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Reply #30 posted 07/22/02 9:55am

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Dorian said:

We DO know that the first people were "black" as in the earliest people were found in africa



The biggest question is this... What fucking difference would it make if everyone came from Africa, China or anywhere else? If scientists discovered that the earliest humans were from Australia, would you start saying "D'day, mate" and stuff like that?

All life evolved from tiny micro-organisms but I feel no special affection for a paramecium or amoeba...
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Reply #31 posted 07/22/02 9:59am

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I've been painting murals in the kids classrooms at church lately and refuse to paint pictures of Jesus based soley on this.

There is no picture of what he really looked like.

I would hate to fill these kids' heads with a pre-conception of what He really looked like.

The elders of the church agree.
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Reply #32 posted 07/22/02 10:09am

Nep2nes

Dorian said:

We DO know that the first people were "black" as in the earliest people were found in africa



U know this..until archaeologists find older ones somewhere else.

Thus, ur happiness is only temporary, sorry 2 tell u. sad
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Reply #33 posted 07/22/02 10:15am

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Irish Echo is a fraud.
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Reply #34 posted 07/22/02 10:15am

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The1AndOnlyAndTheOnly1 said:

If it was accepted across the board, in all nations, all cultures, and all religions, that Jesus was a black man...do you think blacks would be viewed and/or treated differently by other races? I am not saying that I believe that he was black, but the Bible clearly states that "his skin was the color of copper, and his hair like sheeps wool"! This is not reflected in the popular pictures of the white Jesus with straight hair and milky white complexion. I wonder why? Based solely on the desciption in the Bible, I do believe that he was a man of color. Before someone post a reply asking what difference does his color make, I will quote Louis Farrakhan (and I am not a member of the Nation of Islam or of Islamic faith),"If it was not important what color Jesus was, then why did they change it"(referring to pictures versus the description in the Bible). On a lighter note, no pun intended, Be safe and be carefull. May God Bless you with health and inner peace. I am the one and only and the only one!

- Good question...smile There are great chances that Jesus was closer to black (or arab) skin than white, you can be sure
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Reply #35 posted 07/22/02 10:22am

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People will always see what they want 2 see...if its easier on the eyes & mind or softer 4 the soul 2 bare... then whatever goes is what will flow~
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Reply #36 posted 07/22/02 10:24am

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UsexyMF said:

People will always see what they want 2 see...if its easier on the eyes & mind or softer 4 the soul 2 bare... then whatever goes is what will flow~


A fine point!
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Reply #37 posted 07/22/02 10:59am

Jarret

And what if the Easter Bunny was orange, like those rabbits that Bobby Brady tried to sell? Also worth contemplating.
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Reply #38 posted 07/22/02 11:11am

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If Jesus were black, gay, dislexic, hard of hearing and lactose intolerant, then what? He would probably have hung around with Mary Magdelena even more.
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Reply #39 posted 07/22/02 11:11am

JDODSON

I don't care what color Jesus was, it is all love, and I love all.


Peace,

JD
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Reply #40 posted 07/22/02 11:14am

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don't worry about what color he is just focus on the good he tried to do
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Reply #41 posted 07/22/02 11:18am

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sounds like a classic mediterranean male to me.
most folks from israel are not 'milky-white' - fits right in.

you guys are getting israeli's confused with classic europeans.

why did these europeans change his name from yeshua (hebrew name) to jesus anyway?

oh, and along with the wooly hair and darker skin, the bible also mentions that he had light colored eyes and they were slanted. would you call him asian if thats the case? i think the bible tries to depict the man as having qualities of all races.
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Reply #42 posted 07/22/02 11:41am

waterhead

If Jesus were black, well in my hood they would have beat him up. Because they don't like men wearing dresses around here. Just kidding. I love Jesus. Red, yellow, black, white or green. I love Jesus. And I hate Satan. Satan Sucks donkeys in hell.
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Reply #43 posted 07/22/02 11:43am

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waterhead said:

If Jesus were black, well in my hood they would have beat him up. Because they don't like men wearing dresses around here. Just kidding. I love Jesus. Red, yellow, black, white or green. I love Jesus. And I hate Satan. Satan Sucks donkeys in hell.



