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Thread started 05/16/06 7:19am

potroastpony

Prince's unreleased track by Alien Means at the library of congress.

On A Madonna website some guy said that they would let you listen to By Alien Means if you ask. Does anyone at the org live near the library of congress? It would be cool if you could listen and write about here.


PAu-1-152-963 (COHM) Title: By alien means / written by Prince.
Description: 1 sound cassette.
Claimant: Controversy Music
Created: 1988

Registered: 12Oct88

Author on © Application: words & music: Prince Rogers Nelson a.k.a. Prince.
Special Codes: 3/M
Cross Reference: aPrince. SEE Prince Rogers Nelson

http://www.loc.gov/cgi-bi...t/locis.pl


Here is a link to the Library of Congress search engine I used to find By Alien Means.
http://www.copyright.gov/.../cohm.html


Here are some other Prince songs listed that I have never heard of.

ITEM 63. PA-458-363: Afternoon siesta / Brown, aPrince. CLNA: Eebee Songs, Ltd.

ITEM 85. PA-502-610: On the way up / words and music by aPrince, aElisa Fiorillo, aLevi Seacer , Jr., and aDavid Z. [Claimant:] Controversy Music, David Z Music, Gribbles Music, Michael Anthony Music, Chrysalis Music

ITEM 113. PA-594-195: Tip o' my tongue. CLNA: NPG Publishing

ITEM 120. PA-617-843: Prince of Darkness / w & m Antonio Hardy. CLNA: Saja Music Company, Troutman's Music Company, Controversy Music & AZ Music

ITEM 122. PA-627-971: Get yourself together : pts. 1 & 2. CLNA: MCA Music, Ltd., & Controversy Music

ITEM 242. PAu-1-688-038: Paris 17984302 / w & m Prince Rogers Nelson (aPrince) Controversy Music

ITEM 260. PAu-1-805-924: Down: NPG Publishing, RG Jules Publishing, Moshi-Oshi Music,
Controversy Music
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Reply #1 posted 05/16/06 8:44am

NouveauDance

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Here's what the Vault have to say about the track:

Recorded sometime in 1988 and filed for copyright registration at the Library of Congress on October 12th 1988. The track was submitted to Madonna for possible inclusion on Like A Prayer, but was turned down.

"By Alien Means" is an intriguing and highly ambitious song, featuring a slightly bombastic Lovesexy-era production in parts. The song alternates between two disparate themes, one segment focusing on a slow, wistful melody and the other being more of a monotonous vamp. The latter segment contains a wild blend of synth stabs, guitar and organ interjections, percussion, crowd noise, and eccentricl vocals that are spoken, shouted and sung. Like some other Lovesexy-era songs, such as Dance On, Positivity and Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic, the song has a serious message rooted in reality, with Prince asking young people not to commi suicide, pleading, "Don't go out by alien means".


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Reply #2 posted 05/16/06 10:08am

calldapplwonde
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hmmm

Might be worth a travel.
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Reply #3 posted 05/16/06 10:24am

Justin1972UK

potroastpony said:

ITEM 120. PA-617-843: Prince of Darkness / w & m Antonio Hardy. CLNA: Saja Music Company, Troutman's Music Company, Controversy Music & AZ Music


That's Big Daddy Kane.
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Reply #4 posted 05/16/06 1:26pm

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Afternoon siesta - Song by Errol Brown - not Prince

On the way up - Prince song, recorded and released by Elisa Fiorillo - on her Prince dominated album release, 'I Am'.

Tip o' my tongue - Prince co-penned song recorded and released by El DeBarge on his album, 'In The Storm'.

Prince of Darkness - a Prince credit for reference or sample

Get yourself together pts. 1 & 2 - recording by the Young Disciples. Possibly a Prince sample included resulting in the credit - the interesting thing is the reference to Femi as an author of the work (or is that not Femi Jiya?).

Paris 17984302 - Prince song, recorded and released by Tevin Campbell, on his album 'I'm Ready' (together with other prince compositions).

Down - written with Tevin Campbell in mind but never released by him
ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
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Reply #5 posted 05/16/06 1:29pm

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calldapplwondery83 said:

hmmm

Might be worth a travel.

It would be best to check out the rules of the library first. Major libraries such as the British Library have well-enforced access rules to ensure the use of the resource is properly managed. At the British Library, for example, you have to demonstrate / justify your research credentials and that the resource is not available in other libraries.

Certainly, it has been reported that By Alien means has been accessed in this way, with descriptions produced of its music and lyrics. I'm not sure whether the Uptown description was obtained in this way or via another route.
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ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
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Reply #6 posted 05/16/06 6:31pm

sacredwarrior

ehehe eye
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
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Reply #7 posted 05/16/06 8:42pm

paisleypark4

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i cannot find "Tip O My Tounge" anywhere, daym
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Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #8 posted 05/16/06 9:04pm

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I just downloaded Tip O My Tongue. Song is a lame jam.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #9 posted 05/16/06 9:07pm

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DeBarge acts like MJ at the end of that song..lol
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #10 posted 05/16/06 11:03pm

plymouthavenue
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You cannot listen to PAu 's at the Library of Congress. You can only listen to PA 's. (PAu means it's unpublished.) It looks like By Alien Means is PAu, so the guy on Madonna's site must not have gotten it from the Library of Congress.
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Reply #11 posted 05/16/06 11:47pm

origmnd

Can someone look up the tracks on Musicology and 3121 to see WHEN they were published and copyrighted ?
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Reply #12 posted 05/17/06 6:03am

DavidEye

NouveauDance said:

Here's what the Vault have to say about the track:

Recorded sometime in 1988 and filed for copyright registration at the Library of Congress on October 12th 1988. The track was submitted to Madonna for possible inclusion on Like A Prayer, but was turned down.

