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Thread started 07/23/02 6:33pm

IceNine

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If Prince was an atheist would you still dig his music?

Would you devout christians, muslims, etc. still listen to Prince if you found out that he was actually an atheist? Nothing would change about his music at all, other than that he would not talk about god any longer... and he would also never address the topic in his songs. The only thing is that you would KNOW that he was an atheist...

Would you still dig his music?

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[This message was edited Tue Jul 23 19:43:41 PDT 2002 by IceNine]
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Reply #1 posted 07/23/02 6:36pm

2the9s

IceNine said:

Nothing would change about his music at all...


Except that the opposite of NATO would be NOTHING.
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Reply #2 posted 07/23/02 6:37pm

AzureStar

IceNine said:

Would you devout christians, muslims, etc. still listen to Prince if you found out that he was actually an atheist? Nothing would change about his music at all, other than that he would not talk about god any longer... and he would also never address the topic in his songs. The only thing is that you would KNOW that he was an atheist...

Would you still dig his music?


Great post, Ice!

I would...I really don't care what he practices or follows...
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Reply #3 posted 07/23/02 6:51pm

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From an orgnote that I received from Housequake2K2:

I wanted to post on the thread but my browser won't let me. I would still listen to Prince if he were an atheist. I've been a JW for 17 years and listened to his music most of the time, including his raunchy stuff...so him being an atheist wouldn't bother me. Otherwise it would hurt me in some strange way to send this communicae to you. Could you post that I would listen to his music till I get my browser working right? Thanx
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Reply #4 posted 07/23/02 6:55pm

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My music collection is quite extensive. There may very well be some artist who are atheist. I wouldn't know if it weren't brought out in their music. I would guess that 99.9% of my music collection is by artist who are not Jehovah's Witnesses, and I am a dedicated Witness for Jehovah and I must admit that I still love to hear Randy Rhodes guitar work on "Blizzard of Oz" and we all know what the song "Mr. Crowley" is about. Some of us listen to music for just that 'the music'. Now if an artist has lyrics of a debauch nature, why surely a christian would not want to feed his or her mind on those thoughts. But I for one will always demand that my favorite music must be FUNKY and LOUD!
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Reply #5 posted 07/23/02 7:02pm

AzureStar

jw1914 said:

I would guess that 99.9% of my music collection is by artist who are not Jehovah's Witnesses, and I am a dedicated Witness for Jehovah and I must admit that I still love to hear Randy Rhodes guitar work on "Blizzard of Oz" and we all know what the song "Mr. Crowley" is about.


Randy Rhodes rocked! I play my "Tribute" album quite frequently. smile
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Reply #6 posted 07/23/02 7:05pm

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Well it wouldnt affect his music so I would still listen to him. JW didnt really affect his music that much
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Reply #7 posted 07/23/02 7:06pm

Moonbeam

I would still definitely listen to Prince. Personally, many of my favorite songs of his are very spiritual in nature, so I would be missing out on all of their glory, but he is a multi-dimensional artist and has moved me on more than simply the spiritual plane.
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Reply #8 posted 07/23/02 7:09pm

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Yeah... what if Prince would release...

Gawd by Prince and the Evolutions

featuring...

Camus Waiting
Two Songs (at least...)
Gawd! (instrumental)
The Answer on U
Still won't wait all time
Elements and powers
The Crossed
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Reply #9 posted 07/23/02 9:27pm

soulsplash

It'd be a sad thing if we based our spirituality on Prince's journey, wouldn't it? Though, I'm aware that people are greatly influenced and affected by it. We should be careful not to look to man for our answers.
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Reply #10 posted 07/23/02 9:30pm

wellbeyond

I'm still surprised anyone gives a shit either way, actually...I don't know what Stevie Wonder practiced or believed in, although I'm sure he voiced it numerous times...same with Sly...same with Kajagoogoo..heh...music is music...it's how it effects me that I find important, now how the person who made it practices his beliefs or even if he has any...
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Reply #11 posted 07/23/02 10:52pm

bonojr

The music wouldn't be the same; yes there'd be some hits, but not the longevity and stamina he's shown. He'd lack the vision and soul in his music. He knows there's something beyond the painful human condition in this world. He's focused on a higher place, an ascension beyond his music bounded up in faith, hope, and love knowing God.

