If it was accepted across the board, in all nations, all cultures, and all religions, that Jesus was a black man...do you think blacks would be viewed and/or treated differently by other races? I am not saying that I believe that he was black, but the Bible clearly states that "his skin was the color of copper, and his hair like sheeps wool"! This is not reflected in the popular pictures of the white Jesus with straight hair and milky white complexion. I wonder why? Based solely on the desciption in the Bible, I do believe that he was a man of color. Before someone post a reply asking what difference does his color make, I will quote Louis Farrakhan (and I am not a member of the Nation of Islam or of Islamic faith),"If it was not important what color Jesus was, then why did they change it"(referring to pictures versus the description in the Bible). On a lighter note, no pun intended, Be safe and be carefull. May God Bless you with health and inner peace. I am the one and only and the only one!

You wonder why Jesus is depicted as milky white, blonde and blue eyed? Do you honestly?

"his skin was the color of copper, and his hair like sheeps wool"
this says it all. look how the people look like in the region where jesus once has lived. 2000 ys ago there was even more blackness. he was not black in terms of "african". but he sure was black enough to be termed "nigger" in some parts of america.
its time people accept the truth. however, to true believers it wont matter what color his skin was, right?

sheeps wool is not xactly...NAPPY!
soft and very curly it is, but Jesus b ing a a Nazarene, eye think there was something about not cutting his hair.
so it was long lamb's wool, sorta like Geneva's hair, 4 ppl who would need a dscriptive.

NO, Jesus was not a Rastaman. they don't blieve n a comb.

UserCurrentlyKnownAsFAM said:

You probably should have named this thread "What if Prince was Jesus" that way it would be Prince related, and u wouldn't have to worry about it getting locked, and u could still make your point about Jesus being black.

It has been scientifically hypothesized that Adam and Eve were black,(u know the whole dominant-vs-recessive gene study) in fact they had a black Adam and Eve on the cover of Newsweek many years ago. Africa is the cradle of civilization so you know, u just might be on to something. What cracks me up is that I don't care what color Jesus was I study his teachings, but u are sure to ruffle alot of feathers with this one. Hope u don't get any death threats...LOL

eos23 said:

Science really believes that Adam and Eve were the source of the human race?

me getting death threats bcause Jesus had hair like Geneva?
PuhLeeese!

and eye did make this thread...and eye would find it sacrilegious 2 compare Prince 2 Jesus...even 2 fit this thread.

but note this...

Prince was pretty Jesus-looking 4 a while there, with the beard, long hair, and those deep stern eyeing looks!

since eye do not no Jesus' actual look, other than artists rendentions of blonde haired blue-eyed ones, a few ethnic ones here and there, Prince came closer 2 filling the bill 4 a moment, look-wise, than many others.

but there is something n Prince's Eyes that u can c anyway...it was always there...
was it depth? was it seeking? was it spiritual?
and it seems he doesn't really want u 2 look deep n2 his eyes, unless he is looking deep n2 urs 1rst.

eye had that xperience!

darn sticky keyboard typos

that should b eye DIDN'T WRITE THIS THREAD!

the1andonlyandtheonly1 did it.

eos23,
u wonder my death threats and u open the racial can of worms?
The United Snakes of America won't like what we said there one bit!

I will end in HIS arms. This is my desire.

Anyone with any shred of common sense knows Jesus was the color of any other human in His neck of the woods. He wasn't ghetto-black as soulpower points out, but he certainly wasn't the brown haired, blue eyed mac daddy from http://www.jesus.com Jesus was/is respected & loved by sany (& hated by so many more) not because He was a bronze-skinned man or whatever, but because He was a good man. We as a people really need to learn how to start hating people on an individual basis & not basing our feelings for them on their skintone. You'll miss out on some decent people, otherwise.

According to the Bible, Jesus was a Hebrew.
He was an Israelite.
He was a Jew.
Mary was,also.
So was Joseph.
If you wonder what Jesus looked like, look
at the people who are still Israelites.
Jesus was not Black.

The scripture that makes reference to hair
like "pure wool" is Daniel 7:9 where Daniel,
the prophet is seeing a vision, not of
Jesus Christ, but of the Almighty God whom he
calls the "Ancient of Days". Daniel speaks in
symbolism. John 1:18 says "No man has seen God
at any time..." God is a spirit.(John4:24).

Many people saw Jesus when he was on earth and
he fit in so well with his contemporaries, the
Hebrew people, that Judas had to be paid to
identify him.
What is significant is that he was willing to
die for all mankind.

-

Well said Sensual Melody.

there are Black Jews
Jesus would be a nigga today
but white people created his image
so they would feel better about themselves
bet U cats still think Sampson was some white guy with long hair
bet U cats think Ethopia is in Greece
lol
we all know mankind started from an African Women
but people would rather believe thay came from monkeys than from a african women
look at the people who are still Israelites, now that's like saying look at the African Americans today to see what they looked like post slavery
and get a diffrent Avatar
after that dumb ass remark
u must be another one of them niggas that thank she a cracka

NatTurner said:

African women came from monkeys. Science tells us that...now would you accept that, you racist git?