Now what in the world did the donkeys do to deserve going to hell?
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Reply #44 posted 07/22/02 11:48am

JDODSON

I think most of America wants to believe that the US is now scripturally the new Israel, and that George Bush is Jesus. Not me, folks. Not me. Israel is always Israel, and Jesus Christ has not come back to Earth yet, especially not in Geroge Bush. hahahahaa


Peace,

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Reply #45 posted 07/22/02 11:53am

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there are Black Jews
Jesus would be a nigga today
but white people created his image
so they would feel better about themselves
bet U cats still think Sampson was some white guy with long hair
bet U cats think Ethopia is in Greece
lol
we all know mankind started from an African Women
but people would rather believe thay came from monkeys than from a african women
look at the people who are still Israelites, now that's like saying look at the African Americans today to see what they looked like post slavery
and get a diffrent Avatar
after that dumb ass remark
u must be another one of them niggas that thank she a cracka


stab
Nat Turner

barf
Nat Turner

:ignorant:
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Reply #46 posted 07/22/02 11:54am

sojourner

Back than and now ,people from the middle east don't have a black skin ,they look like arabics.
If jesus were black ,he would have had an afro hairdo instead of long-straight and curly.
He would have been crucified anyway.
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Reply #47 posted 07/22/02 11:58am

waterhead

IceNine said:

waterhead said:

If Jesus were black, well in my hood they would have beat him up. Because they don't like men wearing dresses around here. Just kidding. I love Jesus. Red, yellow, black, white or green. I love Jesus. And I hate Satan. Satan Sucks donkeys in hell.



Now what in the world did the donkeys do to deserve going to hell?

I'm not the judge. Only God could tell you that answer.
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Reply #48 posted 07/22/02 11:58am

eos23

UserCurrentlyKnownAsFAM said:[quote]me getting death threats bcause Jesus had hair like Geneva?
PuhLeeese!

Hey, people have been threatened on this site for less "controversial" threads, U should see some of the org notes I've received in the past because I brought up issues of race...I was joking really...but then not really..the people on this site can be pretty vicious when they want to be. And I was joking about the whole changing the name of your thread, I just know that threads that aren't specifically Prince related often find themselves deleted.
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Reply #49 posted 07/22/02 12:03pm

eos23

UserCurrentlyKnownAsFAM said:

darn sticky keyboard typos

that should b eye DIDN'T WRITE THIS THREAD!

the1andonlyandtheonly1 did it.

eos23,
u wonder my death threats and u open the racial can of worms?
The United Snakes of America won't like what we said there one bit!

wink

OOOps, I clicked on the reply button under the wrong name, but I was addressing the ONe and only...sorry...And as far as the U.S...Hey I'm a political activist, I'm constantly up in the faces of these so called public servants, so I've taken the heat face to face, NOthing that hasn't been done before by many who have come before me.Somebody has to keep these politicans in check while the american people sleep.

ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!
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Reply #50 posted 07/22/02 12:08pm

eos23

Science really believes that Adam and Eve were the source of the human race? lol[/quote]


There are many different schools of science and they are always arguing back and forth, so who knows. I do know that they supposedly found the remains of a woman which they named Eve and she's supposed to be the oldest human to date, and she was black.
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Reply #51 posted 07/22/02 12:10pm

eos23

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Anyone with any shred of common sense knows Jesus was the color of any other human in His neck of the woods. He wasn't ghetto-black as soulpower points out, but he certainly wasn't the brown haired, blue eyed mac daddy from http://www.jesus.com Jesus was/is respected & loved by sany (& hated by so many more) not because He was a bronze-skinned man or whatever, but because He was a good man. We as a people really need to learn how to start hating people on an individual basis & not basing our feelings for them on their skintone. You'll miss out on some decent people, otherwise.



