Thumparello said:

littleredcrvt said:

Brother, slow the hell down - 75 instruments? Can't you use your sense a little and see that this is unreasonable? You probably heard wrong, he said 25 not 75, and even that is a little over the edge IMO. Do you really think it takes a lot of practise to handle a tambourine? Don't get me wrong, it's amazing how that man can play, but don't overestimate it.

shygirl said:

Then explain to me what got millions of people to buy his music. He doesn't play instruments like Prince does, but he damn well knows how to sing and dance and entertain. What is the problem? Oh right, the plastic surgeries... He has lived with the press and media up his ass ALL his life. Maybe if you had any idea about human psycology you'd know that delusion of your own appearance can be caused if you aren't strong enough to handle it. Michael apparently didn't.

MJ helped paved the way 4 Prince?,Not!! Dig up, Mr. Wonder who is a do everything producer helped pave the way 4 prince. MJ paved the way 4 the Bobby Brown's and Usher's of the world. MJ is a great artist but he is not a musician. Just bcuz u can bounce a b-ball does'nt make u a b-ball playa!!! MJ was accepted by the masses at a very young age that continued thru adulthood but Prince started out misunderstood and is still to this day but Prince's diverse taste in music will always keep him out of the top 10 on a commercial Billboard chart level. Prince has become the most influential artist of his time and most admired musician of his time. Just ask any of the artists of the so called neo-soul movement or No Doubt,Beck,or even the neptunes,and me'shell. The media may have shunned him but Prince lives on thru his music and thru his influence on this generation as well as MJ and his video influences. MJ is a superstar but Prince is on another level musically.

Thumparello said:

Prince is sampled more and RE-MADE more than any jacksons

When lil'sister Janet wanted some music she went 2 minneapolis and not to Neverneverland Ranch. Now if MJ was a musician he could have produced his sister but he is not, so he can't. By the way Scream was produced by who? Even MJ had 2 bowdown 2 the minneapolis funk! Read the booklet in Janet's Design of A Decade and the answer is right there 4 all 2 see. Sooo..sexy, the undisputed truth that is!

In that case if Michael is known for dancing and singing then JLO is the queen of POP. She dances just as well as him and they both really dont have good voices, Michael has a better voice but not a strong one. But Jennifer has a better ASS by far. However Michael is a better Actor than her, his performance in the BAD video is far better than any of her acting, but to quote her producer, when she sings in ths studio we Mute the vocals and watch the booty. And as for Michael its in his contracts with any show he does or is on, he MUST BE CALLED the KING OF POP or he will not appear or probably sue. So Michael and JLO, king and queen of POP sounds good to me, wait maybe Britney, she has better dancing skills but she doesnt sing LIVE, oh wait they all Lipsynch...

I just wanna say 4 the record...as much I totally loved MJ (back in the day) and how much I still like 2 listen 2 his old stuff, he is not 1/2 the talent P is, not as songwriter, musician or singer.

Shoulda left them kids alone.

Why does there have to be all this comparison between artists? You either like someone or you don't. Everyone is into something different. Titles like "king of pop" and "greatest band since the Beatles" doesn't really mean squat. I can't tell you how many bands have been "great like the Beatles" or the "queen of this or that" "king of this."

You don't have to play an instrument to be a talented musician. I know big producers today who are a) don't play any instruments or b) just mediocre musicians but they have this knack for writing and putting together good songs.

There is something for everyone out there. Great multi-instrumentalists like Prince who can play, dance and sing. Great instrumentalists who can't sing, but can play their asses off. Or just drop dead gorgeous, half-singing, ass shaking entertainers who put on a good dance choreographed show while lip synching and that list goes on. Even though the latter sounds easy as pie, being a pop artist with dance moves is just as hard work as a band. If there were just a bunch of talent like Prince's out there, then it would be pretty boring besides Prince being pissed that he would have all that competition to deal with.

It is what is. You like what you like and when it's all said and done - no one really gives a shit anyway. You don't think Michael's so great - there will always be people somewhere who thinks he is.


Just a couple of pennies,

LQ

"Michael is an okay-singer, like Britney Spears"

... oh right, I see... and You ?? You are an okay-orger, like anyone around here, but you post that amount of shit... and you think you're defending Prince by making this kind of paralels ???
How old ?? 15, 16 ?? Go to bed now...

What is a Kind of Pop? Isn't that a soda? I think you are looking for the King Of Pop. Well Michael Jackson is Cool sure enuf but there is only 1 Prince.

Vagina said:

"...before soda pop had fizz, don't blame it on your jock strap full of jizz"

I would also like to mention that a friend of mine named Bernard wrote Remember The Time for Michael Jackson and is still collecting publishing checks and although I liked the song and the track which was also produced by Bernard, he admitted to me and others it was a no brainer and it was just something he did to feed his family. While I agree people who make music should be compensated, I think creations like this are the source for all the trouble in the music industry these days. People don't really put their imagination and creativity to work thay are just in search of some quick bucks. One of the main reasons why I love Prince is because even though he too believes artists and I use the term loosely should be paid for the part they play in making records, he never seems to do music in exchange for money. His music is always daring and full of integrity.

