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Thread started 07/27/02 3:46pm

littleredcrvt

Micheal Jackson the so called kind of pop...

I have learned to respect artists for their ability to write, sing, and play instruments.. and when it comes to Pricne, I think he wins in the catagory of being one of the most talented artists around. But then there is Micheal Jackson... everyone knows him as the"King Of Pop" But really what is sooo great about him? I understand that he has been playin music since he was a kid, but does that really make you talented? I mean Britney Spears has been "Singing" since she was 3, and she isn't at all talented. So as I see it, Micheal Jackson is an okay singer, I will give him that much... but musically talented... he may play an instrument or two, but I've never seen him play too much on stage, all he does is dance around... and the crowd loves it. Prince can play well over 75 instruments and his vocal ablities absolutely shock me... and as far as writing goes, he has it down! But yet he doesn't get as much credit as Micheal Jackson. Now I can stomach to see Micheal Jackson get rewards for SOME ood things he has come out with in his past... but what about Prince? I know we all know about Prince and how amazingly talented he is... but what about everyone else? I wish Prince could just get ALL the credit he rightfuly deserves. I know that he may not want it... but when I hear the artists that are out today I have to think and say "Why do people like this when there is so much more great talent than this..." I guess I would just like it if people would respect him more! =)
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Reply #1 posted 07/27/02 3:53pm

soulsinger56

wut the fuck prince doesn play 75 he plays 27 and the KING OF POP plays 7
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Reply #2 posted 07/27/02 3:57pm

littleredcrvt

actually he has mastered well over 50, and in an interveiw he has said that he can play around 75... I just got that info fro the interveiw with him, I could be wrong, but hey.. he is still way more talented than most artists out there.
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Reply #3 posted 07/27/02 4:03pm

Supernova

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littleredcrvt said:

Prince can play well over 75 instruments

reading
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We've gone from 26 to 75.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #4 posted 07/27/02 4:04pm

Vagina

I said this a long time ago. He definitely doesn't get enough respect from people. He's so talented and ahead of his time and a lot of people dis him and call him weird. They are more caught up in his Image then his MUSIC. And they never seem to understand what he tries to do. Only Hard-core Fans seem to Understand.
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Reply #5 posted 07/27/02 4:32pm

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I saw Michael Jackson at K-Mart the other day, turns out that he had read...



















that kid's pants were half off.
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #6 posted 07/27/02 4:49pm

LadyCabDriver

squirrelgrease said:

I saw Michael Jackson at K-Mart the other day, turns out that he had read...



















that kid's pants were half off.

omg lol
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Reply #7 posted 07/27/02 4:55pm

buttcheeks

I'm sure both have played the Skin Flute~
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Reply #8 posted 07/27/02 4:58pm

subyduby

although it is true that prince can probably do more musicically or lyrically or even vocally than most artists, other factors do count.
unlike mj and maddy and a few others, prince never really was a major main-stream artist, and he went underground in the mid-90s and he hasn't revived his career like maddy for example. unlike a few artists, prince isn't a good business person.
prince is mostly remembered for his better songs from the 80s, but he hasn't really contributed to the 80s like mj or maddy. he isn't a video pioneer and his attitude putts of many ppl.

mj is mostly called the king of pop because he is the world's biggest star. even if u don't think he is talented, no one can deny his importance. mj is the world's biggest star as a solo artist after elvis(who i read just composed, or produced but never written a song and just imitated the black acts' style.)if it weren't for his love for elementary thing, too much plastic surgery, and even the color change, mj is the most successful black ENTERTAINIER. and he broke several(not all) records of the beatles,etc.

prince doesn't get much recognition becuase his songs cover many different grounds and mostly can be understood by hard-core fans. ppl. don't deny prince's talents but he hasn't longetivity than a few artists and wasn't for the people like mj was. prince was for himself and if he did anything, it was mostly indiviualy-thought rather where mj was more with the ppl.

ppl. like whitney and celine who 99% of the time just sing, are considred talented based on their voices. they don't write much or produce much or have great videos, but have lasted longer than prince and are more successful.
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Reply #9 posted 07/27/02 5:36pm

pm1

DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND LISTEN TO "TRIUMPH" BY THE JACKSONS.



THAT IS WHEN HE WAS FANTASTIC.



LISTENED TO IT ALL DAY DRIVIN' AROUND LONDON AND IT WAS SO AMAZING AND REFRESHING . I ALMOST FORGOT HOW HAPPY AND EXCITING HIS MUSIC WAS. BURSTING WITH ENERGY.