"Ghetto black"??? what the hell is that???
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Reply #52 posted 07/22/02 12:19pm

eos23

IrishEcho said:[
Africa may have been the cradle of civilization, but black people were not the mothers & fathers of the world, as much as you'd like to believe. Or, go ahead & believe it, & accept the fact that every other race was too smart to stick around in the jungle throwing spears at lions & putting plates in their lips. Going by your theory, that's the only logical conclusion.[/quote]

Scientifically speaking Black people have dominant genes, whites..recessive. You can get a recessive gene from a dominant gene, but not a dominant gene from a recessive gene. meaning that black people are the mothers and fathers of civilization and all life came from the womb of a black woman. Even if we did evolve from monkeys.(LOL) The different races evolved out of the black race, And there is scientific documentation on this if anyone cares to research beyond NBC nightly news, and the Sunday paper.
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Reply #53 posted 07/22/02 12:24pm

eos23

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According to the Bible, Jesus was a Hebrew.
He was an Israelite.
He was a Jew.
Mary was,also.
So was Joseph.
If you wonder what Jesus looked like, look
at the people who are still Israelites.
Jesus was not Black.

The scripture that makes reference to hair
like "pure wool" is Daniel 7:9 where Daniel,
the prophet is seeing a vision, not of
Jesus Christ, but of the Almighty God whom he
calls the "Ancient of Days". Daniel speaks in
symbolism. John 1:18 says "No man has seen God
at any time..." God is a spirit.(John4:24).

Many people saw Jesus when he was on earth and
he fit in so well with his contemporaries, the
Hebrew people, that Judas had to be paid to
identify him.
What is significant is that he was willing to
die for all mankind.

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Did u know that the Madonna and baby Jesus in the Vatican are black? The catholic church has "alot" of information that they have kept hidden from the masses!!! Yup, the Pope honors the Black Madonna. In fact there is a place in ATlanta called the Shrine of the Black Madonna that u can get in depth historical information about this very fact.
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Reply #54 posted 07/22/02 12:28pm

eos23

Dorian said:

There were african civilizations irish echo. There was the city of benin in west africa which produced lots of gold articacts, intricate buildings. Just visit the british museum. also the ancient egyptians were not the fair people you see in the movies. In fact the sphinx' nose was destroyed because a french general couldnt bear th fact that the nose was so "negroid"., which would of course suggest that the ancient egyptians were far more black that most people are willing to admit.



i have a professor friend who is an archeaologist, and he is scrambling for funding to get over to Africa so that he can document and record as many artifacts as he can. It seems that the Europeans are at it again...Going over to Africa taking the artificats and changing them so that they appear to be more caucasian. Many of the artifacts that u find on tour in these major museums have been altered in appearance. The skin lightened and the noses made smaller.. Man...When will it end???
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Reply #55 posted 07/22/02 12:32pm

eos23

Nep2nes said:

soulpower said:

in fact black people are the mothers and fathers of the world. the first big civilazations were black.


U really don't know that...no1 knows that.


No, U "really" don't know that, because we have all been lied to by this white supremecist idealogy that has written our history books. Research it and u will find that even science has to admit that the cradle of civilization is indeed Africa and African people...
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Reply #56 posted 07/22/02 12:32pm

Dorian

I totally agree eos. Its a taboo subject but this has been going on for a long time. In the Victorian era many of the archeologists spean hours altering these artefacts. Its not just on African subjects- but also in greece and italy. They reinforced the myth that the romans were blonde and blue eyed.Similarly in spain the whole "moorish" heritage is dowplayed.
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Reply #57 posted 07/22/02 12:35pm

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Surely Jesus was closer to Black than White.
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Reply #58 posted 07/22/02 12:37pm

eos23

IceNine said:

Dorian said:

We DO know that the first people were "black" as in the earliest people were found in africa



The biggest question is this... What fucking difference would it make if everyone came from Africa, China or anywhere else? If scientists discovered that the earliest humans were from Australia, would you start saying "D'day, mate" and stuff like that?

All life evolved from tiny micro-organisms but I feel no special affection for a paramecium or amoeba...


I think it "would" make a big difference. It would kinda be hard for people to be racist if they knew that they came from a common source. Imagine telling your mom and dad to go sit in the back of the bus...LOL. And we should have a "special" affection for all of nature, all of life, because we are ONE.
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Reply #59 posted 07/22/02 12:50pm

sojourner

The reason that Jesus is not black ,is that christianity has been developped in Europe.
The Rulers of the world back than were white.

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