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Printable P is making $7 a CD not counting publishing income and money from touring and the CD isn't even good. And he sold 1.2 million.....?
Then failure is a beautiful thing! The man is still #1 at the bank. "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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Since when does a high amount of albums sold equal good music? | |
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carlcranshaw said: P is making $7 a CD not counting publishing income and money from touring and the CD isn't even good. And he sold 1.2 million.....?
Then failure is a beautiful thing! The man is still #1 at the bank. True...P may be number one at the bank, but I am sure that he would like more people to hear his music. | |
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PurpleCharm said: carlcranshaw said: P is making $7 a CD not counting publishing income and money from touring and the CD isn't even good. And he sold 1.2 million.....?
Then failure is a beautiful thing! The man is still #1 at the bank. True...P may be number one at the bank, but I am sure that he would like more people to hear his music. That's where his willingness to promote it comes in. "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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PurpleCharm said: carlcranshaw said: P is making $7 a CD not counting publishing income and money from touring and the CD isn't even good. And he sold 1.2 million.....?
Then failure is a beautiful thing! The man is still #1 at the bank. True...P may be number one at the bank, but I am sure that he would like more people to hear his music. Do you know how many millions of people saw his performance on AI? On Saturday night live? I was gonna post the same info about how much of the pie P gets from each CD....an UNHEARD OF amount when most artists barely make a dollar from each sale...(check out the "behind the music"math lesson from TLC on how 10 million CD sales equate to 30 grand)..for P to sell a million is like hitting the jackpot. "I wasn't invited to shake hands with Hitler, but I wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either" ~ Jesse Owens | |
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metalorange said: leecaldon said: A lot of those (e.g. D&P, Symbol) look way short of the worldwide total and look closer to the US total - they were big sellers in Europe. It's very easy to say that, but incredibly hard to prove it. The person researching it has scoured resources and scraps of information to come to the estimates - the link to their detailed research is included with my above post, and if you can find factual information or find fault with their logic, you're welcome to challenge them. They estimated that D&P achieved figures of 2.78m in the US and 3.67m worldwide = 6.45m which certainly ties in with even what Uptown said; that D&P was only certified RIAA 2million with 4 million sales worldwide. Prince largely achieved what he wanted to do with Diamonds And Pearls. The album became a significant commercial recovery for him. It doubled the sales of Graffiti Bridge and reached number three on Billboard’s Pop Chart and number one on the R&B Chart. It sold in excess of 2 million copies in the US and was certified double platinum. Impressively, the album produced four US Top 30 hits, something that Prince hadn’t achieved since Purple Rain. The record was also a large international success, with sales reaching almost 4 million copies outside of the US. In fact, it became Prince’s biggest selling album worldwide with the exception of Purple Rain. It's just that I had figures of 5.8m in the US for D&P and 3.45m for Symbol. Those figures were from Entertainment Weekly. Not that I'm saying they're right - I just thought D&P was a much bigger hit than 4m worldwide. |
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leecaldon said: It's just that I had figures of 5.8m in the US for D&P and 3.45m for Symbol. Those figures were from Entertainment Weekly. Not that I'm saying they're right - I just thought D&P was a much bigger hit than 4m worldwide. Fair enough, but the RIAA who hand out awards only rate D&P double Platinum, platinum being for a million sold - so they are saying it has sold at least 2 million but not 3 million in the US. If D&P was really 5.8 million it would be 5 platinum - which it isn't. I'm sure Prince's PR people put out figures that are way more impressive than reality. | |
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doesn't a year have to past to constitute whether an album is a failure or not?
christ its only june... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: doesn't a year have to past to constitute whether an album is a failure or not?
christ its only june... Very true...I'm sure his appearances sparked sales also...he's waist deep in the black already on this CD. "I wasn't invited to shake hands with Hitler, but I wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either" ~ Jesse Owens | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: doesn't a year have to past to constitute whether an album is a failure or not?
christ its only june... Man I SO agree with you. People are talking like it is all over jeez! How I long for the days when albums/sales built up over time. These days the window is so small before people start shouting "failure". 1999 built up its sales slowly and surely backed by a continually growing TOUR. The more Prince toured the more the album sold and the bigger the venues for the tour became and so on. The fact is that for Prince at 48 to be shifting over 1 million copies of an album (worldwide) IS very respectable. Means he has earned a cool $7m which ain't bad for a few months work! For the album to sell more Prince needs to: 1. Do a worldwide tour 2. Do more TV appearances 3. Release 3121 on iTunes I can only think that at 48 maybe the idea of touring the world doesn't appeal to Prince. Perhaps earning the mega bucks he did for the Musicology Tour was enough? 'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything. | |
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jaypotton said: EmbattledWarrior said: doesn't a year have to past to constitute whether an album is a failure or not?
christ its only june... Man I SO agree with you. People are talking like it is all over jeez! How I long for the days when albums/sales built up over time. These days the window is so small before people start shouting "failure". 1999 built up its sales slowly and surely backed by a continually growing TOUR. The more Prince toured the more the album sold and the bigger the venues for the tour became and so on. The fact is that for Prince at 48 to be shifting over 1 million copies of an album (worldwide) IS very respectable. Means he has earned a cool $7m which ain't bad for a few months work! For the album to sell more Prince needs to: 1. Do a worldwide tour 2. Do more TV appearances 3. Release 3121 on iTunes I can only think that at 48 maybe the idea of touring the world doesn't appeal to Prince. Perhaps earning the mega bucks he did for the Musicology Tour was enough? Amen to that!. | |
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Everybody REALLY interested in facts and figures about PRINCE's commercial career (albums and singles sales and certifications) should take a look at my following threads:
here in the ORG: PRINCE's Albums and Singles sales: http://www.prince.org/msg/7/189511 in the above thread you can find a link to a (much) more extended and detailed analysis of Prince sales that i posted in the UKMIX forum, a place with a forum only dedicated to charts and sales. Or you just go straight to my post there: PRINCE: the Album sales analysis http://www.ukmix.org/foru...hp?t=34161 (this thread takes some time to read, everything known about PRINCE's sales is there) Also here in the ORG i opened a thread only about PRINCE's Soundscan sales: Prince's Soundscan sales before "3121" : almost 18 million http://www.prince.org/msg/7/182470 Part of the data used in the above threads came from an unexpected source: i had the lucky honour of having my email to "Ask Billboard" answered in "Billboard Online". In the 12 years that Billboard is on the Net only one artist had its complete American sales made public and it was Prince as a reply to my request. take a look at it: Billboard Archive (My question is the last one) Have fun!  | |
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