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Thread started 06/05/06 11:14am

Taurus

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The Black Album

I was listening to the black ablum this weekend and almost forgot hom much i enjoy it from beginning to end. I got to thinking..... what if Prince actually released this album in 1988 instead of Lovesexy? How would this had affected his carrer? I mean I love LOVESEXY, but Prince lost a lot of commercial appeal with that release. Just curious what some of the orgers think.

How differently would Prince's career had been with The Black Album released instead of Lovesexy?
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Reply #1 posted 06/05/06 11:16am

Finess

Black and Lovesexy should have been a Double album. the battle of good and evil. everyone i know has agreed with me over the years about that.
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Reply #2 posted 06/05/06 11:16am

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Finess said:

Black and Lovesexy should have been a Double album. the battle of good and evil. everyone i know has agreed with me over the years about that.

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Reply #3 posted 06/05/06 11:20am

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Finess said:

Black and Lovesexy should have been a Double album. the battle of good and evil. everyone i know has agreed with me over the years about that.

black/sexy saved my life! biggrin


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[Edited 6/5/06 11:20am]
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Reply #4 posted 06/05/06 11:26am

NouveauDance

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Taurus said:

How differently would Prince's career had been with The Black Album released instead of Lovesexy?


Seeing as Lovesexy exists purely because the Black Album was cancelled, and the latter album wasn't going to be a major "Prince" release, but more of a side-project akin to the Madhouse records - If it hadn't been cancelled it more than likely would've gone like this: TBA is released, work continues on the original incarnation of Graffiti Bridge, and the album is the follow-up to SOTT as planned. More than likely Tim Burton would've still contacted Prince to work on Batman, thus ending the 80s, not entirely differently than he actually did - After that, it kinda gets more difficult to play 'what if'.

Finess' point about LS and TBA being a double album - Battle of good and evil, I think that's something that's occured to every Prince fan, and would've been a great idea to play out, but following a double album with a double album wasn't very likely, even if Prince had wanted to release the TBA material as a 'canon' Prince album.
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Reply #5 posted 06/05/06 11:27am

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Taurus said:

I was listening to the black ablum this weekend and almost forgot hom much i enjoy it from beginning to end. I got to thinking..... what if Prince actually released this album in 1988 instead of Lovesexy? How would this had affected his carrer? I mean I love LOVESEXY, but Prince lost a lot of commercial appeal with that release. Just curious what some of the orgers think.

How differently would Prince's career had been with The Black Album released instead of Lovesexy?



The Black Album being released instead of LoveSexy wouldn't have made much difference IMHO...I had a bootlegged copy of it (got it from an ex who had a serious Prince hookup somewhere in this world... lol ) and it didn't play very well for the circle of Prince lovers I hung out with back in the day...in fact, LS comparitively was better recieved....and trust me LS wasn't liked too much either....

...coming on the heels of SOTT, neither one really matched up....
again IMHO...
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
(George Eliot)

the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #6 posted 06/05/06 11:42am

origmnd

He would've OD'd.
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Reply #7 posted 06/05/06 1:56pm

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back in 1987-88, the black album bootleg was the only prince record that seemed to interest my non fanatic friends, they thought it just sounded so crazy and cool. It would have (from my observation) made Prince a million times cooler in the young public eye.

I still remember when Batman (album) came out, the question I got was, "Is it as good as the Black Album?" I had to tell them no.

And when they judged for themsleves, they never wanted copies of ANY other prince album. And it wasn't the bootleg factor, they were not collectors. These were male college students (white and black and asian).
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Reply #8 posted 06/05/06 2:06pm

Singingboy

I like the Black Album. I think Lovesexy is the worst Prince album, it's too bizarre and dull for my liking.
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Reply #9 posted 06/05/06 6:40pm

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ufoclub said:

back in 1987-88, the black album bootleg was the only prince record that seemed to interest my non fanatic friends, they thought it just sounded so crazy and cool. It would have (from my observation) made Prince a million times cooler in the young public eye.

I still remember when Batman (album) came out, the question I got was, "Is it as good as the Black Album?" I had to tell them no.
[Edited 6/5/06 13:56pm]

Lovesexy is my favorite Prince album. I've always considered The Black Album to be horrendously overrated. I'd rather listen to Batman any day.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #10 posted 06/05/06 6:42pm

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AlexdeParis said:

ufoclub said:

back in 1987-88, the black album bootleg was the only prince record that seemed to interest my non fanatic friends, they thought it just sounded so crazy and cool. It would have (from my observation) made Prince a million times cooler in the young public eye.

I still remember when Batman (album) came out, the question I got was, "Is it as good as the Black Album?" I had to tell them no.
[Edited 6/5/06 13:56pm]

Lovesexy is my favorite Prince album. I've always considered The Black Album to be horrendously overrated. I'd rather listen to Batman any day.


Well you would definitely have been in the minority back then!
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Reply #11 posted 06/05/06 7:27pm

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ufoclub said:

AlexdeParis said:


Lovesexy is my favorite Prince album. I've always considered The Black Album to be horrendously overrated. I'd rather listen to Batman any day.


