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Thread started 04/24/06 3:44am

IstenSzek

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Tamar album pushed back to June (and finally some news on Prince himself)

hey

the same email that i mentioned earlier in this thread:

http://www.prince.org/msg/7/186541

also mentions that there will be a new tamar single in
stores asap.

the song is called "Holla & Shout" but is not finished
yet and Prince is in the studio with tamar to finish it
and mix it "right now" according to the email.

the album, they go on to say will "hopefully" be in the
stores by june.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #1 posted 04/24/06 4:48am

ludwig

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Reply #2 posted 04/24/06 5:06am

tane1976

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Thats crazy, he don wanna let her steal his thunder, the poor girl needs 2 go solo, Prince wil only promote u so far
17 Years ago I made a commitment to Prince
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Reply #3 posted 04/24/06 5:37am

Imago

Roadhouse Tamar disbelief
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Reply #4 posted 04/24/06 7:01am

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Imago said:

Roadhouse Tamar disbelief

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You guys are quick to blame P but, he is not in control of the date the CD is going to come out or the promotion. I think Universal has really blown it with
3121 and her project.
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Reply #5 posted 04/24/06 7:28am

sallysassalot

laurarichardson said:

Imago said:

Roadhouse Tamar disbelief

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You guys are quick to blame P but, he is not in control of the date the CD is going to come out or the promotion. I think Universal has really blown it with
3121 and her project.

universal nothing.

prince hasn't done a single tv performance (ellen, oprah, leno, letterman, the view, etc, etc, etc) and this fact has little to nothing to do with universal. universal pushed several major corporations to take part in massive 3121 promotion (the purple ticket thing, best buy and tower record's $3121 shopping spree contest), and they got black sweat played regularly on vh1 (they're still airing it as i saw it this morning).

universal can't do all the work, though. prince needs to step up to bat and support this project himself.
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Reply #6 posted 04/24/06 9:23am

laurarichardso
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sallysassalot said:

laurarichardson said:


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You guys are quick to blame P but, he is not in control of the date the CD is going to come out or the promotion. I think Universal has really blown it with
3121 and her project.

universal nothing.

prince hasn't done a single tv performance (ellen, oprah, leno, letterman, the view, etc, etc, etc) and this fact has little to nothing to do with universal. universal pushed several major corporations to take part in massive 3121 promotion (the purple ticket thing, best buy and tower record's $3121 shopping spree contest), and they got black sweat played regularly on vh1 (they're still airing it as i saw it this morning).

universal can't do all the work, though. prince needs to step up to bat and support this project himself.

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They can't get the songs played on the radio. I am sorry that is major failure.
Yes, P could go on some T.V shows but most people get their exposure to music from the radio.

We don't know what is going on behind the scenes but, I am sure we will find out soon enough.
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Reply #7 posted 04/24/06 12:11pm

pkidwell

Even 3121 is too good for radio. I wonder if they play him on Sirius or Xm?
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Reply #8 posted 04/24/06 12:20pm

NicholeAngelic
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When they feel like it, they will release the Music, and it will be great. I know its gonna sound good.

Tamar, You should be Proud of Yourself. I bet Prince is Proud of You. I don't know Ya, yet I'm Proud of Ya.

with love,
-nickki
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Reply #9 posted 04/24/06 3:25pm

redflag

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Even 3121 is too good for radio. I wonder if they play him on Sirius or Xm?


I don't know about XM, but Sirius has been very good to Prince. They were one of the few outlets to put Te Amo in heavy rotation and did the same for Black Sweat. They've even put the Tamar song (BL&B) in heavy rotation as well. Sirius also has given regular play to non-single tracks like Lolita, Satisfied and Dear Mr. Man from the last album. This is about as close as it gets to the old days when a radio station would play several cuts from a new Prince album upon it's release. Whatever blacklist Prince is on with terrestrial radio PDs doesn't seem to apply with Sirius.
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Reply #10 posted 04/24/06 3:31pm

NicholeAngelic
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ha ha ha ha ha ha. i'm hungry. do you like shreadded carrots with lettuce and sweet and sour barbque sauce?
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Reply #11 posted 04/24/06 5:49pm

2freaky4church
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Tamar must give amazing head.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #12 posted 04/24/06 6:03pm

BSK3601

laurarichardson said:

Imago said:

Roadhouse Tamar disbelief

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You guys are quick to blame P but, he is not in control of the date the CD is going to come out or the promotion. I think Universal has really blown it with
3121 and her project.


