Cloudbuster said:

it's shocking.

Baby knows is the standout single, i reckon. After that it's pretty hard.

Omadon said:

Funny how many reviewers said it was a return to form.

katt said:

You´re right, Sting did a concert there, and many other singers, too. ( Including Chris De Burg )....Ephesus also has that magical atmosphere ...and my parents are from there.

I once talked with Takumi about this, but he just said Billy Sparks knows best where Prince should play....that maybe true for the USA, but I don´t know how familiar Billy is with the Turkish venues....anyway, interesting that you had the same thought.

Cloudbuster said:

They always say that.

Like that slag on Newsnight Review calling 3121 his "best album since 'sign o the times'".

Omadon said:

I saw that.

To be fair, I consider it one of his more consistant efforts since SOTT.

Cloudbuster said:

To be fair, I honestly think it's pretty terrible, aside from a handful of tracks.

Omadon said:

Only Incense & Candles and Beautiful, Loved & Blessed irritate me.

I think the rest is pretty decent.

Cloudbuster said:

I especially hate those 2 and Love.

Omadon said:

That one and the title track are my faves, bitch!

I shan't be asking you to dance again.

Cloudbuster said:

Whatever. You'll come crawling.

Omadon said:

You always did prefer me on my hands and knees.

Cloudbuster said:

Cloudbuster said:

well that just did it. the icing on the cake. i'm..... i'm tearing up again

katt said:

Pamukkale stands for Cotton Castle and It is a fairly amazing place although when u actaully get there its does not feel to the touch how u imagined it would. I used to live in Turkey so im amazed about this charts thing as when i was there alot of people didnt ven know who he was

Mayte319 said:

It depends. Of course the ticket prices might be a bit outrageous compared to concerts by local heroes like Tarkan, but then again, Micheal Jackson and Madonna ( and Metallica and Sting and countless other artists) have performed in Turkey, so I guess there IS a market but Prince is not really that wellknown any,ore, that´s what I meant when I said he´s lost what little bit of a fanbase he had there. But I still see him mentioned in magazines every now and then.

He would have to rethink his approach, i.e play a lot of classic hits AND a lot of piano/acoustic stuff and melodic stuff, lots of guitar, etc., not the old school soul and funk he did during Musicology...people in Turkiye LOVE music, and they also love rock music, but the heyday of RnB and Soul/Funk is over .

Turks in Germany, on the other hand, love RnB and Funk....( and Turkish pop).

Let me manage Prince in Turkiye and I guarantee you some sold out shows. You just have to know how to do it.

I heard the Turkish waiters put him off.

KoolEaze said:

I've visited Ephesus and I think it was just after the Sting concert, that particular ampitheatre was off-limits as part of it had collapsed due to the weight of too many people - I'm sorry, but atmospheric as they are, ancient theatres are NOT the place to hold rock concerts!!!

Yeah, you´re right, I didn´t consider that.

katt said:

Oh, this topic is very amusing
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KoolEaze said:

I have visited Ephesus amphitheatre many times every time I visit I notice something different for some reason I always feel calm in the amphitheatre not sure what that’s about

I believe Elton John has also done a concert their 2.

CocoChanel said:

Yes Pamukkale does mean Cotton Castle and nope it don’t feel like cotton at all it’s very grainy to touch and salty and the mineral springs are warm. One of my children has eczema and after bathing in the springs within a number of hours his skin had nearly cleared up. Local children are bathed in the natural springs to help heal their Penis after circumcision 1 time when I visited Pamukkale and I had a lot of explaining to do to one of my children he wanted to know all details and when telling him he kept crossing his legs and made me promise never to do that to him

metalorange said:

I do know areas have collapsed but that’s to be expected due to the age of the amphitheatre but I do wish they would fix it with materials that look like they belong there. I have seen two concerts in the amphitheatre and the acoustics/sound quality is brilliant in my opinion it is a place to go and watch concerts I didn’t know they where not doing rock concerts there no more

OzlemUcucu said:

explain

I remember at the time of SOTT, Strange relationship was megabig in Turkey..it was a real floor filler in the clubs. i always found that peculiar as it was not even a single.
I watched Duran Duran in Cesme Ampitheatre in the 90s and they broke in to Sexy MF which was damn cool. It would be really cool if P did perform in Ephesus amphiteatre...2000 years old and still going strong - In fact i believe Sting will be performing there again soon....I doubt P will though...he appears to have settled in the US and forgotten all about Europe let alone Turkey which is a shame because I'm sure he would find it inspiring.

katt said:

Yeah, the age of the ampitheatre... and the weight of thousands of people clomping all over it at once and the vibrations of massive speakers! Or do you think that does not contribute to its decay? I'm sure they love holding concerts there because they need the income to pay for the excavations, but there's hardly any point if it helps to destroy the very things they are uncovering!

from various websites:

The British star Sting performed in the ancient amphitheater of Ephesus. Because of the loud intense sonic vibrations cracks have developed in the upper tiers of the theater and they are now closed for repair.

Sting's first performance in Turkey was performed at the ancient Greek amphitheatre around the corner from the first library in the world and the whorehouse. The amphitheatre was overcrowded, leading to the suspicion that the promoter has offered extra tickets for sale above the agreed limit. "Somebody's made a lot of money here", said Sting to a reporter of Q magazine.
English security was flown over. There were no barriers between the audience and the band, just dry moat, packed with photographers, a video crew and both Turkish and British security.

After Sting's appearance the amphitheatre was closed by local authorities to the public for two years, because of fear of greater damage to the monument.