"By Alien Means" is an intriguing and highly ambitious song, featuring a slightly bombastic Lovesexy-era production in parts. The song alternates between two disparate themes, one segment focusing on a slow, wistful melody and the other being more of a monotonous vamp. The latter segment contains a wild blend of synth stabs, guitar and organ interjections, percussion, crowd noise, and eccentricl vocals that are spoken, shouted and sung. Like some other Lovesexy-era songs, such as Dance On, Positivity and Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic, the song has a serious message rooted in reality, with Prince asking young people not to commi suicide, pleading, "Don't go out by alien means".


smile



sounds interesting! I'd really like to hear this tune.
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Reply #13 posted 05/17/06 6:05am

DavidEye

2freaky4church1 said:

I just downloaded Tip O My Tongue. Song is a lame jam.


It's a mediocre song,nothing special.Interestingly,El has another song on that same album that actually sounds even more like a Prince song.It's called "My Heart Belongs To You" and was the first single.
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Reply #14 posted 05/17/06 6:08am

DavidEye

2freaky4church1 said:

I just downloaded Tip O My Tongue. Song is a lame jam.


It's a mediocre song,nothing special.Interestingly,El has another,better song on that same album that sounds even more like a Prince song.It's called "My Heart Belongs To You" and was the first single.
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Reply #15 posted 05/17/06 4:08pm

potroastpony

I found this. I posted here before long time ago.



1988 BY ALIEN MEANS Confirmed as written by Prince Rogers Nelson),
published by Controversy Music. Supposedly sent to Madonna after
Blonde Ambition Tour. May or may not have been recorded by Madonna.
Prince demo cassette on file Library Of Congress PAU-1-152-963. Bruce
Baron recently listened to this track at the Washington DC Library Of
Congress, and he writes:


This is actually an unreleased Prince (The Artist) tune supposedly sent to Madonna for recording consideration. I
do not recall the exact source of this rumour, but it has been around
for years, and was supposedly inspired by the 1990 Blonde Ambition
Tour. It has never been established that Madonna actually recorded it
with Prince or on her own. The Prince collectors usually have lots of
bootleg unreleased tracks, but this one had never surfaced in the
collectors market. Many are the demos he had sent to other female
vocalists which he did quite often. Therefore I decided to request a
listen at the copyright office to check it out.
If this demo had been
sent to me for consideration, it would be like the same feeling as
receiving a totally "WRONG" piece of clothing as a birthday gift from
a relative. "Thanks, it's - neat". The song appears to be about asking
young people not to commit suicide: "Explore the interplanetary space
between your mind. Don't go out by alien means". The instrumentation
is a wild blend of guitars and percussion.
Not much of a melody, but
Prince in full form. His vocals are just as insane with multi-layered
falsettos and voices.
The date of creation on the registration is
actually 1988, so this could not have been inspired by the 1990 BAT.
It could be possible that it originates circa the Prince/Madonna duet
"Love Song" and was then sent to her later? How much truth there is to
this story we may never know, but this song did not make me think of
Madonna when I heard it.


1988 UNCONFIRMED TITLE (S) Portions of 2-3 other collaborations
rumored to be unfinished with Prince from "Love Song" sessions. There
may also be others that were from the abandoned "From Dusk To Dawn"
Prince Soundtrack (unconfirmed)

[Edited 5/17/06 16:08pm]
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Reply #16 posted 05/17/06 6:38pm

paisleypark4

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potroastpony said:

I found this. I posted here before long time ago.



1988 BY ALIEN MEANS Confirmed as written by Prince Rogers Nelson),
published by Controversy Music. Supposedly sent to Madonna after
Blonde Ambition Tour. May or may not have been recorded by Madonna.
Prince demo cassette on file Library Of Congress PAU-1-152-963. Bruce
Baron recently listened to this track at the Washington DC Library Of
Congress, and he writes:


This is actually an unreleased Prince (The Artist) tune supposedly sent to Madonna for recording consideration. I
do not recall the exact source of this rumour, but it has been around
for years, and was supposedly inspired by the 1990 Blonde Ambition
Tour. It has never been established that Madonna actually recorded it
with Prince or on her own. The Prince collectors usually have lots of
bootleg unreleased tracks, but this one had never surfaced in the
collectors market. Many are the demos he had sent to other female
vocalists which he did quite often. Therefore I decided to request a
listen at the copyright office to check it out.
If this demo had been
sent to me for consideration, it would be like the same feeling as
receiving a totally "WRONG" piece of clothing as a birthday gift from
a relative. "Thanks, it's - neat". The song appears to be about asking
young people not to commit suicide: "Explore the interplanetary space
between your mind. Don't go out by alien means". The instrumentation
is a wild blend of guitars and percussion.
Not much of a melody, but
Prince in full form. His vocals are just as insane with multi-layered
falsettos and voices.
The date of creation on the registration is
actually 1988, so this could not have been inspired by the 1990 BAT.
It could be possible that it originates circa the Prince/Madonna duet
"Love Song" and was then sent to her later? How much truth there is to
this story we may never know, but this song did not make me think of
Madonna when I heard it.


1988 UNCONFIRMED TITLE (S) Portions of 2-3 other collaborations
rumored to be unfinished with Prince from "Love Song" sessions. There
may also be others that were from the abandoned "From Dusk To Dawn"
Prince Soundtrack (unconfirmed)

[Edited 5/17/06 16:08pm]


drool
love

Prince.....please post this up for $100 and I garuntee ull make a million in one night!
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Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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