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BabyImaStar1

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I was watchin Purple Rain last nite and...

So i as watchin Purple Rain last nite and its been a while since i seen it and i just wanted to no....y the hell did Apollonia cry when Prince sang Darling Nikki the song really had no relation with her or anything he never even been to her house sooo why does she run off lol.....AND ANOTHER THING why did Morris Day look all sad and shit after his last performance in the movie I dont get it he aint have nuttin to b upset about....i was juss confused bout that can ne1 clear it up 4 me?
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Reply #1 posted 04/25/06 2:47pm

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BabyImaStar1 said:

So i as watchin Purple Rain last nite and its been a while since i seen it and i just wanted to no....y the hell did Apollonia cry when Prince sang Darling Nikki the song really had no relation with her or anything he never even been to her house sooo why does she run off lol.....AND ANOTHER THING why did Morris Day look all sad and shit after his last performance in the movie I dont get it he aint have nuttin to b upset about....i was juss confused bout that can ne1 clear it up 4 me?


I guess since in the song nikki does all that grinding and stuff with him and then leaves him he related it to Apollonia having sex with him and then leaving him for Morris which she recognized and then cryed...idk maybe, the other part i completely forgot, its been a while since i've watched PR myself, i'll watch it tonite and get back to you later unless someone else answers it.
chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #2 posted 04/25/06 2:52pm

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I have yet 2 c it, & a whole much of other movies
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Reply #3 posted 04/25/06 2:54pm

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"Darling Apollonia" woulda been too obvious.

She and Prince weren't exactly on the best of terms at the time. Next thing you know, he's singing a song about a slut and looking her way. Hmmm, I wonder what inspired this performance?
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Reply #4 posted 04/25/06 2:57pm

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BabyImaStar1 said:

So i as watchin Purple Rain last nite and its been a while since i seen it and i just wanted to no....y the hell did Apollonia cry when Prince sang Darling Nikki the song really had no relation with her or anything he never even been to her house sooo why does she run off lol.....AND ANOTHER THING why did Morris Day look all sad and shit after his last performance in the movie I dont get it he aint have nuttin to b upset about....i was juss confused bout that can ne1 clear it up 4 me?


1. Apples is cryin' because well...that song is so damn cold. And if you were her, I'm sure you would assume that the song was directed at you, hence, emotional trauma and confusion.

2. Morris looks sad because he just realized he MADE FUN OF A GUY WHO'S DAD JUST TRIED TO COMMIT SUICIDE. That's generally frowned upon as far as I know. This is your conscience, muthafucka...

hmm...hope that helps...

Hahaha...tell me why like 4 replies showed up while i was typing this... lol
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Reply #5 posted 04/25/06 4:04pm

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BabyImaStar1 said:

So i as watchin Purple Rain last nite and its been a while since i seen it and i just wanted to no....y the hell did Apollonia cry when Prince sang Darling Nikki the song really had no relation with her or anything he never even been to her house sooo why does she run off lol.....AND ANOTHER THING why did Morris Day look all sad and shit after his last performance in the movie I dont get it he aint have nuttin to b upset about....i was juss confused bout that can ne1 clear it up 4 me?

I know, I asked myself that every time I c it. And I don't understand either why she cries with THE BEAUTIFUL ONES, I understand (cause I do 2) why she cries with Purple Rain. But Darling Nikki & TBO. Apollonia, R U kiddin me?
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Reply #6 posted 04/25/06 5:05pm

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BabyImaStar1 said:

So i as watchin Purple Rain last nite and its been a while since i seen it and i just wanted to no....y the hell did Apollonia cry when Prince sang Darling Nikki the song really had no relation with her or anything he never even been to her house sooo why does she run off lol.....AND ANOTHER THING why did Morris Day look all sad and shit after his last performance in the movie I dont get it he aint have nuttin to b upset about....i was juss confused bout that can ne1 clear it up 4 me?



Question 1: Because it was obvious Prince was talking to and about her, he pointed right to her and he has already hit the draws. As a side note Vanity was supposed to play the part that Crappolonia played. Vanity's name in the movie was to be Nicolette. When Vanity got booted from the movie he didn't bother to change the name of the song, probably becuase it just didn't have the same ring as Darling Nikki.

Question 2: Morris had just made a very crude remark to get a laugh in front of The Time regarding The Kid just as The Revolution was supposed to go on stage, i.e., the "How's the family?" remark which was messed up because The Kid's father had just tried to commit suicide.
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Reply #7 posted 04/25/06 6:08pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

BabyImaStar1 said:

So i as watchin Purple Rain last nite and its been a while since i seen it and i just wanted to no....y the hell did Apollonia cry when Prince sang Darling Nikki the song really had no relation with her or anything he never even been to her house sooo why does she run off lol.....AND ANOTHER THING why did Morris Day look all sad and shit after his last performance in the movie I dont get it he aint have nuttin to b upset about....i was juss confused bout that can ne1 clear it up 4 me?