WOW. WHAT HAPPENED ?
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Reply #10 posted 07/27/02 5:44pm

adorable2

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subyduby said:[quote] prince isn't a good business person.
Just merely asking, but what the hell does being a good business person have to do with musical talent? You really could have left that part out. Prince isn't an accountant or stock broker, he is a musician! What the fuck? Oh and can someone at the org name 75instruments for me/
I'm an org elitist... totally unapproachable.

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Reply #11 posted 07/27/02 5:54pm

subyduby

adorable2 said:[quote]

subyduby said:

prince isn't a good business person.
Just merely asking, but what the hell does being a good business person have to do with musical talent? You really could have left that part out. Prince isn't an accountant or stock broker, he is a musician! What the fuck? Oh and can someone at the org name 75instruments for me/



well, after reading some threads by few posters,prince's troubles was basically over business. right? didn't he feel that he could still make more money and sell less if he did it his own way?!
thus, he wrote "slave" on him and turned himself into a symbol. and soon after, his videos didn't recive much airplay,etc. and he went underground.



maddy has maverick which became pretty successful and is featured on several business magazines(according to her loyal fans).
mj owns a lot of things under alias names and under the name MJJ, for example: MJJ porductions,etc.
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Reply #12 posted 07/27/02 11:36pm

jnoel

subyduby said:

blah blah

You said that P can't sing moron, you know shit about him I'm sure you can't even cite 2 songs from Emancipation or Cystal Ball, go suck mj dick somewhere else.
"prince isn't a good business person" who gives a fuck, it's about music, npt pizzas clown
"prince never really was a major main-stream artist" once agian your stupidity shines
"but he hasn't really contributed to the 80s like mj or maddy"Peter Gabriel or Sting are more important in music history that your poor pathetic reference.
"no one can deny his importance" his songs are as empty as your brain

"but he hasn't longetivity than a few artists and wasn't for the people " talking shit & say nothing again, (do you even know who James Brown is?)

"but he hasn't longetivity than a few artists and wasn't for the people like mj was. prince was for himself and if he did anything, it was mostly indiviualy-thought rather where mj was more with the ppl."
I'm sure you don't even know The Glamorous life, Sugarwalls or Nothin Compare 2 U shithead

"ppl. like whitney and celine who 99% of the time just sing, are considred talented based on their voices. they don't write much or produce much or have great videos, but have lasted longer than prince and are more successful" you've read that again on a mj site & paste it here
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Reply #13 posted 07/27/02 11:44pm

Christopher

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squirrelgrease said:

I saw Michael Jackson at K-Mart the other day, turns out that he had read...



















that kid's pants were half off.




you are so bad lol

ha ha
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Reply #14 posted 07/27/02 11:53pm

Wolf

subyduby said:

unlike mj and maddy and a few others, prince never really was a major main-stream artist,


You really have NO clue don't you? At first I thought it was just an act, but you don't have a clue.

and he went underground in the mid-90s


What the hell are you talking about? He never went underground until he decided to put out albums on his own label, and that didn't happen in the mid 90s.

unlike a few artists, prince isn't a good business person.


Yeah unlike a few. Not many musicians are good business people, so the fuck what! This is about music.

prince is mostly remembered for his better songs from the 80s, but he hasn't really contributed to the 80s like mj or maddy.


God you're an idiot. You're out in the sticks talking about what you THINK is going on in America. You don't know the first thing about it with idiot statements like that.

mj is mostly called the king of pop because he is the world's biggest star.

No fool. MJ is called the king of pop because that's what he crowned HIMSELF.

don't deny prince's talents but he hasn't longetivity than a few artists


Sorry dummy. He's been kicking it for going on 25 years, and still gets people to pay top dollar to see him in concert. You're just stupid.

and wasn't for the people like mj was. prince was for himself and if he did anything, it was mostly indiviualy-thought rather where mj was more with the ppl.

So the fuck what, you can recite what you read in an article posted here on this site. Very unimpressive and demonstrates you can't make up your own mind. That's the whole problem.

ppl. like whitney and celine who 99% of the time just sing, are considred talented based on their voices. they don't write much or produce much or have great videos, but have lasted longer than prince and are more successful.

Your stupidity is ASTOUNDING! None of the people you mentioned have even been in the business as long as Prince. Go back to school and learn something. Running off at the mouth without knowing shit about what you're talking about. Shut the hell up! You make yourself look like a big fool! You really don't know much about Prince at all, but you want to come off as an expert. You're nuts
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Reply #15 posted 07/28/02 12:17am

jnoel

Wolf is a wise animal/ man/ woman question smile

Wolf said:

subyduby said:

unlike mj and maddy and a few others, prince never really was a major main-stream artist,

You really have NO clue don't you? At first I thought it was just an act, but you don't have a clue.
and he went underground in the mid-90s

What the hell are you talking about? He never went underground until he decided to put out albums on his own label, and that didn't happen in the mid 90s.
unlike a few artists, prince isn't a good business person.