Well you would definitely have been in the minority back then!

eye no wink

"Lovesexy is the one
'Til my day is done!"
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"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #12 posted 06/05/06 10:05pm

paisleyfreek

I first (and only) heard "Le Grind" one nite while listening 2 KUNI (Univ. Northern Iowa) College Radio. 1998. It was 'alternative night'. Quite a treat from the saturated top40 we choose from. Bleh. It was groundbreakin on a personal scale, but then immediately fell from the waves and ears.

"Stranded at the drive-in, branded a fool"
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Reply #13 posted 06/05/06 10:15pm

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The Black Album isnt Evil!
The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #14 posted 06/05/06 10:28pm

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The Black Album is funk city!!
He shoulda released it at the same time as Metallica's Black Album haha now then people would get confused and metal heads would be gettin a nice dose of funk injected into their ears....assuming the tinitus has worn off haha
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Reply #15 posted 06/06/06 12:41pm

origmnd

I was hoping 3121 would be ,musically, a black album, without the dark lyrics.
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Reply #16 posted 06/06/06 1:34pm

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The Black Album & Lovesexy are 2 sides of the same coin. I do like Lovesexy better, though, I think the songwriting is stronger.

When 2 R In Love & maybe Rock Hard are the only two good songs in terms of songwriting. All of them are great in terms of performance & creativity.

Actually, I think The Black Album was the first place where the arrangements & performance became more important than the song, and that's something that's plagued Prince's music since then.
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Reply #17 posted 06/07/06 12:55am

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Bitch, who you calling Bitch?
The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #18 posted 06/07/06 3:34am

Illustrator

New coat, huh? That's nice.
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Reply #19 posted 06/09/06 9:21am

Handclapsfinga
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lazycrockett said:

Bitch, who you calling Bitch?

who you callin' bitch, ho bitch? lol
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Reply #20 posted 06/09/06 9:37am

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NouveauDance said:

Taurus said:

How differently would Prince's career had been with The Black Album released instead of Lovesexy?


Seeing as Lovesexy exists purely because the Black Album was cancelled, and the latter album wasn't going to be a major "Prince" release, but more of a side-project akin to the Madhouse records - If it hadn't been cancelled it more than likely would've gone like this: TBA is released, work continues on the original incarnation of Graffiti Bridge, and the album is the follow-up to SOTT as planned. More than likely Tim Burton would've still contacted Prince to work on Batman, thus ending the 80s, not entirely differently than he actually did - After that, it kinda gets more difficult to play 'what if'.

Finess' point about LS and TBA being a double album - Battle of good and evil, I think that's something that's occured to every Prince fan, and would've been a great idea to play out, but following a double album with a double album wasn't very likely, even if Prince had wanted to release the TBA material as a 'canon' Prince album.



Totally agree.
If the Black Album had been released, there wouldn't have been a Lovesexy.
Instead, Prince would've released a different album in '88... probably
(a very different) Graffiti Bridge or Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic.
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Reply #21 posted 06/09/06 10:31am

AugustAugust

I too just plugged into the Black Album two weeks ago again....Damn that album rocks. Too me it's Prince at his funkiest and on the fringe...makes digging Prince cool. A double album with lovesexy good and Evil black and white...I like it. I wish you heaven to Bob George...cool.

And songs like Cindy C. I play this for my friends who don't like Prince and they go...wow, I get it.
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Reply #22 posted 06/09/06 10:43am

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NDRU said:


Actually, I think The Black Album was the first place where the arrangements & performance became more important than the song, and that's something that's plagued Prince's music since then.

thumbs up!
I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #23 posted 06/09/06 12:23pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

lazycrockett said:

Bitch, who you calling Bitch?

who you callin' bitch, ho bitch? lol


who you calling ho bitch? black ho bitch!


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Reply #24 posted 06/09/06 3:32pm

1999n3121

Finess said:

Black and Lovesexy should have been a Double album. the battle of good and evil. everyone i know has agreed with me over the years about that.


This would never have happened for two reasons: It would have had to require Prince to wait longer than a year to release an album (which he was not about at the time); it also sounds good in theory, but when put to tape (which I have done), it doesn't really make any better a statement. Now perhaps if they had been released as part one and two of an album with a different name (pt. 1: The Black Album, and pt. 2: Lovesexy), that might have made a splash. As it was, Prince did lots of material from both albums, so it may have made more sense, cohesively.
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Reply #25 posted 06/09/06 3:47pm

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1999n3121 said:

Finess said:

Black and Lovesexy should have been a Double album. the battle of good and evil. everyone i know has agreed with me over the years about that.


This would never have happened for two reasons: It would have had to require Prince to wait longer than a year to release an album .

confuse Because?
I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #26 posted 06/27/06 5:20pm

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what if Prince made Black Album and Lovesexy as a Double Album...
and called it "Gemini"
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
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