Question 1: Because it was obvious Prince was talking to and about her, he pointed right to her and he has already hit the draws. As a side note Vanity was supposed to play the part that Crappolonia played. Vanity's name in the movie was to be Nicolette. When Vanity got booted from the movie he didn't bother to change the name of the song, probably becuase it just didn't have the same ring as Darling Nikki.

Question 2: Morris had just made a very crude remark to get a laugh in front of The Time regarding The Kid just as The Revolution was supposed to go on stage, i.e., the "How's the family?" remark which was messed up because The Kid's father had just tried to commit suicide.


OOOOO IIGHT lol that whole Apollonia Vanity thing makes a lot more sense now lol i wonder why they aint juss make Apollonia's name Nicolette in the movie would have saved me the trouble.....and wit the Morris day thing i figured thats wat it was but he looked upset b4 the comment 2.... like b4 they were singin lets go crazy and makin fun of it n stuff so i thought it was sumin else....iight thanxs for the help lol
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Reply #8 posted 04/25/06 6:45pm

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why the hell is Ur name "BabyImaStar" when U don't get the movie?
don't U know the history of the movie.
it's not that difficult.....

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Reply #9 posted 04/25/06 7:06pm

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PurpleRok said:

why the hell is Ur name "BabyImaStar" when U don't get the movie?
don't U know the history of the movie.
it's not that difficult.....

hello!!!!! brick


just because he didn't get two scenes doesnt mean he doesnt understand the movie as a whole...
chill..prince doesnt like men being front row, makes it hard to sing the ballads
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Reply #10 posted 04/25/06 7:31pm

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MajesticOne89 said:

PurpleRok said:

why the hell is Ur name "BabyImaStar" when U don't get the movie?
don't U know the history of the movie.
it's not that difficult.....

hello!!!!! brick


just because he didn't get two scenes doesnt mean he doesnt understand the movie as a whole...


thumbs up! Yeah, us youngins' gotta stick up for each other! lol

But another thing...

Anyone ever notice how Jill's holding that puppy in the dressing room at the end? You'd a thunk someone woulda caught that in editing and fixed it seeing as the deleted that scene!
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Reply #11 posted 04/25/06 8:03pm

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Forget about all that emotional stuff...the things that make people cry. Some cry at the drop of a dime.

Let's get to the bottom of something real (I can't figure this one out):

It's that part where Prince comes home to find his mother crying in front of the house. It's like afternoon right? Maybe early evening...
So how come when he makes it inside to confront dear old dad, it's DARK outside!?

How long was that walk to the basement door!? Where did he go? Did he walk around the block a few times to build up the courage? Go for a burger? what?

Someone shed some light on the darkness.
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Reply #12 posted 04/25/06 8:11pm

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FruitToAttractBears said:

MajesticOne89 said:



just because he didn't get two scenes doesnt mean he doesnt understand the movie as a whole...


thumbs up! Yeah, us youngins' gotta stick up for each other! lol

But another thing...

Anyone ever notice how Jill's holding that puppy in the dressing room at the end? You'd a thunk someone woulda caught that in editing and fixed it seeing as the deleted that scene!



Hell yea, i was gonna add in my original post "You people gotta stop attackin us youngins" but i didn't. but thats what i was doing, stickin up for another young prince fan like myself. biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 04/25/06 8:11pm

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anon said:

Forget about all that emotional stuff...the things that make people cry. Some cry at the drop of a dime.

Let's get to the bottom of something real (I can't figure this one out):

It's that part where Prince comes home to find his mother crying in front of the house. It's like afternoon right? Maybe early evening...
So how come when he makes it inside to confront dear old dad, it's DARK outside!?

How long was that walk to the basement door!? Where did he go? Did he walk around the block a few times to build up the courage? Go for a burger? what?

Someone shed some light on the darkness.


Well technically she was 'up the street' and not in front of the house. And I know if it were MY mom I wouldn't just be like, "Wha happened?!" and then drive away. You could speculate he talked to her more/tried to console her/whatever and then drove home. And maybe the sun set really fast... it was filmed in winter when it gets dark at like 5 o'clock, right?
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Reply #14 posted 04/25/06 8:12pm

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MajesticOne89 said:

FruitToAttractBears said:



thumbs up! Yeah, us youngins' gotta stick up for each other! lol

But another thing...