C'mon now, you can't dare say Universal didn't set Prince up right with this? This was the best promotion he'd ever had and he didn't show face. Did he think this was Around the World in a Day 2006 where he could just throw the record in shops and see what happens?

Despite the release of two singles that went nowhere...

Willa Wonka style promotion, print/television ads, debuting at # 1 (a feat Prince never accomplished in his Warner years) and you've got the audacity to blame Universal?!!?!?!


Please... rolleyes
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Reply #13 posted 04/24/06 6:13pm

Ifsixwuz9

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BSK3601 said:

laurarichardson said:


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You guys are quick to blame P but, he is not in control of the date the CD is going to come out or the promotion. I think Universal has really blown it with
3121 and her project.


C'mon now, you can't dare say Universal didn't set Prince up right with this? This was the best promotion he'd ever had and he didn't show face. Did he think this was Around the World in a Day 2006 where he could just throw the record in shops and see what happens?

Despite the release of two singles that went nowhere...

Willa Wonka style promotion, print/television ads, debuting at # 1 (a feat Prince never accomplished in his Warner years) and you've got the audacity to blame Universal?!!?!?!


Please... rolleyes



I disagree somewhat. If and, this is a big "IF" Prince wasn't responsible for the album being leaked some 2 or 3 weeks before the release date they dropped the ball big time. There are plenty of casual fans who may actually enjoy the album but didn't buy the dang thing because they downloaded it on the internet for free.
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Reply #14 posted 04/24/06 6:29pm

BSK3601

Ifsixwuz9 said:


I disagree somewhat. If and, this is a big "IF" Prince wasn't responsible for the album being leaked some 2 or 3 weeks before the release date they dropped the ball big time. There are plenty of casual fans who may actually enjoy the album but didn't buy the dang thing because they downloaded it on the internet for free.


We're in an age where NO album released on a major label makes it without being released at least 2 weeks before the date. Prince didn't do that. The only reason Musicology didn't "leak" is because of the giveaways and the fact that it had already been released by the music club.

Now unless there is something Prince can't speak about, (which is very unlikely considering he's had no problems bashing Warner, EMI, and Arista when those deals went sour in his eyes) Universal handled (and is still handling) the promotion for this album very well for a "one-off deal"...

I'm sorry, Universal did what they were supposed to do.
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Reply #15 posted 04/24/06 6:33pm

PurpleCharm

2freaky4church1 said:

Tamar must give amazing head.



no no no!
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Reply #16 posted 04/24/06 11:50pm

DavidEye

2freaky4church1 said:

Tamar must give amazing head.


lol
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Reply #17 posted 04/25/06 2:49am

freakyfeet

laurarichardson said:

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They can't get the songs played on the radio. I am sorry that is major failure.


And why do you think that is ?

Universal don't seem to have that problem with any of their other artists so why just Prince ?
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Reply #18 posted 04/25/06 8:25am

origmnd

This is getting just plain stupid with all the amateur execs on here telling how to pomote.
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Reply #19 posted 04/25/06 9:50am

Krish

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Correct me if I'm wrong but Prince's albums have never been heavily promoted except probably Batman. Every release has been put out and left to sink or swim, in the last 12 years or so there has not been a strong release of singles and thats what keeps interest in albums.
In my opinion he's no more popular now than he was when he released Symbol.
Johnny got a hat cuz he don't trust pills....
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Reply #20 posted 04/25/06 9:53am

Daddy

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I'd say Musicology was heavily promoted.
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Reply #21 posted 04/25/06 10:15am

Krish

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Daddy said:

I'd say Musicology was heavily promoted.


No real airplay of any of the Musicology album tracks other than Musicology in the UK, there were no proper single releases that registered in the UK charts even though Musicology was relesed as a single, I never saw the Cinnamon Girl video on TV (but I may have not been watching at the time).
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Reply #22 posted 04/25/06 10:40am

sallysassalot

Krish said:

Daddy said:

I'd say Musicology was heavily promoted.


