Out of all of the threads on this forum, THIS ONE I think, if P truly does read these threads, this is the one that I think P would dig the most.

blackguitaristz said:

i'm just fooling around. i've been a musician for 20 years. bit sensitive aren't we.

The other musicians have eloquently covered most of my feeling. The only other thing is that it sometimes enables one to be able to tell when Prince is cutting a corner. Sometimes his stuff gets a little sloppy.

ThreadBare said:

I don't think he gets sloppy (not in the playing at least), but I think he sometimes doesn't prepare the song enough before recording it.

It does not take a musician to see that Prince has been on a decline since the release of TRC as far as music goes, and that he is running out of studio effects.

I play a new instrument, and it is called the computer keyboard. I have mapped out all the tones each key makes when pressed.

So there is my muscian badge so I can be cool know it all also.

He has even come to the point where he is back to using guitar loops from his pedals.

His rhythm technique on guitar has become very predictable.

Prince needs for Dangelo or someone to call him out again.

Musically he is on cruise control.

Based on his production, it sounds like he is losing some hearing.

He is not critical of himself anymore, and takes himself too seriously these days.

Just look at Fury. That track should have been cut like stuff from The Undertaker, same with the video.

Prince is laying the ground for what not to do, the same way his idols did for him.


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workingupahiyellasweat said:

Oooh, I like that sentence. Even if I don't agree with it, I like it.

NDRU said:

Yeah, but his harmonies have been getting really sloppy. "3121" the track features some off singing, on occasion. The strings on "The Dance" -- really amateurish sounding. He should've had Claire Fischer hook that one up, too. There have been similar deals on previous releases -- the kind of deals that make me think he's slacking off.

workingupahiyellasweat said:

Kill the sarcasm, dude. Don't turn one of the best threads in a long while to a "what Prince is doing' wrong" diatribe. Start your own thread. It's ironic how the musicians up here aren't the "know-it-alls" who are pointing out P's faults...

And if you are a musician, please keep the "I'm a musician myself so I know how to play..." jive to yourself. This has been a pretty positive thread, for the most part - let's keep it that way

it goes on and on...But I will say..when I hear him being less original..or following trends that lesser musicians use (the neptunes feel on black sweat...) (The james brown samples triggered from keyboards live in the early 90's along with the tired shitty raps...) It makes me respect him less as a musician with a unique voice.Thus making it hard for me to dig where he's at...even though i know in my heart he's THE MAN..(at times)

I totally Agree, Seeing him live makes me know why I became a big Prince fan, but
some of the albums outside of his best period have made me wonder sometimes.

padawan said:

Without reading any of the answers and being a musician myself I'll answer that most musicians are prima donna wanna bees who dislike anyone with more success than them in general. That said, most of what they say can be dismissed. And no I don't really hear him much different, good music, which is music that moves me is good music. Some of the simplest music is the best and some of the most complicated is the least moving. Prince is a master at pop music and all of the varieties within it. I consider him on a level of his own, singular and historic in his talent.

I should add that at his best, these days, when he is really in the zone, he makes me feel like that 13 year old kid who first heard controversy or the later stuff that made me decide to be a musician. I forget all about being a musician and regress to being a little kid in awe and I think that feeling was and is the most important to my being a musician. When I do Little Red Corvette in public, I can see that just as I have carried this brilliant song with me all these years, what it conveyed to me can also be conveyed to strangers. I look up from my piano and I see people either looking at me with their mouths open or applauding loudly, and that is the magic of Prince.

mozfonky said:

It's not necessary to put down and generalize musicians in order to proclaim your love/admiration for Prince. What started out as an outstanding thread is slowly turning into something else altogether

You are partially right, but by and large most of the musicians I know are like women talking about other women "oh look at her shoes!" It's immature and distasteful and I don't think that most of the musicians I know can give good, objective observations about other musicians. One whiny musician I knew just never had anything good to say about anyone ever who had any success, when you see that over and over and over again it gets tired because it's borne of insecurity. You, as a musician, know what I'm talking about. I don't appreciate getting up from a great performance I've given where all the people appreciate it and some dumbass musician has to come up with something to say to me, it's tired and I don't do that to anyone.

Point taken

Prince as an all round artist definitly has a level of uniqueness and a lot of talent.
I dont know that I would rank him as an absolute Master of Pop Music and all its styles,all things considered I think he brings a Great all round package eg good producer, good songwriter,composer, arranger, Great Live Performer, Great Live Muscician but I wouldnt class him as Master of Pop although he has definitly knocked out some Great Pop tunes, is he in the same league of songwriter as some of the great hit writers? in terms of consistancy I think probably not, is he on the same consistancy level as a Lennon and Mccartney , I dont think so.
But as a live Performer I think he is one of the best.