Anyone ever notice how Jill's holding that puppy in the dressing room at the end? You'd a thunk someone woulda caught that in editing and fixed it seeing as the deleted that scene!



Hell yea, i was gonna add in my original post "You people gotta stop attackin us youngins" but i didn't. but thats what i was doing, stickin up for another young prince fan like myself. biggrin


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Reply #15 posted 04/25/06 8:24pm

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FruitToAttractBears said:

anon said:

Forget about all that emotional stuff...the things that make people cry. Some cry at the drop of a dime.

Let's get to the bottom of something real (I can't figure this one out):

It's that part where Prince comes home to find his mother crying in front of the house. It's like afternoon right? Maybe early evening...
So how come when he makes it inside to confront dear old dad, it's DARK outside!?

How long was that walk to the basement door!? Where did he go? Did he walk around the block a few times to build up the courage? Go for a burger? what?

Someone shed some light on the darkness.


Well technically she was 'up the street' and not in front of the house. And I know if it were MY mom I wouldn't just be like, "Wha happened?!" and then drive away. You could speculate he talked to her more/tried to console her/whatever and then drove home. And maybe the sun set really fast... it was filmed in winter when it gets dark at like 5 o'clock, right?
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But it didn't look like the 5 o'clock dark...not even the 6 o'clock dark. It was DARK dark.
I'm going with the burger.
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Reply #16 posted 04/25/06 8:31pm

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MajesticOne89 said:

BabyImaStar1 said:

So i as watchin Purple Rain last nite and its been a while since i seen it and i just wanted to no....y the hell did Apollonia cry when Prince sang Darling Nikki the song really had no relation with her or anything he never even been to her house sooo why does she run off lol.....AND ANOTHER THING why did Morris Day look all sad and shit after his last performance in the movie I dont get it he aint have nuttin to b upset about....i was juss confused bout that can ne1 clear it up 4 me?


I guess since in the song nikki does all that grinding and stuff with him and then leaves him he related it to Apollonia having sex with him and then leaving him for Morris which she recognized and then cryed...idk maybe, the other part i completely forgot, its been a while since i've watched PR myself, i'll watch it tonite and get back to you later unless someone else answers it.



just bad acting.
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Reply #17 posted 04/25/06 8:34pm

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anon said:

FruitToAttractBears said:



Well technically she was 'up the street' and not in front of the house. And I know if it were MY mom I wouldn't just be like, "Wha happened?!" and then drive away. You could speculate he talked to her more/tried to console her/whatever and then drove home. And maybe the sun set really fast... it was filmed in winter when it gets dark at like 5 o'clock, right?
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But it didn't look like the 5 o'clock dark...not even the 6 o'clock dark. It was DARK dark.
I'm going with the burger.


Ah, well, I'll take your word then. I don't remember it being dark, but I haven't seen it in a while.

Don't you just love continuity errors? biggrin I do. My movies are full of 'em...they keep the viewers on their toes...
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Reply #18 posted 04/25/06 9:17pm

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FruitToAttractBears said:

anon said:

But it didn't look like the 5 o'clock dark...not even the 6 o'clock dark. It was DARK dark.
I'm going with the burger.


Ah, well, I'll take your word then. I don't remember it being dark, but I haven't seen it in a while.

Don't you just love continuity errors? biggrin I do. My movies are full of 'em...they keep the viewers on their toes...
I hadn't seen it in a while either but I just checked. You're right. I see now that he was on his way home and pulled over when he spotted her. Still the "gets darkrealfast in winter" part...I don't know (it only gets dark that fast in cartoons). Maybe we can let that one squeeze by...blame it on the edit.

Anyway, it's time to watch it again.
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Reply #19 posted 04/25/06 10:14pm

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anon said:

FruitToAttractBears said:



Well technically she was 'up the street' and not in front of the house. And I know if it were MY mom I wouldn't just be like, "Wha happened?!" and then drive away. You could speculate he talked to her more/tried to console her/whatever and then drove home. And maybe the sun set really fast... it was filmed in winter when it gets dark at like 5 o'clock, right?
[Edited 4/25/06 20:17pm]
But it didn't look like the 5 o'clock dark...not even the 6 o'clock dark. It was DARK dark.
I'm going with the burger.


winter in Minnesota at 5 is really dark sad
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Reply #20 posted 04/25/06 10:17pm

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The thing in this movie that struck me was the rage Prince displayed in the seane where he destroys the basement and finds his father's songs. Prince is no phenomonal actor...but that anger and violence was pretty scary and quite convincing. It made me think something bad happened to him early on...and the anger in some of his songs like Lady Cab driver...I wonder where that anger comes from.
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Reply #21 posted 04/25/06 10:30pm

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Krystal666 said:

The thing in this movie that struck me was the rage Prince displayed in the seane where he destroys the basement and finds his father's songs. Prince is no phenomonal actor...but that anger and violence was pretty scary and quite convincing. .


