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Thread started 05/05/06 3:16pm

PunchDrunk

Why was/is 'Come' considered such a bad album?

All the critics reviews you'll read on this album will have it down as one of Prince's low points in his career, and simply a contract-filler. I've heard reviews describe Prince as sounding 'bored' and 'somewhere else' on the album - as if the thing is Prince by numbers.

I couldn't disagree any more. Save for the stupidly stupid 'Orgasm' and 'Solo', which simultaneously ruin any chance of me playing the album in front of anyone else, the album is steller and has some of my favourite ever P moments.

Come - Space - Pheromone is one of the best 1-2-3's Prince has recorded, in my opinion. I love every second of each of those songs. Loose and Race are also really cool tracks, and Papa is something original, thought-provoking, and yet catchy. Letitgo is great, too, and I consider Dark one of the best 90's ballads the guy did.

Anyone else think that, as far as 90's output go - save for a couple of self-indulgent moments - 'Come' is near-perfect?
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Reply #1 posted 05/05/06 3:30pm

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PunchDrunk said:

All the critics reviews you'll read on this album will have it down as one of Prince's low points in his career, and simply a contract-filler. I've heard reviews describe Prince as sounding 'bored' and 'somewhere else' on the album - as if the thing is Prince by numbers.

I couldn't disagree any more. Save for the stupidly stupid 'Orgasm' and 'Solo', which simultaneously ruin any chance of me playing the album in front of anyone else, the album is steller and has some of my favourite ever P moments.

Come - Space - Pheromone is one of the best 1-2-3's Prince has recorded, in my opinion. I love every second of each of those songs. Loose and Race are also really cool tracks, and Papa is something original, thought-provoking, and yet catchy. Letitgo is great, too, and I consider Dark one of the best 90's ballads the guy did.

Anyone else think that, as far as 90's output go - save for a couple of self-indulgent moments - 'Come' is near-perfect?




I love this album and is one of the three good albums Prince put out in the 90s. The Gold Experience and The Exodus being the other two. The only lame songs are solo (even though the lyrics are good), Space and Race.
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Reply #2 posted 05/05/06 3:34pm

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Solo is one of the greatest things he's ever committed to tape. and it's prolly the last time he dug deep down to deliver a performance like that for a record.
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Reply #3 posted 05/05/06 3:47pm

eccotides

I've no clue, it's his best album from the '90s, in my opinion. Every song is a gem, save for Orgasm - But it functions as more of an outro anyway.

10/10, and my 3rd favorite Prince record.
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Reply #4 posted 05/05/06 4:50pm

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When this music hits you u know what to do ... turn it up to 98db & shake ure funkyself loose.. biggrin
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Reply #5 posted 05/05/06 5:06pm

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Milty said:

Solo is one of the greatest things he's ever committed to tape. and it's prolly the last time he dug deep down to deliver a performance like that for a record.

I don't understand the hate for "Solo" either. It's one of the most original and heartfelt things he's ever done.
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Reply #6 posted 05/05/06 5:06pm

GangstaFam

Oh and Come rules! headbang
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Reply #7 posted 05/05/06 5:15pm

HamsterHuey

GangstaFam said:

Oh and Come rules! headbang


But the rock version demo is better than the album version. Period.

Esp the live version with the What's My Name intro...

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Reply #8 posted 05/05/06 5:18pm

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But the rock version demo is better than the album version. Period.

Esp the live version with the What's My Name intro...

jerkoff

I love this song in any form.
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Reply #9 posted 05/05/06 5:31pm

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PunchDrunk said:

All the critics reviews you'll read on this album will have it down as one of Prince's low points in his career, and simply a contract-filler. I've heard reviews describe Prince as sounding 'bored' and 'somewhere else' on the album - as if the thing is Prince by numbers.

I couldn't disagree any more. Save for the stupidly stupid 'Orgasm' and 'Solo', which simultaneously ruin any chance of me playing the album in front of anyone else, the album is steller and has some of my favourite ever P moments.

Come - Space - Pheromone is one of the best 1-2-3's Prince has recorded, in my opinion. I love every second of each of those songs. Loose and Race are also really cool tracks, and Papa is something original, thought-provoking, and yet catchy. Letitgo is great, too, and I consider Dark one of the best 90's ballads the guy did.

