I just watched the Prince and Beyonce thing all the way through 4 the 1st time (I only caught the end when it actually aired). That was awful, did they not rehearse b4 it happened?????

Poor Prince, he musta felt like whuppin' her upside the head.
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Seemed pretty good to me, what precisely seemed unrehearsed about it?

metalorange said:

Beyonce.Period.

metalorange said:

ditto

luv4all7 said:

Did you not like it because you thought the performance was bad or because P performed with Beyonce?

I liked Prince just fine. It seemed like she was trying to steel his lime light, and jumpin' like a Nutt! I'm not a singer or nuttin' but she seemed off key.

I thought they performed very well together. I read that they rehearsed all afternoon. I thought it was pretty tight.

I dunno, watch it again. She was hogging the stage from him. Did he ever have any comments after the performance about her?

luv4all7 said:

I never read any comments from P about the specific performance, but he did publicly state that she didn't know scales and he had to teach them to her.

i like beyonce but that performance was just awful.

her dancing was so embarassing to watch it made my skin crawl. it was like some 8-year-old kid on a sugar high dancing to kids bop. she might be able to shake her ass real good but she definitely is not funky. and she melisma-d up purple rain so much she completely lost the actual melody of the thing.
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luv4all7 said:

If you don't like Beyonce, the way she sings or dances, then of course you're not going to like the performance. But to the level of her ability, she sang and danced fine. What are you watching it, some small video file streaming on the internet with squeaky sound? It's not always good to form judgements based on those.

As it happens, they didn't have time to rehearse all that much. I'm sure I heard that originally Janet Jackson was going to start the Grammies but they replaced her with Prince at the last minute. An afternoon of rehearsal is not really that long for the length of the performance and the intricacy of movement and different song snippets.

I like Beyonce, but no matter how you slice and dice it, I didn't like the performance, and I can't see how most Prince fans would.

I saw it on HQ.

luv4all7 said:

Yep, small streaming video with compressed squeaky audio. Hardly the best way to hear whether she was 'off key' or not. Stealing Prince's limelight? You mean sharing the stage with Prince. Hey, if anything it's Prince's fault, he planned the performance and Beyonce was just following his instructions...

No, it seriously looked like she was trying to steal the limelight. At one point they were kneeling on the ground or one of them was, and they were both singing into the same mic and she was trying to sing over him.

It was a disappointing collaboration, i expected their performance to run more smoothly than it did.
I still thought Prince was on fire that night though
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luv4all7 said:

Ermmm, that never happens. Probably because you're watching it on low-res video, you've mistaken it for Beyonce kneeling when she isn't - doesn't that prove that you can't criticise Beyonce's performance on the basis of poor video and audio? The only time Beyonce half-kneels is when Prince is doing the 'Ah ah, was all I heard' bit of Let's Go Crazy and she isn't singing then.

You're probably confusing some shot where they are sharing the mic during Purple Rain. And I can tell you she is not trying to sing over him at that point, she is merely struggling to sing in harmony with someone she isn't used to singing harmony with.

I'm not picking on you, but it is a feature of human behaviour that someone picks a standpoint just on the basis of instinct, then tries to go back and justify that decision as though it was based on logical observations. In other words, if you just don't like Beyonce singing with Prince, fine, but there's no need to justify that by criticising holes in her performance that simply aren't there.

I'm no big fan of Beyonce by any means, I thought the performance as a whole was glitzy and Las Vegasy (and I would rather see a raw gritty performance by Prince on his own any day of the week) but in the context of the show and as a re-introduction of Prince to a more youthful audience, the performance was great. And I think Beyonce has more natural charisma, love her or loathe her, than Tamar currently has, and that came through on this performance - she seemed genuinely happy to be sharing the stage with Prince (and she went onto win like 6 awards or something that night).

I dunno, for one, I don't care if Beyonce sings with Prince, that's fine. I just think she looked like an idiot doing it. Maybe cuzza the quality, I'll admit that. I think Beyonce is beautiful and I enjoy her music, just not that night.

I'm gonna go watch it again, and I'll tell ya exactly what parts I didn't like.

luv4all7 said:

I'm confused. What does Beyonce and Prince's Grammy performance have to do with AI?

babynoz said:

Just sayin' everyones loosin' their breakfast around here cuz Prince was on AI, but what about this!?!?!?

There isn't one person here that's gonna convince me that was good.

Beyonce was crouched over most off the performance in order to make their height difference less noticeable. She is about 5'6" or 5'7" and was wearing heels. Maybe that's why it appeared that she was on bended knee.








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Thank you PurpleCharm.....That is it!

LOOK she IS hogging the mic!!

luv4all7 said:

Hey, you started the thread to point out this was a bad performance (by Beyonce not Prince as it turns out!) well it would seem the imperative is with you to prove your point than for us to prove you wrong!

First it was the whole Beyonce appearance that was bad.
Then you said it was because she was jumping like a nut and was off-key.
Then you said it was because she was hogging the stage.
Then you said it was because she was trying to sing over him at one point.

Just sounds like the description of a typical live performance to me, Prince did just as much jumping and hogging and singing over as Beyonce, it's called sharing a performance.

metalorange said:

No-one is right or wrong. Some like it, some don't. And all the above reasons you stated are the reasons I didn't like it.

luv4all7 said:

Oh, okay I get it now.

I think it was so great because at that point I hadn't seen Prince for quite awhile and I didn't even know he was gonna be on. I was so darn thrilled to see him that I hardly noticed Beyonce. It was hard to be objective. Gotta watch it again.

luv4all7 said:

Even in that minute clip you can tell no one's kneeling, I don't know where you got that from.

She's got the mic while Prince is playing his guitar, as he comes back from playing the guitar to sing harmony on the verse, she realises he is too far from the mic and moves it nearer so he can be heard. At most that's a tiny mistake from not enough rehearsal and knowing which is Prince's part, she is after all singing lead on the song at that point. At worst it is hardly 'hogging' the mic, that would be if she didn't bother moving it nearer for him at all!

babynoz said:

Yeah KWYM about not seein him. I didn't know he was gonna be on either, and a friend of mine called and was like
Prince is on TV w/Beyonce
I'm like shut the f up
and there it was
but I only caught the end.

metalorange said:

Are you Beyonce? Your like seriously pissed that I don't like her performance. WTF?

luv4all7 said:

The Yonce is a SUCCESS! and you can't stand it. (that's from Mahogany in case you were wondering.) damn, how d'you spell success? Leave that girl alone. they were supposed to share the stage. shhhhhare it. I thought it was an okay performance for them both. Prince luvs him some Yonce. Yes he do. He most certainly do. If he had his way, he'd a just sat there and let her give him a lap dance. Like the one she gave Terrence Howard at the BET Awards.

luv4all7 said:

I'm not pissed whatsoever. Just trying to have a logical discussion as to why specifically you don't like Beyonce's performance. Via logical discussion we have gone from "Beyonce. Period" to a list of what you didn't like.

Now isn't that a more accurate and observed critique of a performance than just blurting out your instincts? Put it this way, if you read a review of a Prince album, say Sign O The Times, and the reviewer went: "Didn't like it. Why? Prince. Period." wouldn't you be up-in-arms that the reviewer didn't put more effort into revealing specifically what they thought the problem was and being able to justify it?

metalorange said:

Yes your right. I'm not a reviewer though, and seriously, I just thought Beyonce was retarded in that performance.