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Reply #30 posted 07/20/02 6:13pm

rio

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i wish he'd stop by sometime...i'm bored...
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Reply #31 posted 07/20/02 7:14pm

Nep2nes

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Prince would have to be a major asshole to use this technique anyways. rolleyes


Oh right..because Prince isn't an asshole, right?

(Just trying 2 keep up with the current trend wink)
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Reply #32 posted 07/20/02 7:59pm

Chica

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eek
And life goes on...
Sometimes I feel like a nut..sometimes I don't wink
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Reply #33 posted 07/20/02 9:20pm

molyb

To tell you the truth, I am very disturbed with this topic. In the first place, I would never dream of supporting bootleggers or any such nonsense, but now I realise I might have been unknowingly helping these people. I will admit I have bid on certain things on ebay listed as "rare", "one of a kind", etc., but only because I haven't found other retailers for the items I was interested in including 1-800-new funk, etc. I have an old computer that isn't compatible with all the new things on NPG's website...the ONLY reason I haven't joined. I would gladly pay my $100.00 bucks for a years service and not complain like the rest of the people who's posts I see here all the time. Older fans like me have to sort out where their money goes according to priority: mortgage, insurance, utilities, food, then what I want or need, like more Prince in my life! I thought nothing of plunking down $800.00 to take me and my love to a one night stay in Cleveland for "One Night Alone" this spring, even though we only live 85 miles away. Got to touch the tour bus as it was leaving! The thought of Prince looking into my personal files is absolutely ludicrous. I'm sure he has much better things to do with his time. The fact that I bid on ebay auctions that were pre-empted due to impingements on the artist's rights do not leave a bitter taste in my mouth, even though I was high bidder in several instances. After ebay informed me that the auctions were ended prematurely, I was contacted outside ebay by people not affiliated with those particular auctions offering the same item(s) for sale, although I did not buy. I wish he'd just go ahead and put up for sale things from the past, esp. old live concert video, the infamous Miles recordings, etc.
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Reply #34 posted 07/20/02 9:23pm

ScarLett

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(insert here) something about a flashlight 4 batteries and an asshole...find it WHA???

that would be an issue but only if u speak LIES,
for most here i would say GAME is something to be mastered - but i understand those of u who really wanna be found... nothing is permanant in this world when one identity is used up, please move on and leave no paper trail...ugh YIKES, play the game don't let the game play U...


up out!!!

hey people LONG tyme No see...blunt
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Reply #35 posted 07/20/02 11:51pm

HIGHRISK

For those of you who may feel a bit fuzzy about what I wrote about being careful with writing SLANDER and LIBEL about someone on the web here's a good example of what you shouldn't do. This was taken from another discussion group I visit and this asshole is a LAWSUIT waiting to happen! He made some very SLANDEROUS comments about OPRAH and BILL CLINTON. Yes his email address is listed with these irresponsible remarks and if Oprah and Clinton find out, they'll be WIPPING THEIR ASS WITH THIS GUY! But the author of this trash thinks that he is ANONOMOUS, and that no one CAN FIND HIM!

So here it goes word for word what he wrote...

[i]saw oprah today supposedly empathizing with one of her guests who'd been raped and witnessed her parents murders..i really had to laugh when the fat black
bitch was on the verge of tears talking about the "sheer terror' that the victim must have felt!!! hey oprah!! where is your empathy for the women bill clintons has raped you fat stupid hypocritical bitch!!! when did you ever try
to empathize with any of them!!! you never had any of these women on your show talking about their experiences!!! when bill clinton pinned juanitta broadrick down on the bed and forced his two millimeter dick in her and bit her lips til they bled,y ou werent trying to emptahize with her!!! no oprah you stupid black sow the world won't be a better place if everyone would simply write in a fucking journal YOU CLUELESS MORON!!! the world will be a much better place
when your fat, ugly, beached whale of an ass is off the airwaves FOREVER!!!

your career will tank along with everyone else in the scumbag media when the truth comes to light and cbs will wish they'd never been associated with yo!!![i]
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Reply #36 posted 07/21/02 12:54am

HIGHRISK

Abrazo said:

well what did you think? that the internet is a truly anarchistic environment with no laws to abide?


$$$No one even implied that and you know it. Besides, this isn't exactly common knowledge that an email address can be used to get information like:

-Where do you live? I can find that information.
-Are you in debt, and if so how deeply? I can find that information.
-Have you ever been in trouble with the law, and what for? I can find that information.
--Are you into kiddie porn? Ican find that information.