Jesus wasn't exactly black and Jesus wasn't exactly white. Jesus was Jesus. He was the son of God. Ya know not all Bibles show the blonde haired blue eyed man. The bible I have shows a man with olive toned skin, bark brown eyes, and long wavy dark brown hair. Does that mean anything? No. But until we see the man himself we will not know what he looked like. He was the color of the people of his area in his time but don't ya think that maybe the skin tone may have changed since then? There is no way to know the truth. But as for if blacks would have been veiwed differently...yes they would have because we easily would have associated them with a divine being. But the fact is at some point in time someone decided to put a face to this man that may or not be accurate. It is not right but it cannot be changed. What can be changed is our views today.
[This message was edited Mon Jul 22 7:14:56 PDT 2002 by STARFISHNCOFFEE]

"If oxen and horses or lions had hands, and could paint with their hands and produce works of art as men do, horses would paint the forms of the gods like horses, and oxen like oxen, and make their bodies in the image of their several kinds." - Xenophanes

IrishEcho said:

theC
AND U(little leaf)FROM THE AFRICAN WOMAN.MAYBE U SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE MORE RESPECT 4 THE MOTHERS AND FATHERS OF YR CIVILIZATION,OF ALL CIVILIZATIONS 4 THAT MATTER.
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IrishEcho said:

Yes, but do learn hate? - Individual... nono, I dream to dislearn to do hate and be conprensible, but then it just happend what you are abouve talking about... they will hate you because you are good and do love. That's the cruel reality: If you are a person who can't hate, all will mean you'r an object they can abuse and they will do as you were unintelligent, dumm, is the name in German.

theC said:

Africa may have been the cradle of civilization, but black people were not the mothers & fathers of the world, as much as you'd like to believe. Or, go ahead & believe it, & accept the fact that every other race was too smart to stick around in the jungle throwing spears at lions & putting plates in their lips. Going by your theory, that's the only logical conclusion.

IrishEcho said:

Irish, I dont think it was so smart leaving the jungle, as you said it. people there dont need clothes, air condition, heat, isolated windows, ovens, etc. they stayed in the environment man was supposed to live in. in fact black people are the mothers and fathers of the world. the first big civilazations were black. too bad, they fucked it up. now its the white people's turn. they are on their way to fuck it as well --- only worse.

SensualMelody said:

you are correct if you are talking about the israelian culture today. but 2000 years ago the israelians were a lot darker. today they are of lighter shade because they have mixed with romans and later with middle european jews. look at photographs from the late 19th century. you will see black people. as I said before, jesus was not black as a brother from angola. but he was dark enough that he would have had to sit in the back of a bus.

i believe that jesus was black and so were the origial jews. science is slowly acknowleding that fact. every year different studies are making jesus darker and darker. as far as long hair, i believe it was mark who made a derogatory remark about men with long hair. if jesus had long hair i am not sure a disciple would talk negativly of it. i dont have my bible with me at work otherwise i could give you the exact scripture. sorry peoples.

if Jesus had been a white boy with blue eyes and light hair, do you think ANYONE in that reason would have believed in his message? Would the people have called him King of the Jews if he did not look like any other Jews of the day? There would have been talk in the bible of naysayers going "yeah right, how can you be king of the Jews when you aren't even one of us?"

Jesus DEFINITELY was darker than depicted in the common ways we are familiar with. Besides, the first known paintings of Jesus were done once Christianity (Catholicism in particular) was widely accepted, which was hundreds of years after Jesus walked this planet. This is when Europe started being the cultural center of things and when was the last time you saw any non-whites being the primary subject of any European paintings from say 500-1500 AD? Milky white was more their style.

The colour of Jesus is irrelevant. The personal features and appearance of Jesus is not refered to in the scriptures. If the skin colour of Jesus was important it would have been made explicit. However, Jesus' lineage is a vital part in the acceptance that he is the son of God and this is described in the scriptures. SensualMelody has mentioned that in her post above.

The example that Jesus set and the sacrifice he made are the important issues, not his colour.

There were african civilizations irish echo. There was the city of benin in west africa which produced lots of gold articacts, intricate buildings. Just visit the british museum. also the ancient egyptians were not the fair people you see in the movies. In fact the sphinx' nose was destroyed because a french general couldnt bear th fact that the nose was so "negroid"., which would of course suggest that the ancient egyptians were far more black that most people are willing to admit.

Jesus was brown.

Unless you change the subject of this thread to "The Cross/The Christ: Was Prince right in his desriptions?" it's heading for a locking.

Who cares?

U know, Jesus even warned about this: About focusing on human questions rather than the message.

Who gives a shit HOW he was nailed 2 the cross? Cross beam or no crossbeam? Well, apparently the JW's worry about it. I don't.

In the end, it's just the message. 2 me, he was niether black nor white, he was Israeli--and if u look at Israelis 2day some r dark, with dark hair, some r light, with blonde hair. It varies.

soulpower said:

U really don't know that...no1 knows that.

We DO know that the first people were "black" as in the earliest people were found in africa