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Reply #22 posted 04/25/06 10:41pm

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DiamondGirl said:

Krystal666 said:

The thing in this movie that struck me was the rage Prince displayed in the seane where he destroys the basement and finds his father's songs. Prince is no phenomonal actor...but that anger and violence was pretty scary and quite convincing. .


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Reply #23 posted 04/26/06 1:15am

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BabyImaStar1 said:

So i as watchin Purple Rain last nite and its been a while since i seen it and i just wanted to no....y the hell did Apollonia cry when Prince sang Darling Nikki the song really had no relation with her or anything he never even been to her house sooo why does she run off lol.....AND ANOTHER THING why did Morris Day look all sad and shit after his last performance in the movie I dont get it he aint have nuttin to b upset about....i was juss confused bout that can ne1 clear it up 4 me?



I remember a friend of mine said that Apollonia shouldn't have been fazed by "Darling Nikki".She should have just sat there and acted like The Kid was referring to somebody else,lol.It's not as if he identifies her by name in the song.

As for Morris looking sad after performing "The Bird"....I think he simply felt bad for The Kid,since his father had just shot himself.
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Reply #24 posted 04/26/06 4:18am

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hmm...

i took it more as an aggression, something like rita hayworth's strip performance "put the blame on mame" in "gilda." being slutty on stage in order to tick someone off, by reminding them of how much others of the opposite sex like you, and how many conquests you can have besides the person in question.
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The Apollonia character was originally planned as "Nikki", played by Vanity.


When Vanity left the Prince camp shortly before shooting began Prince re-named the "Nikki" character to "Apollonia", who , by the way, happens to live in a hotel, so the lyrics still make sense and give it a "not-so-obvious" vibe....but it would´ve made more sense, in a way, if he had stuck with the "Nikki" name for the female leading role.
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Reply #26 posted 04/26/06 4:31am

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Heiress said:

hmm...

i took it more as an aggression, something like rita hayworth's strip performance "put the blame on mame" in "gilda." being slutty on stage in order to tick someone off, by reminding them of how much others of the opposite sex like you, and how many conquests you can have besides the person in question.
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Interesting take.

Sorta like him saying, "You're not the only one who's had me!" Which is a very feminine attitude.

It's a way to reclaim your body, your sense of independence. By publicly flaunting your sexiness you're saying it's YOURS to do as you please, not something between you and your ex...
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Reply #27 posted 04/26/06 4:33am

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Heiress said:

hmm...

i took it more as an aggression, something like rita hayworth's strip performance "put the blame on mame" in "gilda." being slutty on stage in order to tick someone off, by reminding them of how much others of the opposite sex like you, and how many conquests you can have besides the person in question.
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Interesting take.

Sorta like him saying, "You're not the only one who's had me!" Which is a very feminine attitude.

It's a way to reclaim your body, your sense of independence. By publicly flaunting your sexiness you're saying it's YOURS to do as you please, not something between you and your ex...


yes...

in spite everything said about prince's attitude with women, i do find him a very feminine sort of guy, in many positive ways...
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Reply #28 posted 04/26/06 5:04am

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KoolEaze said:

The Apollonia character was originally planned as "Nikki", played by Vanity.


When Vanity left the Prince camp shortly before shooting began Prince re-named the "Nikki" character to "Apollonia", who , by the way, happens to live in a hotel, so the lyrics still make sense and give it a "not-so-obvious" vibe....but it would´ve made more sense, in a way, if he had stuck with the "Nikki" name for the female leading role.


biggrin I must be really dense because I have always thought Prince was saying "Hey I cheated on you with a girl named Nikki. Take that!"
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Reply #29 posted 04/26/06 5:27am

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Krystal666 said:

KoolEaze said:

The Apollonia character was originally planned as "Nikki", played by Vanity.


When Vanity left the Prince camp shortly before shooting began Prince re-named the "Nikki" character to "Apollonia", who , by the way, happens to live in a hotel, so the lyrics still make sense and give it a "not-so-obvious" vibe....but it would´ve made more sense, in a way, if he had stuck with the "Nikki" name for the female leading role.


biggrin I must be really dense because I have always thought Prince was saying "Hey I cheated on you with a girl named Nikki. Take that!"




Well, your version makes sense as well since the whole context was slightly changed after the "Nikki/Apollonia" namechange.I mean, it is possible to look at it the way you do....guess that´s why they shot the scene the way they did.
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