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PrintableNot really he was a trend follower by this stage, songs like Everyday is a winding road, are proof that he no longer cared about the forefront, by this stage Prince had nearly retreated into good time militaristic black protestantism with this Jehovah stuff.
His music and values were out of place with musical world in 1999, which saw the rise of Eminem, bling type rap and angry young bands like Linkun park, System of a Down and Slipknot, Princes neo preachy dance soul was out of step. Even on the poppy music Boy band was the rage not 40 something year old hasbeens (Madonna being the exception, but she had to reinvent herself). 1999 was all about post modernism moving beyond the clean and assured stuff. After his mid 90s dalliance with aggressive gangsta rap and cursing he did a 180 and retreated into more deeper music, but he lost his street cool to get a more Miles Davis type cool (Which I liked as well). In an essence, no he wasnt super cool, but he was still a pleaser, Prince is proving he is maturing along with most of his fans collected during his 80s early 90s prime who are mostly I expect in their late 20s to early 40s, who mostly do not want Linkun Park and a Jay Z sound alike. Prince is UNCOOL, But I like it listening to mature accomplished songs like Te Amo Corazon etc. 17 Years ago I made a commitment to Prince | |
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skywalker said: Interesting post... As far as I'm concerned, Prince has completely lost his cool - he's become a pessimistic, conservative, arrogant man. He used to shatter stereotypes - gender and racial stereotypes in particular. His music used to preach salvation and positivity and a higher power but these days he's changed. Now he preaches the bible, jehovah, theocractic orders which suggest that the hierachy of life is God, then Man, then woman and children!! He's taken on very conservative values - but most importantly, he misses the feeling music gave him back in the day - I agree with the last one, especially with his music. Poor Prince - he needs less 'yes' men and more people who are willing to challenge his conservative values. I disagree. Your observations of how Prince has "changed" versus how he "used to be" are all very speculative and based on interpretation. Granted, that's the name of the game around here, but you make some big leaps without a whole lot to back it up. One could easily see Prince in a different light than you, In fact, I don't think Prince has changed all that much. 1st of all, Prince has always been arrogant. From the very start he knew he was the shit. Just watch his "interview" with Dick Clark on American Bandstand. So Prince more is arrogant now? American Bandstand snubbing Dick Clark in 1980 = American Idol snubbing Simon Cowel in 2006. What's the big deal? Same Prince, different year. 2ndly, Prince is pessimistic? Do you get this from interviews? His view on the current state of music? His distain with how the music business is run? Surely you didn't get this from his music. If anything, Prince's music is more positive than ever, both lyrically and productionwise. Prince's music was much more dark, sinister, and paranoid in the 80's. His views about relationships were often based in mistrust, jealousy, insecurity and lust. Nowadays, Prince's lyrics suggest a man who has found the joys of sex,trust, a more spiritual love, and (sometimes) monogamy. Also, Prince usually gravitates to a less dissonant sound than he has in the past. The production of his music is much more warm than it was mechanical and cold in the past. As far as Prince being more conservative---I agree. However, who doesn't become more conservative with age? Also, understand this, conservative for Prince is still way out there for most. If conservative is not sporting assless pants, or bikini briefs on stage, but leaving the heels and the make up on, then that that is not very conservative at all. Face it, to most, Prince is still a freak Bottom line: Our views of Prince come mostly from his music. Thematically, Prince is preaching the same purple gospel he always has. It's still about sex, God, love, and music. Now you have to ask yourself: Is it Prince that a lot changed or you and your perception of him. [Edited 6/11/06 10:18am] [b] EXCELLENT | |
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jayARDAHB said: Interesting post...
As far as I'm concerned, Prince has completely lost his cool - he's become a pessimistic, conservative, arrogant man. He used to shatter stereotypes - gender and racial stereotypes in particular. His music used to preach salvation and positivity and a higher power but these days he's changed. Now he preaches the bible, jehovah, theocractic orders which suggest that the hierachy of life is God, then Man, then woman and children!! He's taken on very conservative values - but most importantly, he misses the feeling music gave him back in the day - I agree with the last one, especially with his music. Poor Prince - he needs less 'yes' men and more people who are willing to challenge his conservative values. Sounds like he just grew up to me and saw the world for what it really is. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Ifsixwuz9 said: jayARDAHB said: Interesting post...
As far as I'm concerned, Prince has completely lost his cool - he's become a pessimistic, conservative, arrogant man. He used to shatter stereotypes - gender and racial stereotypes in particular. His music used to preach salvation and positivity and a higher power but these days he's changed. Now he preaches the bible, jehovah, theocractic orders which suggest that the hierachy of life is God, then Man, then woman and children!! He's taken on very conservative values - but most importantly, he misses the feeling music gave him back in the day - I agree with the last one, especially with his music. Poor Prince - he needs less 'yes' men and more people who are willing to challenge his conservative values. Sounds like he just grew up to me and saw the world for what it really is.  survey SAYS.... *dingdingdingding!*  | |
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jayARDAHB said: Like a true Christian, you eliminate the existence of other religions and Gods. Regardless, it's all really spooky if you ask me.
Listen man, the Jehovah Witnesses are known for their super star conservativism - Prince has always spoken about God and how to live your life and all that but there was something about it all that stressed this: respect for everyone and their perspectives. That ain't the case anymore!! Prince has publicly chastized Wendy and Lisa for being lesbians!! This is coming from a guy who wears high heels and make up!! No matter how you cut it - that's not cool but under Jehovah's rule, homos are bad!! This has affected his music as well - it's tame now. And if you prefer 'Life O' The Party' over Sexual Suicide, well then I feel really sorry for you!! I know it's all a matter of perspective but come on!! Even Prince knows how superiour Sexual Suicide is!! Some of this post seems to suggest that as long as he worshiped in the religion of your chosing you'd be fine with it. And you are still holding a grudge for comment about W&L (which I've never heard him say, but do please point me to the recording of this alleged comment) that they have apparently gotten over otherwise they wouldn't have performed on the Brits with him. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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