People should know about this shit!


Abrazo said:

Laws exist just the same on the internet. Only difference is the way you can get caught.


$$$Presumably, everyone's already HIP to that.


Abrazo said:

Now HIGHRISK...if you would start by first making a lesser big deal out of Prince and this website and make sure the link to the article is correct then we can see where you get your information from and maybe get a discussion going that makes some more sense.


$$$Funny. I didn't feel I was making a big deal out of anything except providing some relavant information. When I originaly made this post I did summit the correct link, but some how the last couple of digits did'nt highlight, So, I'll be nice and post it again. Hope it hightlights right this time!

http://www.techtv.com/sil...38,00.html
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Reply #37 posted 07/21/02 1:03am

HIGHRISK

HIGHRISK said:

Abrazo said:

well what did you think? that the internet is a truly anarchistic environment with no laws to abide?


$$$No one even implied that and you know it. Besides, this isn't exactly common knowledge that an email address can be used to get information like:

-Where do you live? I can find that information.
-Are you in debt, and if so how deeply? I can find that information.
-Have you ever been in trouble with the law, and what for? I can find that information.
--Are you into kiddie porn? Ican find that information.

People should know about this shit!


$$$Of course, I MUST STATE, it's great that LAW ENFORCEMENT are using this method and others to track down PREDATORS who prey on the innocents of children through KIDDIE PORN! There are things in society that just shouldn't be TOLERATED AT ANY COST AND THIS IS ONE OF 'EM! How do you think so many people are being caught red-handed in this stuff? So can, on a POSITIVE note, serve some good to the saftey of society.
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Reply #38 posted 07/21/02 2:11am

LeGrind

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I'm sorry,but I don't like somebody Bootlegging artists or scalpers. They are Leeches like Pepe Willie living off of Prince's Music or Celebrity. High-risk I hope you don't condone this behavior! I also am shocked someone threatened Prince's life on a Cat-room or anything and was a fan??? But yeah, there are some Real Sicko's out there and stalkers. So yeah, I do believe anything. How utterly horrible ! All the Crime and Violence. So Sad, So Sad.. Leave Prince alone You Bastards ... you killed Lennon, you Psychos kill anybody that has a voice and you call this America??? Living Colour Cult Of Personality! When a leader speaks the Leader dies. So true! Martin Luther King ! A man of Peace. Racists ! White Supremacy! Nut-Jobs! I feel so Sad and these Pedophiles . Such a sick world sometimes.
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Reply #39 posted 07/21/02 3:05am

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I think Prince has a fan database anyhow. Back when he had that thedawn.com site, he got fans to submit a questionaire that asked all sorts of questions.

I suppose because he is an artist & celeb, as well as a businessman who owns a company, he would have the law and police co - operation on his side, and rightly so.

However, If Prince was going to use techniques to track fans down, they should be valid reasons, such as a threat to his personal security, a stalker or something illegal, such as bootlegging.

This is the internet. It gives people personal freedom to have a voice, something which Prince sung in his lyrics may times (b glad that u r free), so weather someone says something positive or negative shouldn't be a reason to track that person down for slander. The lawsuits would run into the millions, it would be a complete waste of everyones time and energy.

Negative comments can work to Prince's advantage, it at least lets him know how fams feel about issues. Everyone is entitled to a view, and they should have a right to exercise it.