Yeah unlike a few. Not many musicians are good business people, so the fuck what! This is about music.

prince is mostly remembered for his better songs from the 80s, but he hasn't really contributed to the 80s like mj or maddy.


God you're an idiot. You're out in the sticks talking about what you THINK is going on in America. You don't know the first thing about it with idiot statements like that.

mj is mostly called the king of pop because he is the world's biggest star.

No fool. MJ is called the king of pop because that's what he crowned HIMSELF.

don't deny prince's talents but he hasn't longetivity than a few artists


Sorry dummy. He's been kicking it for going on 25 years, and still gets people to pay top dollar to see him in concert. You're just stupid.

and wasn't for the people like mj was. prince was for himself and if he did anything, it was mostly indiviualy-thought rather where mj was more with the ppl.

So the fuck what, you can recite what you read in an article posted here on this site. Very unimpressive and demonstrates you can't make up your own mind. That's the whole problem.

ppl. like whitney and celine who 99% of the time just sing, are considred talented based on their voices. they don't write much or produce much or have great videos, but have lasted longer than prince and are more successful.

Your stupidity is ASTOUNDING! None of the people you mentioned have even been in the business as long as Prince. Go back to school and learn something. Running off at the mouth without knowing shit about what you're talking about. Shut the hell up! You make yourself look like a big fool! You really don't know much about Prince at all, but you want to come off as an expert. You're nuts
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Reply #16 posted 07/28/02 12:46am

Wolf

jnoel said:

Wolf is a wise animal/ man/ woman question smile


Male. Thank you. smile
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Reply #17 posted 07/28/02 2:32am

Gilius

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What's up with this myth of Prince playing 27 instruments, let alone 75. Anyone with any common sense at all can see and hear that he plays:

-guitar
-bass
-drums (as in drum kit)
-some percussion
-keyboards

That's it folks, really. He cannot play wind instruments or instruments from the violin family (including cello and double bass). If you count every little percussion instrument on 'For You', as they did to make Prince look more impressive, then indeed you can get to 27 instruments. But consider that tapping a telephone pole could be considered playing an instrument, it's not that hard for any of us to play thousands of instruments.
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Reply #18 posted 07/28/02 6:40am

Rhondab

pm1 said:

DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND LISTEN TO "TRIUMPH" BY THE JACKSONS.



THAT IS WHEN HE WAS FANTASTIC.



LISTENED TO IT ALL DAY DRIVIN' AROUND LONDON AND IT WAS SO AMAZING AND REFRESHING . I ALMOST FORGOT HOW HAPPY AND EXCITING HIS MUSIC WAS. BURSTING WITH ENERGY.


WOW. WHAT HAPPENED ?



Ok, Ok...I'm SO AGREEING WITH YOU. I get so tired of the MJ bashing...Mike is Mike and Prince is Prince...and I don't care what ya'll say...my 34 year old ass was screamin' like a 6 year old when I watched the Jacksons on that MJ anniversary special...I LOVED TRUIMPH AND DESTINY...so whateva...

I love Prince and I think Prince is musically more talented than Mike...but I still shook my ass in front of that damn tv when the brothers took the stage. (gigglin')

I love me some prince fo real...but i'm not going to dog Mike's music...there's plenty of things to dog him about...believe me.

Oh and by the way...Mike did crown himself the King of Pop and even made MTV call him that every time they talked about him...his son is named Prince not because of "our" Prince but because Mike sees himself as the KING...this is the shit you should get pissed about...not his music.



afro pick in' my fro for all my pimp s
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Reply #19 posted 07/28/02 6:44am

waterhead

I thought it said "the so called king of poop" at first. Now I see that it actually says "the so called kind of pop." Kind of pop? What kind of pop? Pepsi I guess. He did commercials for Pepsi anyway.
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Reply #20 posted 07/28/02 12:32pm

JimmyNothing

Not to take anything away from Prince, but I get a little tired of hearing how he plays 27 different instruments.

In essence, he only plays 4 instruments: Piano, guitar, drums, bass.

Don't get me wrong, this is an AMAZING accomplishment, but it sure ain't 27 unless you're counting variations of the above 4 like acoustic guitar, electronic keyboards, electronic drums, etc. to enhance the legend (which IMO you should NOT count).

But let's be realistic in the count . . . and let's not call him a master of, say, the tamborine, triangle, kazoo, or finger-cymbals (that's how ridiculous the 27 number sounds).

eek
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Reply #21 posted 07/28/02 12:34pm

theC

SO-CALLED KING GIVES BIRTH 2 SO-CALLED...PRINCE
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Reply #22 posted 07/28/02 12:39pm

JimmyNothing

As for Michael's talents, he is best known for singing and dancing.

