course MTV knew it was Prince as they hinted How he gos under alias's
And hes a gemini....

Then they said it would hit stores in a month or so....

Did it ever come out...any info on it
im guessing not...cause ive never heard,seen,read about this anywhere...

my guess no has heard either...and this will fade away...

Like i said i got this on vhs somewhere...but i have about 15 vhs tapes of prince stuff from 86 - 99..and dont feel like looking for this 2-3 minute clip
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Reply #1 posted 06/11/06 4:52pm

Anx

someone on here posted a few months back and said they owned a copy of this album. i don't know if the person was BSing, or if it was ever released. it would have been pre-internet, so i'm guessing it might have just been given a meager local release in mpls?
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Reply #2 posted 06/11/06 5:06pm

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I know he co-wrote "Scandalous"...

Did they do anything else together?
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Reply #3 posted 06/11/06 5:09pm

Anx

jacknapier said:

I know he co-wrote "Scandalous"...

Did they do anything else together?



his name popped up in the credits of a lot of prince's old albums, including purple rain, ATWIAD, and...i wanna say he had credits on SOTT and parade, but i'd have to go back and take another look...i'm sure someone will be around to correct me soon. biggrin
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Reply #4 posted 06/11/06 5:32pm

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I might be wrong, but i have a good memory when it comes to prince
The cover was mostly white..with black lettering
and there was only 4-5 tracks.
Love Life,
Love God,
And Only Do Drugs You Need
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Reply #5 posted 06/11/06 9:30pm

RodeoSchro

I have it. The CD is called "Father's Song" although that song is not on the CD.

The guitar work is credited to "Gemini" but it's Prince.

Tracklisting:

1. Yes Again
2. There'd be no-way for You and I
3. As I recall
4. Fallin' Down

Executive Producer - God
Producer - Ron Long
Music - John L & Ron Long
Lyrics - Eleanor Landrau
Co-Producer - Sharon Nelson (Prince's half-sister)
Smooth Rap - Sharon Nelson
Piano - John L.
Organ - Ron Long & Gary Montoute
Guitar - Gemini

Dedicated to the memory of Vivian Nelson

Recorded at Acme Studios, Mamaroneck, NY
Engineer - Derrick L. Garrett

Copyright 1994 Vive Records
Copyright 1994 Maken It Music (BMI)
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Reply #6 posted 06/11/06 9:33pm

RodeoSchro

BTW, I never saw it in a store. I ran into Sharon Nelson at a club in NYC sometime in the early-to-mid-90's. After she told me who she was and I went beserk because I was actually talking to Prince's sister, she gave me her card and a copy of the CD. I gave her mine and told her I could book John L. at some of the better clubs in Houston. She said he was going to do a small tour but I never heard from her, and I don't think John L. played Houston (or anywhere else that I've heard of).
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Reply #7 posted 06/11/06 9:34pm

RodeoSchro

Oh yeah, last thing. The front cover is purple, with a full-length picture of John L. in all white with pimp red boots, pointing and winking at the camera.

The back side is black with white lettering.
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Reply #8 posted 06/11/06 11:57pm

mplsmike

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Cool..thanks 4 the info...now the funny thing i have 3 of the tracks from it..
But i always thought they were fakes...another funny thing y havent i read anything about it befor.....And yes i believe u have it
thanks
Love Life,
Love God,
And Only Do Drugs You Need
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Reply #9 posted 06/12/06 12:59am

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RodeoSchro said:

Oh yeah, last thing. The front cover is purple, with a full-length picture of John L. in all white with pimp red boots, pointing and winking at the camera.

The back side is black with white lettering.


this is very interesting,can you post a picture of it please?
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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Reply #10 posted 06/12/06 5:28am

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I've been trying to get this C.D. for years, its literally impossible, no traces of it in Ebay or anywhere..
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Reply #11 posted 06/12/06 5:29am

Anx

EmbattledWarrior said:

I've been trying to get this C.D. for years, its literally impossible, no traces of it in Ebay or anywhere..


i haven't really been trying that hard, but i'd love to at least stumble across mp3s of it someday.
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Reply #12 posted 06/12/06 5:45am

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Anx said:

EmbattledWarrior said:

I've been trying to get this C.D. for years, its literally impossible, no traces of it in Ebay or anywhere..


i haven't really been trying that hard, but i'd love to at least stumble across mp3s of it someday.


nod Me too!
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Reply #13 posted 06/12/06 6:48am

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Tracklisting:

1. Yes Again
2. There'd be no-way for You and I
3. As I recall
4. Fallin' Down


I got a boot in 95 or 96 called "Platinum" and it has those 4 songs on it. They sound more like demos to me. Maybe they had more work done to them?