This kinda sounds like "Jay & Silent Bob strike back" movie where J & SB goes to everyone's house that bitch about them on the internet and kicks their asses!
Imagine P & Larry doing that!
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Reply #40 posted 07/21/02 6:55am

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HIGHRISK i admire your spirit and all but you should check your facts before you go trying to scare people into silence.

obviously prince can find us. obviously he can track us down. that's not the issue. the issue is whether or not he has a cause of action regarding what may be published here on prince.ORG.

death threats, yes he has a cause of action. gossip, and speculation among the 'fams', no cause of action.

first, by definition the tort of 'slander' doesn't exist in this forum because the term 'slander' applies only to oral, or spoken, transmissions. this forum is purely written, and so by definition any defamatory remarks posted here by members of prince.ORG would be considered libelous.

second, because prince is a public figure, as are those who associate with him in certain instances, the standards regarding slander and libel do not apply to him and his cronies the same way they apply to average jane or joe on the street.

a public figure like prince must not only prove the libelous statement was made, but also that the statement was false, that the one who made the statement knew it was false and made said statement with a reckless disregard for the truth, meaning, maliciously. even so, it's much more difficult for a public figure to succeed on this basis.

unfortunately for prince, he cannot sue folks for expressing their opinions or for speculating on his personal life here on prince.ORG. those of us who post here and comment on prince's personal life enjoy what's known as a 'qualified privilege' to do so because prince, as a public figure, has willingly and knowingly exposed his life to the public eye.

just so you know

edited to add: the above is not to be taken as legal advice. source material 'the compact guide to tort law' - jefferson hane weaver; 'torts and personal injury law' - william r. buckley
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Reply #41 posted 07/21/02 7:17am

Arcamar

I DON'T CARE!... I realy don't CARE!
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Reply #42 posted 07/21/02 7:27am

Arcamar

Arcamar said:

I DON'T CARE!... I realy don't CARE!


He can but he wont! - smile
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Reply #43 posted 07/21/02 7:39am

wellbeyond

I actually had the FBI come visit my roommate in college my freshman year to investigate his "bootlegging" activities...lol...that was freaky...apparently they only wanted information, not to haul his ass in or anything...my roommate didn't know just how "big" the people he worked for were, I guess...lol
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Reply #44 posted 07/21/02 8:07am

Antony7

Have you all been smoking something? Lets not get to paranoid people ...
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Reply #45 posted 07/21/02 8:59am

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HIGHRISK said:


-Where do you live? I can find that information.
-Are you in debt, and if so how deeply? I can find that information.
-Have you ever been in trouble with the law, and what for? I can find that information.
--Are you into kiddie porn? Ican find that information.

People should know about this shit!

It's common that the authorities find that info ALL the time through online activities. All they need to do is find your name and social security number to find anything else they want. How do you think they sometimes find adults who lure under age kids into illegal activities? Now the question is: WHAT DID YOU DO that's making you so nervous?
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #46 posted 07/21/02 9:30am

AzureStar

Apparently it's amazingly easy to find out information from an e-mail address. I didn't sign up for my e-mail address using my real name or home address, but yet I always get spam mail with my real name, including my middle name, in the subject line, or with them using my home address. This has happened countelss times, with sites I've never visited, and the e-mail address it gets sent to is one that I only use to e-mail friends. Meaning, I don't shop with it. It is scary.
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Reply #47 posted 07/21/02 10:18am

pm1

i hope he hunts that vagina down!!!
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Reply #48 posted 07/21/02 10:30am

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HIGHRISK said:[quote]WARNING: BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU COME ONTO THIS SITE, AND ANY OTHER DICUSSION GROUP SAYING ABOUT PRINCE! HE CAN FIND YOU! YOUR NOT AS ANONYMOUS AS YOU THINK!

SO ?
free ur mind
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Reply #49 posted 07/21/02 10:40am

wellbeyond

Prince should actually be more afraid of us finding him than the other way around...
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Reply #50 posted 07/21/02 11:42am

bankrobberman

Well Prince if you are tracking me now, let me just say that i think you are great and that i would never do anything that would disgrace you good name or take money out of your pocket.