Anyone else think that, as far as 90's output go - save for a couple of self-indulgent moments - 'Come' is near-perfect?


Come is one of the few Prince albums I love from beginning to end! The critics were probably still yanking their wanks to the 80s. I'm glad I didn't listen to their Bullshit...I would have missed out on some masterful songwriting and sound production from The Artist during the swingin' 90s!!!

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Reply #10 posted 05/05/06 5:31pm

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PunchDrunk said:


Come - Space - Pheromone is one of the best 1-2-3's Prince has recorded, in my opinion. I love every second of each of those songs.


Yep, I've always thought this too! I usually don't even listen to the rest after these three.
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Reply #11 posted 05/05/06 6:08pm

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Reply #12 posted 05/05/06 7:55pm

lilgish

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I honestly don't get it. I like the album cover.
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Reply #13 posted 05/05/06 8:26pm

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PunchDrunk said:

'Come' is near-perfect?

Yes, "Come" is a near perfect album. Solid tracks all the way through with some of those tracks being outstanding. That adds up to a great album.

"Space" and "Loose" are two of the best things Prince has ever done. That simple bass line from "Space" is so groovy and the absolute lunacy that is "Loose" is something Prince rarely attempts.

As far as Prince albums go, "Come" is way at the top. It never feels like a collection of songs, it always just feels complete to me. The whole thing. Can't really explain it, just have to say that "Come" is a great album. Top five Prince album, easily.
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Reply #14 posted 05/05/06 8:26pm

Imago

Good one.


The title Track "Come" is a long ass song, overproduced, and sounding less upbeat than I think the subject matter wanted it to be. For some reason, I still like the album.
All the songs on "COME" are really good "filler" songs. The album lacks the zeal and purpose of "The Gold Experience", and the scope and impact of prince, as well as the hit-making potential of Diamonds and Pearls. But, it's much less "uneaven" than those albums as well. shrug

To me, it's like the "Around the World In a Day" of the New Power Generation era. A good album, but in the shadow of the ones that came before it, and hinting at the ones that came after--I may get shot for this, but I think Emancipation was a vastly better album than COME.

The really underrated album of that era in my opinion is not COME, but Chaos and Disorder.

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Reply #15 posted 05/05/06 10:47pm

Novabreaker

They disliked it automatically, because it was a "side-project" album. Also, electronic pop music wasn't at its critical zenith during those days, this was when "alternative rock" was really taking over. On the other hand, they did have a point in dismissing songs as "space" as perfunctory, because from that exact moment's perspective Prince really hadn't done such "plain" songs in his career before. Prince's output was always far more offbeat than that up to the 90s, we're just used to that kind of stuff now.
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Reply #16 posted 05/05/06 11:14pm

origmnd

fucken great. especially the Ulysees version.

Got lost in the realm when critics said it was a release to fulfill contractual obligations etc..

1992-1996 had great stuff.
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Reply #17 posted 05/06/06 1:57am

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Right off the bat it was a 'contractual obligatory' album, released as 'Prince', after he'd started using the stage-name ' prince ' - So the image was that he'd chucked together a bunch of masturbatory left-overs to fulfill one more record of his contract.

It's kind of an unsatisfying album, and the jigging around it received didn't help - taking off songs like Interactive and Endorphinmachine.

Plus Letitgo, the lead single, is one of the most depressingly turgid songs he's ever released IMO.

The released version of the album is very downbeat, almost to a fault by the end of the LP - which is a shame because there's a lot of great upbeat music on there, it just doesn't feel like it by the end of Orgasm. confused

It does have Papa though, which is one of the best 90s tracks IMO.
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Reply #18 posted 05/06/06 7:48am

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I think "Come" is a great album. As far as critics reviews, I never pay attention to them anyway because they are human beings with their own tastes just like everyone else. Hell, look at all the shitty albums by new artists and critics praise them. lol
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Reply #19 posted 05/06/06 7:49am

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A lot of people said it left a bad taiste in their mnouth....personaly i like it ... even if some of it is hard to swallow.
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Reply #20 posted 05/06/06 12:52pm

Shone314

I completely agree about the first three tracks being the strongest and "Letitgo" is an awesome track. I wouldn't say this album is completely without value, but it does seem a little unfocused and put together in a rush just to appease Warners. It's a lot better than NewPowerSoul, and that supposedly had a consistent feel and theme.
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Reply #21 posted 05/06/06 1:15pm

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Come, Race, Papa and Letitigo are the hotness for me.