"Yes Again" is pretty funky, jazz influenced with a coltrane vibe on the piano. There's a Prince voice sample that appears throughout the song that goes "Yes Again". The back-beat is a drum machine and a some pretty funky bass slaps. Lots of organ and a guitar solo as well.

"There'd Be No Way for You and I" is a gospel tune with a female spoken lyrics and male sung chorus. I don't hear Prince vocaly on this one. The chorus goes "A savior lived to die, so there'd be a way for you and I".

"As I Recall" is a jazz instrumental with a chorus vocal line that appears now and then that simply says "As I Recall". Voices sound the same as the previous song.

"Fallin' Down" sounds the same as "Yes Again" but without the vocal tracks. Different Piano too.

In the liner notes, these songs are listed as being part of the album "Father's Song" by John L. Nelson.

Those are the last tracks of the disk. The first are the songs from "I'll do Anything" as well as an award speech ran backswards a "Box Talk" (T.V. Show) commercial (voices from the NPG members) for the Gold Experience album and some tracks that sound like they were from the orginal recordings.
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Reply #14 posted 06/12/06 7:07am

Anx

does it sound as if papa nelson was singing on these songs at all? if so, i'm very curious about what his voice is like. i heard him talk on one of those "access hollywood" type shows once, but i've always wondered what he was like as a musician/performer.
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Reply #15 posted 06/12/06 7:52am

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yamomma said:


I got a boot in 95 or 96 called "Platinum" and it has those 4 songs on it. They sound more like demos to me. Maybe they had more work done to them?


I have Platinum too, it instantly sprung to mind when I saw the thread.

I must dig it out and listen to those tracks, I doubt I've ever spun that boot since I got it must be 10 years ago now 95/96.
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Reply #16 posted 06/12/06 8:33am

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Anx said:

does it sound as if papa nelson was singing on these songs at all? if so, i'm very curious about what his voice is like. i heard him talk on one of those "access hollywood" type shows once, but i've always wondered what he was like as a musician/performer.


No. The male sung chorus on the second and third songs sound like younger studio session peoples.

There is a brief "Ok, now here's where you gonna sing some shit right here now, right?" on the song "Yes Again" It also has some effects on it so I really can't tell who it is.
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Reply #17 posted 06/12/06 12:02pm

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(If anyone is interested in one (sealed) email me an interesting trade offer...)

GONE...

Neversin.
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Reply #18 posted 06/12/06 12:20pm

muirdo

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ha
I forgot i had this boot.
I had always wondered about those songs lol
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
KrystleEyes 22/03/05
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Reply #19 posted 06/12/06 12:21pm

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Anx said:

jacknapier said:

I know he co-wrote "Scandalous"...

Did they do anything else together?



his name popped up in the credits of a lot of prince's old albums, including purple rain, ATWIAD, and...i wanna say he had credits on SOTT and parade, but i'd have to go back and take another look...i'm sure someone will be around to correct me soon. biggrin


i think he had a hand in christopher tracys parade
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Reply #20 posted 06/12/06 12:41pm

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I thought Prince wasn't involved at all. Does anyone know more about 'Gemini' appearing on this?
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Reply #21 posted 06/12/06 1:24pm

mplsmike

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Anx said

i haven't really been trying that hard, but i'd love to at least stumble across mp3s of it someday.
Thes tracks have been floating around for years..i had them,i just never knew where they come from...'or if they were real P tracks or not..cause they dont sound like P... ..if your a big as fan as i am im sure you heard them....
Love Life,
Love God,
And Only Do Drugs You Need
smoker

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Reply #22 posted 06/12/06 1:30pm

Anx

mplsmike said:

Anx said

i haven't really been trying that hard, but i'd love to at least stumble across mp3s of it someday.
Thes tracks have been floating around for years..i had them,i just never knew where they come from...'or if they were real P tracks or not..cause they dont sound like P... ..if your a big as fan as i am im sure you heard them....


shrug

you'd think they'd be on testament or something.
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