said the man is appearing on AI afterall,

possibly next week?

Hey anything to see Prince perform. I could careless.... I just hope he doesn't sit there with Paula Simon and that other jerkoff.

This might be a "Jump the Shark" moment if he sits there and watches no talent kids who stood in line to be famous sing his songs.

wow

whats the point...unless he goes on and lies his ass off all he can say is "drop out now because this record deal business is no good for you"

not that i an going out that far on a limb: but Prince is NOT going to be on AI.

next week is Andrea Boccelli
there are five contestants left

jaynoonan said:

If it's true, good move.

OuzoPower said:

they were referring to week after that

this is the story that won't die. i'll believe it when i see it.

OMG this again! Clever this time because AI was left out of the title. Since there is zero evidence of this I will also believe it when I see it.

I agree with slamglam no way will he do it,he dislikes the show so why humiliate ur self lkie that? no way will my lover do that 2 much class!

purplecam said:

What a coupe for Prince...to be on one of the last shows of the year...
one that everyone will watch...he'll sell tons of CD's from this one
appearance. My guess is that they negotiated this about 3 weeks ago
and that's why he hasn't been promoting the CD recently, he doesn't
need to...he knows he's gonna hit 40 million viewers in a couple of
weeks. By then, his concert plans will be solidified and he'll do
a couple of talkshows to spread the word on his concert.

That Prince has it all figured out...

if he did this

it would all makes sense

Revolution said:

Sounds about right. This way he wouldve had all the promotion of will or wont he be on it. And he only has to deal with the final contestants.

Really confusing...I just read something about two days ago saying, "No, he absolutely won't." Then I read another article that said they extended an invitation but it wasn't clear whether he would do it or not, and then this. Who knows? It might be a good move to promote, well, everything, to make it unclear if he would guest or not...it's possible, but I'll have to see it as well because I've heard so much about it in the past weeks.

I saw Extra too and what was said was "possibly Prince will make an appearance". There was no statement made that it was definite.

He's probably going through a makeover right now and we'll see a new Prince on AI!!

I really hope he doesn't go through with it.

True, it's one of the hottest shows right now. Why, I can't fathom, but it is. He'll get a fresh new audience and a boost in sales, both of the new album and albums past.

BUT

with all he's railed against the current system, it woulbe hypocritical to do the show. Not that Prince is any stranger to contradicting himself or holding a double standard for things, but this would be the Ultimate. Especially considering the whole battle with Warner's and all that went with it, and his "real music by real musicians" creed of 2004.


That said, I won't believe it either way until I hear it officially.

Please Prince,..do the unthinkable...and appear on AI!!!!!

Im not terribly opposed to the idea. Yea, it would be a bit hypocritical given his past rants on the music industry. But...I dont think anything bad can come out of this. If Barry FUCKING Manilow can sell a shitload based on one episode, imagine what it would do for Prince. This would be a great promotional move, and sales of 3121 would go through the fucking roof.

Thats if he does indeed go through with it. Hey, sometimes u gotta go with logic rather than personal beliefs

newskin69 said:

I guess my thing is after the guy changed his name to an unpronouncable symbol due to the Warner Bros. issue, wouldn't doing a show like AI that is set up to feed a revolving door industry that doesn't give two shits about actual talent make the whole thing really kinda stupid?

AI is not selling out...it's selling.
And he is in the music business.

I'm not crazy about the show but I do like that it's one of the few places that people come together...all ages, all races etc...

They do this because it's interactive. You can't TIVO it and get the same experience. [sidenote: If some of you aren't crazy about this...it's only a taste of what's to come with IPTV]

If he does do this, I'm more curious about whether he'll bring them to his space and do it "Prince style" or if the place will be more generic. Hope he does the former.

He can do it and still be true to who he is.

I hope this happens.


So where's the thread about who will sing what?

meow85 said:

He changed his name to to get out of a bad contract. Plain and Simple. Since he is not under that old contract anymore, why can't he forgive the industry and give a little feedback to the next Kelly Clarkson or Fantasia.... I think it would be cool to see him sit there and be honest with someone.....

"When I wrote Vibrator, I never thought a grey haired white man could ever pull it off..... I was right."

thisbediscream said:

I know the basic reason he changed his name was to get out of the contract, but he made such a big deal of the whole thing, and continues to do so. Not that he's any stranger to backtracking or contradicting himself, but with the shit he tried to kick up as a reaction to how things went down with WB, going on a show that promotes style over substance and mediocre performers over genuine talent would be pretty hypocritical. Not to mention that if he himself were just starting out, he'd have been laughed out of the auditions before he got anywhere near being allowed onto the actual show.