Atheists have no such hope from my experience.
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Reply #12 posted 07/23/02 10:59pm

apollonia7

yes.

although i think the themes of his music would be drastically different...
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Reply #13 posted 07/23/02 11:01pm

bluelight

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Yes, of course! I'm not religious at all.
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Reply #14 posted 07/23/02 11:02pm

aspera773

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I'm still surprised anyone gives a shit either way...music is music...it's how it effects me...

Yep.
Art is art. George Carlin doesn't believe in God ... still respect his skill to tell it like it is through comedy. PEACE
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Reply #15 posted 07/23/02 11:08pm

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IceNine said:

Would you devout christians, muslims, etc. still listen to Prince if you found out that he was actually an atheist? Nothing would change about his music at all, other than that he would not talk about god any longer... and he would also never address the topic in his songs. The only thing is that you would KNOW that he was an atheist...

Would you still dig his music?

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[This message was edited Tue Jul 23 19:43:41 PDT 2002 by IceNine]



damn straight i would.

I'd still listen to his music if he said he was gonna get some fake titties and start cross dressing.
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Reply #16 posted 07/23/02 11:09pm

aspera773

Christopher said:

damn straight i would.
I'd still listen to his music if he said he was gonna get some fake titties and start cross dressing.

Oh, my. lol
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Reply #17 posted 07/24/02 12:55am

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I'm trying to understand the Q: if P suddenly became an athiest? Or if he'd always been one?

If he'd always been one, his catalogue wouldn't be what it is (obviously). He wouldn't be inspired by the same things, the sound would be different (I imagine). Would he have been open about his beliefs (or lack of)??

star

If he suddenly became one, I'd think he was nuts first of all. Would I still listen? Don't know - people who have no belief in God freak me out (yes, some of you freak me out - LOL!).

Maybe it shouldn't make a difference but when I KNOW someone is an athiest, I don't wanna fuck with them. This can be a classmate, a person at work - whoever. I just think it's creepy.

It's like finding out someone is a psychic - I'd steer SO clear of them. We're not meant to know everything that's gonna happen to us & people who dabble w/ that just unnerve me. It's a lack of faith...
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Reply #18 posted 07/24/02 1:10am

Vagina

It depends on the music. But I would try to get him to BELIEVE. Since I am Religious.
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Reply #19 posted 07/24/02 1:16am

EYESEEINSIDEU

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CalhounSq said:

I'm trying to understand the Q: if P suddenly became an athiest? Or if he'd always been one?

If he'd always been one, his catalogue wouldn't be what it is (obviously). He wouldn't be inspired by the same things, the sound would be different (I imagine). Would he have been open about his beliefs (or lack of)??

star

If he suddenly became one, I'd think he was nuts first of all. Would I still listen? Don't know - people who have no belief in God freak me out (yes, some of you freak me out - LOL!).

Maybe it shouldn't make a difference but when I KNOW someone is an athiest, I don't wanna fuck with them. This can be a classmate, a person at work - whoever. I just think it's creepy.

It's like finding out someone is a psychic - I'd steer SO clear of them. We're not meant to know everything that's gonna happen to us & people who dabble w/ that just unnerve me. It's a lack of faith...




I like Prince's music because it has always been based on the things such as : God, love, sex...all the good stuff that he liked to talk about in his lyrics. I dont really know if I would still listen to his music or if I would have ever started listening to his music if he didnt include God in those that he had made.