LadyQ said:

i feel the same way when u said that there is something for everyone out there. being able to play insturments shouldn't be the only thing that determines talent.

Ever think prince.org needs a forum dedicated to MJ???

jnoel said:

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actually darling,
i own an album of celine and whitney.

i have in my home a video called: celine dion's UNISON. this is a video of her videos and live concerts from her first English album in the Usa. the video also contains interveiws from producers and from Celine telling about how the songs are chosen, how she got a manager, how she feels like when she is recording, etc.

i also listened to celine's new album couple of times and have already listened to the new whiteny song which has been leaked on to the internet.

the only connection i think celine has with mj is:
1. after seeing mj wins all those AMA awards, she wanted to be on CBS records.
2. Celine performed mj's Bad on her concerts. she was also dressed as mj and was dancing like the footsteps in the video.

yes i know who james brown is. he is the guy told the world: i am proud to be a BLACK man.(thus, the term changed from NEGRO).
the fact u listen stuff 30 decades from me will obviuosly give u more knowledge on him.

and love, about :Peter Gabriel and Sting,
Sting is known for his hits from Police mostly and some few songs in the USA. if he didn't sold out for his last (studio) album, it wouldn't have been a hit.
i know who Peter Gabriel is too.

and i ain't talking about MUSICALLY_INFLUNECE!
i am talking about their impact on FASHION, BREAKING RECORDS AND HAVING LONGETIVITY WITH REALLY EXCELLENT RESULTS.

and it took prince the "1999" album to put him really mainstream.

and i said Prince couldn't sing well live.(READ THE POST) i know and it is apparent he has a great range. i perfer his voice recorded than live because he sings on time the lyrics.

it is about the buisness too. not just the music.
for ex:, when maddy choses artists to be on her own label, she can learn from them.

from the posts on several threads, prince chose artists based on their looks and sex-appeal. if any of the ppl. had any talent, it went a bit successful but the lack of the promation or if the group broke up did hinder any future success.

ELBOOGY said:

i actually read the inside of the book and it basically said janet saw prince play live, but she then hooked up with the 2 guys: terry jam and lewis, who ended up being fired. janet saved her career whom ppl. said she would disappear in a few years after she hooked up.

lastdecember said:

why include j-lo? frogot maddy?!
its true that mj's acting is better than j-lo's.

want me to give u a list of the progressions of mj's vocals both live and recorded from as a kid to current?

subyduby said:

Whitney? Such intrigue!



Yuck.


WRONG. It didn't change from 'negro' because of that.


30 Decades?


Of course you're not because you don't know anything about something like that.


Your point is pointless.


And you're still wrong.


Close, but incorrect.

poor subi obviously you're on the wrong site, you arguments are those of a brainless parrot.

“actually darling,i own an album of celine and whitney” wtf honey? I own an album of “lauryn” and “tracy”…

"Sting is known for his hits from Police mostly and some few songs in the USA. if he didn't sold out for his last (studio) album, it wouldn't have been a hit"
Let alone that it’s funny to read a mj fan describing Sting as “sell out”- maybe you’ll realize that Sting's music will be listened forever and soon mj will be considered as a pop 20th century curiosity like Pokemon.
I was teenager in the 80s & at this time as a music lover I was curious to know more about pop history, there are so many things to discover from Motown to Stax to Hendrix to ska to british new wave..., you big mouth are proud of your daring musical references : "celine", "mariah", "michael", "maddy", “janet”, don't worry be silly...
& where did you see mj having an impact since his Thriller days on fashion? Oh it’s true: some black folks bleach their skins too because they have integrated this inferiority mentality complex…

Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix have made an infinitely more important impact on the occidental culture that your poor jacko..

"HAVING LONGETIVITY WITH REALLY EXCELLENT RESULTS" some will call it selling his soul to the system...

" i perfer his voice recorded than live because he sings on time the lyrics." yeah a true mj fan...

"prince chose artists based on their looks and sex-appeal. if any of the ppl. had any talent", once again you prove to know shit about P, Carmen Electra wasn't fortunately the only Paisley Park signature, you don't know Sheila E , Madhouse Eric Leeds, Mavis & George Clinton, Jill Jones...(even the band "3 o' clock" was imo interesting...) do you?

“james brown is(…) the guy told the world: i am proud to be a BLACK man” can you cite 3 of his songs?
& Maceo Parker ( again I bet that you don’t know who Maceo is) hasn’t worked yet with “celine” or “michael”…

“and it took prince the "1999" album to put him really mainstream. "
I'm sure you don't even know "when you were mine" or “ I feel for you”, & I suppose that "Nothing compares 2 u" was a shitty song before 1990... like Bono said “fuck the mainstream”..
& thanks for the “30 decades” , lmao

And the Prince vs Michael saga continues!!!