If Prince were to be honest with the contestants, I think he'd tell them to go home. He's made it clear that he's not a fan of the way the industry works -which this show caters to, and that he doesn't appreciate himself and others having had to work so damn hard to get where they are while these kids who think they deserve to be stars just get handed a contract after torturing classic songs. I think it'd be awesome for him to go on AI if he were to really be honest.

I also think it'd be awesome if the public came to their senses and realized what a stupid show this is.

meow85 said:

But don't you think that you have to look at this in the context of time?

There are so many "formula acts" out there (with very little talent) that the "idol" people (who can actually sing) could possibly be a refreshing turn back in the right direction.

In comparison to most of what's out there, this is a way of saying that "talent counts"

I'm not a big fan of the show either but there is good that will come of it and I believe that people will start to remember that some degree of talent should be a prerequisite.

anon said:

You're joking, right?

The people who get onto AI all have nice voices, but that's all they are, is nice. Not great or bombastic or spine-chilling or even vaguely interesting. Just nice. They all have the same uninteresting, easily-marketable look of middle-American suburban mall couture once the stylists are done with them. And from the shows I have seen, none have any sort of stage presence to speak of. A good performer commands your attention, and all any of these kids do is sing loudly and over-emote. That's not interesting or particularly good, that's Celine Dion. We already have one of those, thanks. I haven't seen, or more importantly, heard anything new or refreshing from the products of AI -only more of the same crap we already have.

American Idol is really just a sympton of the larger problem of all corners of the industry placing more importance on a slick, made-for-Top-40 radio package over any actual music. People bitched and moaned about boybands being manufactured -many of the groups were in fact, not -yet millions of the same people tune into a show that lays out the audition process for all to see. Irony so thick you could eat it.
What talent? How hard is it to let someone pick out your outfit and do your hair for you, then go out onstage and slaughter someone else's music? Why not pick up an instrument or a pen and paper, work your own style, and do something crazy like actually work for that record deal?

Unlikely. From what I've seen of the fanbase -and I have lurked on the AI message board and had conversations with people who watch it -they've got no fucking clue about music.

maybe prince has changed his opinion, i mean, once he always swore that the intrustry is a waste of time and that young artists are being taken as mugs etc etc, he wrote that huge essay on the rave dvd about it, but now hes dancing around with the twinz, winniners of australian idol or something like that. i think his opinions of the industry have changed now, he's moved on and got over his heart ache with warner

meow85 said:

No. I'm not joking. Nor do I disagree with most of what you've said.

It's true most have no clue about music...look at who they're listening to now...they are those are less talented than the AI bunch. I'm aware that this is not saying much.

You seem to think that those on AI will replace the ones with "real" talent/the bands. They won't. They will replace those with less. The talented few that get thru will continue to do this.

And about having the hair done and clothes picked out...they all do.

What I'm saying is that this market will exist and it will exist outside of those with the "real" talent...not in place of it. So let it. I think that AI will do more good for it than not.

A show that demystifies the "pop star" will only last so long. It will run its gamut and it will end.

If anything it's the publics way of saying that they get it...they get the formula...they're having fun with it.

After something like this ends we can only head in the other direction.

thisbediscream said:

that is not true at all. For one he did NOT change his name to . Second changing your name has no effect what so ever on any contracts signed under the prior name.

Hey, I can see where this makes sense. I couldn't picture Prince running around with 8 - 10 karaoke contestants, but I can see him spending some time with the top 4.

I was doing numbers this morning and figured that "3121" looks like it's going to sell 500,000 copies. Prince probably gets no more than $2/copy, so he's looking at a $1 million payday, plus royalties (which, judging by Houston radio play, isn't going to be much). If he wants a really big payday, he needs another large-arena tour.

Shredding it in front of 35 million people on AI might take the tour from medium-sized arenas to the large arenas he sold out two years ago. Now we're talking about a $10 million - $20 million take, instead of $5 million - $10 million.

If Prince figures he can rake another $10 million out of the tour by going on AI, that's a pretty strong motivation to appear on the show. Personally, I hope he does. He can educate a lot of young people on what music really is.