The rest of the trax do seem like Prince is just kinda bored....
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Reply #22 posted 05/06/06 2:59pm

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potroastpony said:

PunchDrunk said:

All the critics reviews you'll read on this album will have it down as one of Prince's low points in his career, and simply a contract-filler. I've heard reviews describe Prince as sounding 'bored' and 'somewhere else' on the album - as if the thing is Prince by numbers.

I couldn't disagree any more. Save for the stupidly stupid 'Orgasm' and 'Solo', which simultaneously ruin any chance of me playing the album in front of anyone else, the album is steller and has some of my favourite ever P moments.

Come - Space - Pheromone is one of the best 1-2-3's Prince has recorded, in my opinion. I love every second of each of those songs. Loose and Race are also really cool tracks, and Papa is something original, thought-provoking, and yet catchy. Letitgo is great, too, and I consider Dark one of the best 90's ballads the guy did.

Anyone else think that, as far as 90's output go - save for a couple of self-indulgent moments - 'Come' is near-perfect?




I love this album and is one of the three good albums Prince put out in the 90s. The Gold Experience and The Exodus being the other two. The only lame songs are solo (even though the lyrics are good), Space and Race.
[Edited 5/5/06 15:55pm]


Space is lame?! Back of the class for you!!!!
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Reply #23 posted 05/06/06 3:03pm

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It's a pretty good album...critics just bashed it at the time because Prince was taking on the WB lable... I really belive that..it was like uncool to like him during this time. confused
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Reply #24 posted 05/06/06 3:05pm

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I can only speak for myself here, but the situation of its release played a major role to dislike it. The Symbol album was excellent imo, it is still one of my faves from Prince. Then, in '93, we got almost no new music. After that, in '94, it was already rumoured that Prince had something new ready called "The Gold Experience", but instead we got that... thing. biggrin Maybe the album itself isn't that bad, but I will probably never really like it simply because it was surrounded by much, much stronger records and had "contract filler" written all over it. I wasn't really disappointed, I just saw it as a mark on Prince's "WB still to go" list right from the start.
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Reply #25 posted 05/06/06 3:05pm

WildheartXXX

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Krystal666 said:

It's a pretty good album...critics just bashed it at the time because Prince was taking on the WB lable... I really belive that..it was like uncool to like him during this time. confused
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Agree totally. You can also look to the complete ignorance of The Gold Experience when critics discuss his best albums.
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Reply #26 posted 05/06/06 3:09pm

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WildheartXXX said:

Krystal666 said:

It's a pretty good album...critics just bashed it at the time because Prince was taking on the WB lable... I really belive that..it was like uncool to like him during this time. confused
[Edited 5/6/06 15:03pm]


Agree totally. You can also look to the complete ignorance of The Gold Experience when critics discuss his best albums.


Yeah I don't want to sound like a conspircy theorist but yes I belive the record lables and the press ARE connected...it's all money to them. Fuck with their money and they will rip u apart.
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Reply #27 posted 05/06/06 3:15pm

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GangstaFam said:

HamsterHuey said:

But the rock version demo is better than the album version. Period.

Esp the live version with the What's My Name intro...

jerkoff

I love this song in any form.



what rock version?
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Reply #28 posted 05/06/06 3:17pm

LittleSmedley

I'm sorry to be negative but I think it's poor, I lost a lot of faith after this album...
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Reply #29 posted 05/06/06 3:24pm

Milty

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actually, i believe Come to be a great Prince album. out of all the 90s output i believe that it had a lot of the old Prince style ie from the 80s. it may have been thelast of that style.
it was cryptic, it was sexy, it rock and it had what was in store for us in the 90s.

i also believe that he was geniunly mad whenhe did that record. of course, we'll never know if he ever actually was. i wish he would elaborate on stuff like that.

i love it.
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