I never imagined seeing him on the other side of the mirror...that would be to strange of a flip for me to deal with. I like Prince, how he is now and has been.

God is very much a part of my life and my faith draws me near and close to that which makes me love Him more. I love listening to music that makes me think positive things about God and life and happy people...about love. I never knew I could get that from listening to Prince's music, but I did and I love that! I dont dig atheism, I cant invision a life without God. God is heart exclaim

Thanks for listening.

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Reply #20 posted 07/24/02 11:52am

Lilith

It would b the same 4 me...Usually i listen 2 the music of an artist, not what he/she is believing. 4 example i dont stand who become satanist only becuz Marilyn Manson is...Its absurd!
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Reply #21 posted 07/24/02 12:06pm

Universaluv

Nothing would change about his music? For me, one of the defining characteristics of his music has been his ability to often explore issues of spirtuality and sexuality all at once. Take away the spiritualiy it's not really Prince anymore.

That said, the religious beliefs of most artists I listen to doesn't concern me, so prince as an atheist probably wouldn't either. But it would be very different.
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Reply #22 posted 07/24/02 12:16pm

IceNine

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Universaluv said:

Nothing would change about his music? For me, one of the defining characteristics of his music has been his ability to often explore issues of spirtuality and sexuality all at once. Take away the spiritualiy it's not really Prince anymore.

That said, the religious beliefs of most artists I listen to doesn't concern me, so prince as an atheist probably wouldn't either. But it would be very different.



What I meant was the MUSIC, not the lyrics to the songs... he would still play the funk, rock and R&B but he wouldn't talk about god at all and would not play the old religious songs again.

He would play all of the songs that did not pertain to god and would never write another religious song.
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Reply #23 posted 07/24/02 12:21pm

Universaluv

IceNine said:

What I meant was the MUSIC, not the lyrics to the songs... he would still play the funk, rock and R&B but he wouldn't talk about god at all and would not play the old religious songs again.

He would play all of the songs that did not pertain to god and would never write another religious song.


Yeah I understand, but I don't usually separate the lyrics from the music so cleanly. Stupid a*s lyrics have ruined many a great beat for me. So such a shift lyrically would make a difference to me. Doesn't mean it wouldn't necessarily be worth listening to, but it would be different.

And yes, I know that to some extent he's done the inverse of what you are proposing with his music recently. It's different, but IMO still worth listening too.

Of course WTF do I know, I could be wrong...

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Reply #24 posted 07/24/02 12:39pm

JDODSON

I would still listen.


Peace,

JD
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Reply #25 posted 07/24/02 12:43pm

dumbass

I don't know if I would still listen. considering that his explanation of Let's Go Crazy on the Chris Rock interview was that the songs conotation was to not let the devil break you down, if he was an atheist that would mean that the song was only about a malfunctioning elevator...and that's just too weird.
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Reply #26 posted 07/24/02 12:46pm

dumbass

not to mention the ladder. maybe carpenters would be able to relate to it if it was meant to be taken literally, without it's spiritual or religious connotations, but some nitwit wondering around looking for his ladder that he misplaced would be a lame as song.
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Reply #27 posted 07/24/02 12:48pm

wellbeyond

LoL@dumbass...

...or should I say with dumbass...
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Reply #28 posted 07/24/02 12:55pm

IceNine

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dumbass said:

not to mention the ladder. maybe carpenters would be able to relate to it if it was meant to be taken literally, without it's spiritual or religious connotations, but some nitwit wondering around looking for his ladder that he misplaced would be a lame as song.


While what you said is quite humorous, I must mention that he would not play those songs any longer due to his new-found disbelief...

:LOL:

He could still break out TONS of songs... just not the religious ones...
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Reply #29 posted 07/24/02 1:04pm

wellbeyond

Here's a thought: If Prince was an athiest...and stopped performing his spiritual and God-themed songs...would it bother you as much as the thought of him no longer performing his sex-and-profanity themed songs??
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