(Hopefully if i kiss butt he wont track me down)
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Reply #51 posted 07/21/02 4:06pm

twonabomber

i'm still tryin' to figure out how Oprah would convince a jury that A) she is not fat and B) that she is not black...

"slander-A false and malicious statement or report about someone" ain't nothin' untrue there...biggrin
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Reply #52 posted 07/21/02 4:34pm

Abrazo

Highrisk,

I am sorry but the "article' you linked is not something I would call a reliable source of information. Don't take my words as legal advice either, but please see that this website does not provide you with clear and correct facts. In fact I see this "article" more as a disguised form of advertising for all those privacy "protection" software they want to sell you.
It is also a bit outdated in internet terms, published already two years ago.

I will quote some of the claims they are making and debate them for you.

The Net is a great place to register criticism-- of books, movies, employers, individuals-- and many people criticize anonymously. Being anonymous on the Web, however, is about to change, as the law has sided with those being criticized.

The first assumption fallacy these people make is that you would be somehow truly anonymous on the net; you are not completely anonymous and never have been.
Secondly, criticising is allowed within the scope of freedom of speech. Pure slander and libel is not and never has been, thus the law has not changed in anyway. In fact it has remained consistent. This article makes it seem as if "criticising" someone is illegal. That is very bad journalism. Worse, that is not journalism but badly produced and incorrect information designed to make you buy their products.

Should online anonymity be protected? Where does the First Amendment come into action?


The fundamental right to privacy is what they should be concentrating on, instead they continue producing propaganda about freedom of speech, when it is clear that slander and libel are not part of your "freedom" of speech. These people may have missed some important connections.
Don't take my word on it, but if you really think these companies actually can and really want to protect your privacy in exchange for dollars you are wrong.
You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security.
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Reply #53 posted 07/22/02 3:38am

Arcamar

This topic makesme become extreem nerveus.Please close it.

He can't find me!
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Reply #54 posted 07/22/02 5:06am

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nownAsFAM

he wants 2 no where u r arcamar, and vagina, so he can stay 1000square miles away from u 2 n all directions!

y'all ain't 2 far gone 2 c that!

smile
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Reply #55 posted 07/22/02 7:23am

Arcamar

UserCurrentlyKnownAsFAM said:

he wants 2 no where u r arcamar, and vagina, so he can stay 1000square miles away from u 2 n all directions!

y'all ain't 2 far gone 2 c that!

smile


This is just that I meant, dear friend smile You did just use the easier way to say it. bat Thank you! Me I would probably do the same! eye love fro
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Reply #56 posted 07/22/02 7:27am

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HIGHRISK said:

For those of you who may feel a bit fuzzy about what I wrote about being careful with writing SLANDER and LIBEL about someone on the web here's a good example of what you shouldn't do. This was taken from another discussion group I visit and this asshole is a LAWSUIT waiting to happen! He made some very SLANDEROUS comments about OPRAH and BILL CLINTON. Yes his email address is listed with these irresponsible remarks and if Oprah and Clinton find out, they'll be WIPPING THEIR ASS WITH THIS GUY! But the author of this trash thinks that he is ANONOMOUS, and that no one CAN FIND HIM!

So here it goes word for word what he wrote...