No real airplay of any of the Musicology album tracks other than Musicology in the UK, there were no proper single releases that registered in the UK charts even though Musicology was relesed as a single, I never saw the Cinnamon Girl video on TV (but I may have not been watching at the time).

call my name was played a lot on radio.
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Reply #23 posted 04/25/06 10:48am

alwayslate

IstenSzek said:

hey

the same email that i mentioned earlier in this thread:

http://www.prince.org/msg/7/186541

also mentions that there will be a new tamar single in
stores asap.

the song is called "Holla & Shout" but is not finished
yet and Prince is in the studio with tamar to finish it
and mix it "right now" according to the email.

the album, they go on to say will "hopefully" be in the
stores by june.

it doesn't matter.
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Reply #24 posted 04/25/06 12:16pm

IstenSzek

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alwayslate said:

IstenSzek said:

hey

the same email that i mentioned earlier in this thread:

http://www.prince.org/msg/7/186541

also mentions that there will be a new tamar single in
stores asap.

the song is called "Holla & Shout" but is not finished
yet and Prince is in the studio with tamar to finish it
and mix it "right now" according to the email.

the album, they go on to say will "hopefully" be in the
stores by june.

it doesn't matter.


what doesn't?

confuse

i would be very happy if the Fury single contains some
nice extra's like an extra song or remix. i'd love to
be able to go out and buy the single if it had those.

and well, the Tamar album simply seems to be pushed to
the back a bit since they're adding some new tunes to
it since this new song is still in mixing stages.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #25 posted 04/25/06 3:01pm

bigsexy

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I'd say Musicology was heavily promoted.

Emancipation was his most promoted album IMO
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Reply #26 posted 04/25/06 4:10pm

origmnd

What happened to all the planned tv appearances?

did universal pull the plug on those shows or mislead Prince in some way?
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Reply #27 posted 04/25/06 4:33pm

Rebeljuice

laurarichardson said:


They can't get the songs played on the radio. I am sorry that is major failure.
Yes, P could go on some T.V shows but most people get their exposure to music from the radio.


yes they do. But getting on the radio isnt all down to the record company. Sure, they buy air time a lot. But to get the kind of airplay required means you have to be current. You have to be in the news, you have to be popular and there has to be anticipation for it. Prince doesnt have that anymore. So for him to get radio play he needs to be in the limelight. He needs to be doing his own promotion. He needs to have a single doing well, which can happen if he released a single his fans woukld buy (with an extra track or an extended mix etc)... then the radio stations would pay attention.

His press appearances ahve been abysmal. He hasnt put himself into peoples thoughts. he isnt ramming it home that he is around and so people arent anticipating hearing him. The record companies cant solve that problem. they need Prince in the press and other media to compliment what they CAN do.

Anyway, I dont particularly care. I did when 3121 first came out, I wanted to see him get some recognition again from the man on the street. But now I couldnt care less - its business as usual, thats how it always will be.
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Reply #28 posted 04/25/06 4:50pm

Ifsixwuz9

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BSK3601 said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:


I disagree somewhat. If and, this is a big "IF" Prince wasn't responsible for the album being leaked some 2 or 3 weeks before the release date they dropped the ball big time. There are plenty of casual fans who may actually enjoy the album but didn't buy the dang thing because they downloaded it on the internet for free.


We're in an age where NO album released on a major label makes it without being released at least 2 weeks before the date. Prince didn't do that. The only reason Musicology didn't "leak" is because of the giveaways and the fact that it had already been released by the music club.

Now unless there is something Prince can't speak about, (which is very unlikely considering he's had no problems bashing Warner, EMI, and Arista when those deals went sour in his eyes) Universal handled (and is still handling) the promotion for this album very well for a "one-off deal"...

I'm sorry, Universal did what they were supposed to do.



Sorry I don't buy that. A couple of tracks here and there, snippets of songs maybe but not the entire album all over the net like that.

And for the most part (I think Laura made this point) they can't get any of the songs played on the radio. Here in DC, Donnie Simpson plays different tracks from the album, but that's because he actually likes those specific tracks. I have yet to hear any other radio station in this area (urban or pop) play anything off this album.

Doesn't make me any difference either way so whatever.
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Reply #29 posted 04/25/06 5:13pm

Rico

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You're wrong about albums appearing on the Net prior to their release date.

For example, just did a search for Stadium Arcadium, the new album by the Red Hot Chilli Peppers, not out until the 9th May, and it's all over the Internet as an "illegal" download. This sort of thing happens all the time with new albums, particularly with popular artists.
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