I'm sure he'll always be remembered as the best-dancing male pop star (even though IMO that title is not deserved).

Let's not forget that MJ gave the "King Of Pop" title to himself . . .
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Reply #23 posted 07/28/02 12:46pm

Thumparello

MJ vs. Prince. This is so stupid, their is no "versus" anything. Prince is completely off the charts now, and is considered a has-been by common belief. MJ is on his way out as well. Now we all know they both have great talent and have made their mark in history. MJ has been the darling of the music world since he was 9 years old. You can't and will never be able to take that away,he was there FIRST!! I dig Prince but Micheal , James Brown and others set the path for what Prince did later. I know alot of you fans thing he is totally all "original" and the most multitalented artist on this planet, but I'm going to tell you he is not. Everyone has there time in the spotlight.
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Reply #24 posted 07/28/02 12:51pm

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subyduby said:[quote]prince is mostly remembered for his better songs from the 80s, but he hasn't really contributed to the 80s like mj or maddy. [quote]
Prince gave the '80's its sound. 80's pop owes everything 2 Prince! Even a couple Jacksons opted 4 his minneapolis sound
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http://artists.mp3s.com/a...dadli.html

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Reply #25 posted 07/28/02 12:57pm

Thumparello

True but the Jackson's sound carries on to this day. Rap samples, remakes etc. more so that Prince.
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Reply #26 posted 07/28/02 1:05pm

theC

JimmyNothing said:

Not to take anything away from Prince, but I get a little tired of hearing how he plays 27 different instruments.

In essence, he only plays 4 instruments: Piano, guitar, drums, bass.

Don't get me wrong, this is an AMAZING accomplishment, but it sure ain't 27 unless you're counting variations of the above 4 like acoustic guitar, electronic keyboards, electronic drums, etc. to enhance the legend (which IMO you should NOT count).

But let's be realistic in the count . . . and let's not call him a master of, say, the tamborine, triangle, kazoo, or finger-cymbals (that's how ridiculous the 27 number sounds).

eek


theC
i agree he's still VERY TALENTED but the 27 instrument stuff is ridiculous.using that formula i can play at least...2???
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Reply #27 posted 07/28/02 1:30pm

jnoel

Thumparello said:
"Prince is completely off the charts now, and is considered a has-been by common belief"
So was Carlos Santana,by the usual morons, before his come-back, my favourite singer, Neil Finn (have you heard his version of "Billie Jean"?) is "off the charts" too, don't care.

"MJ has been the darling of the music world since he was 9 years old. You can't and will never be able to take that away,he was there FIRST!!" WTF?

"I dig Prince but Micheal (...) set the path for what Prince did later" barf , when jackson will have a song like Dionne, i reconsider this...
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Reply #28 posted 07/28/02 1:34pm

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JimmyNothing said:

Not to take anything away from Prince, but I get a little tired of hearing how he plays 27 different instruments.

In essence, he only plays 4 instruments: Piano, guitar, drums, bass.

Don't get me wrong, this is an AMAZING accomplishment, but it sure ain't 27 unless you're counting variations of the above 4 like acoustic guitar, electronic keyboards, electronic drums, etc. to enhance the legend (which IMO you should NOT count).

But let's be realistic in the count . . . and let's not call him a master of, say, the tamborine, triangle, kazoo, or finger-cymbals (that's how ridiculous the 27 number sounds).

eek


Amen my brother.

I can play the tamborine, triangle, kazoo, finga-cymbals, woodblock, handclaps, and probably even more if I had better memories of grade school music class. So that said I can play at least 6 of Prince's 27 instruments and I'm not even a musician.
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Reply #29 posted 07/28/02 1:39pm

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The only thing Michael Jackson is the king of is kiddie porn.
Enough about MJ. He's a washed up POP star. He's not a musician, nor is he an artist.
Look at it this way. Prince can survive without a record company's big bucks. His musical skills come from him. Give him a guitar or piano and he can captivate an audience.
MJ, on the other hand, is mainly a video and hype artist. Though supposedly rich in his own right, he claims he needs millions from a record company to put out the lavish videos he's known for. He also claims to need the record company's millions for the advertising and hype. MJ isn't a musician. He manufactures songs. Anything special about him disappeared about 50 plastic surgeries ago. Credibility? MJ doesn't know the meaning of the word.
And Michael is finally learning that record sales aren't everything they're cracked up to be.
Luckily Prince learned that lesson long ago, and let go of the facade known as the music industry.
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