[i]saw oprah today supposedly empathizing with one of her guests who'd been raped and witnessed her parents murders..i really had to laugh when the fat black
bitch was on the verge of tears talking about the "sheer terror' that the victim must have felt!!! hey oprah!! where is your empathy for the women bill clintons has raped you fat stupid hypocritical bitch!!! when did you ever try
to empathize with any of them!!! you never had any of these women on your show talking about their experiences!!! when bill clinton pinned juanitta broadrick down on the bed and forced his two millimeter dick in her and bit her lips til they bled,y ou werent trying to emptahize with her!!! no oprah you stupid black sow the world won't be a better place if everyone would simply write in a fucking journal YOU CLUELESS MORON!!! the world will be a much better place
when your fat, ugly, beached whale of an ass is off the airwaves FOREVER!!!

your career will tank along with everyone else in the scumbag media when the truth comes to light and cbs will wish they'd never been associated with yo!!![i]


Dude get real. Neither Clinton nor Oprah give a rats ass about what a nobody says in dome discussion group. It might be different if a public figure did something like this on national TV, but even then I doubt it. Do you have any idea how much of their time any celebrity that is talked to this way on the internet has to spend to take actions against the person(s) doing it? They would be busy 24/7. And for what, for nothing.
Now go to bed, close your eyes and have sweet dreams. Nothing to worry about. Wait... Who's that knocking on your door?
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Reply #57 posted 07/22/02 7:42am

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Leighsa said:

Scary but true. In a chat room a long time ago someone said that they were going to kill a certain purple shorty. The chat got logged...and sent to someone affiliated with paisley park. I didn't expect anything to come of it, and really SHOULDN'T have logged the chat in the first place...but it was a long time ago.

Anyhow, I was at work 4 days after having emailed the chat-log to an AFFILIATE of paisley...and my cell phone rang. It was the police from another state asking me information about the person who threatened the short paisley one's life.

Now, this was my CELL PHONE. I had NOT given my Internet Service Provider the number to my cell phone and even less to paisley park, but there were the police on my cell phone asking me about this idiot who threatened prince.

When I asked the officer on the phone where he'd gotten my cell phone number his reply sent the weirdest chills down my spine. The answer was "the head of security at paisley park."

Now, I REALLY don't have an overblown sense of importance, and quite frankly should NOT have done it in the first place, even if the guy making the threats was a douchebag that almost everyone who has posted on AMP has had to deal with in a negative way...but it was done...I felt like there is now an FBI file on me and some weird file on me in the security offices at paisley park...so am I paranoid or can PRINCE FIND YOU?

-Leighsa
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Bloody buggery.

So your saying Prince may have my phone number???

biggrin Well doesnt everybody??!!!

Hey Skipper!! Give us a call next time U wanna shoot some hoops at the park wit my homies. If Ur ass is lucky I may even let U win. wink

Later buddy!
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Reply #58 posted 07/22/02 9:42pm

HIGHRISK

Supernova said:

HIGHRISK said:


-Where do you live? I can find that information.
-Are you in debt, and if so how deeply? I can find that information.
-Have you ever been in trouble with the law, and what for? I can find that information.
--Are you into kiddie porn? Ican find that information.

People should know about this shit!

It's common that the authorities find that info ALL the time through online activities. All they need to do is find your name and social security number to find anything else they want. How do you think they sometimes find adults who lure under age kids into illegal activities? Now the question is: WHAT DID YOU DO that's making you so nervous?



July 22, 2002

Mr. Supernova
Prince.org
1999 Purple Rain Ave.
Controversy, CA 91001

RE: Who HIGHRISK REALLY IS, AND WHAT HE'S DONE!


Dear Mr. Supernova:

I understand your concerns. But now you have pushed me over the edge to reveal my TRUE IDENTITY to everyone. So stand back pal! You asked for it! My BIGGEST SECRET!

A lot of people may not realise it but I'm really JEFFREY DAHMER! I'm not DEAD like the media CLAIMS! The soul brotha who claimed he was JESUS did not, and I repeat, did not really kill me! I SURVIVED THE ATTACK & BROKE OUT OF PRISON! THAT'S WHEN I DECIDED TO BECOME A PRINCE FAN! Now, I'll think I'll become a HACKER and find EVERYBODY on the org!


Yours Truely,



Mr. Jeffrey Dahmer
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Reply #59 posted 07/22/02 9:55pm

HIGHRISK

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Prince should actually be more afraid of us finding him than the other way around...



$$$ Perhaps. There are more of US than him.
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