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PrintablePurpleRein said: Graycap23 said: I dig but I would really classify R kelly as having "grown" at all. He seems to to have regressed in a lot of ways. isn't he working on some new stuff...out of the closet 34...35...brilliant work  He has a new working title: "Outed.....now come get me". | |
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dumbass said: Universaluv said: R. has had a number of relatively succesful projects since he came out so, imho, his career doesn't really fit the mold of a groomed musician whom a record company was willing to support through a number minor projects until he realized his potential. For You and Prince weren't minor projects, each had rather succesful singles that launched Prince in the same way that R. Kelly's early stuff with Public Announcement. 12 Play launched R Kelly the way 1999 did Prince, so the comparrison is nearly identical. unless, again, you can define For You and Prince as minor projects in a way that does not fit R Kelly's early work. I don't think you can. R. Kelly and P.A. came out of the box with a Platinum selling album that reached the Billboard top 50 and had four top ten R&B singles (two #1's). For You made it all the way to a chart topping #163 and had one top 20 R&B single. Modest success for a new artist, but not nearly as sucessful as Born into the 90's. True, with the Prince album, Prince proved he could move some records, but that sales success started to slip with Dirty Mind. Three albums in and sales going down for P. Not exactly the signs of a music career on the rise. That WB stuck with him is impressive. R. Kelly's 12-play went 6 xplatinum, and his following album sold even more. I'm not nearly as impressed that Jive records stuck it out with him. Not to downplay Prince's early success, it is very impressive considering his age and relative independence in the studio, but his early career and R's are quite different, imho. | |
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Universaluv said: dumbass said: For You and Prince weren't minor projects, each had rather succesful singles that launched Prince in the same way that R. Kelly's early stuff with Public Announcement. 12 Play launched R Kelly the way 1999 did Prince, so the comparrison is nearly identical. unless, again, you can define For You and Prince as minor projects in a way that does not fit R Kelly's early work. I don't think you can. R. Kelly and P.A. came out of the box with a Platinum selling album that reached the Billboard top 50 and had four top ten R&B singles (two #1's). For You made it all the way to a chart topping #163 and had one top 20 R&B single. Modest success for a new artist, but not nearly as sucessful as Born into the 90's. True, with the Prince album, Prince proved he could move some records, but that sales success started to slip with Dirty Mind. Three albums in and sales going down for P. Not exactly the signs of a music career on the rise. That WB stuck with him is impressive. R. Kelly's 12-play went 6 xplatinum, and his following album sold even more. I'm not nearly as impressed that Jive records stuck it out with him. Not to downplay Prince's early success, it is very impressive considering his age and relative independence in the studio, but his early career and R's are quite different, imho. Looks like he can...lol | |
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I don't know if he fits the mold described in the original post, but what about Beck?...I know his commercial success hasn't been much (at least as far as the singles chart), but he's grown a sizeable following, his albums do decently, and he's definitely grown artisically since "Loser" first hit the airwaves.
Would the White Stripes fit this description as well??...Or rather, are they on their way to fitting the description? Not to mention, is the measurement of commercial success different now than it was 20 years ago, what with iTunes and iPods and downloadable singles and filesharing, radio format monopolization by Clear Channel, etc, etc...?? Is radio airplay still the best barometer? | |
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Byron said: I don't know if he fits the mold described in the original post, but what about Beck?...I know his commercial success hasn't been much (at least as far as the singles chart), but he's grown a sizeable following, his albums do decently, and he's definitely grown artisically since "Loser" first hit the airwaves.
Would the White Stripes fit this description as well??...Or rather, are they on their way to fitting the description? Not to mention, is the measurement of commercial success different now than it was 20 years ago, what with iTunes and iPods and downloadable singles and filesharing, radio format monopolization by Clear Channel, etc, etc...?? Is radio airplay still the best barometer? Good questions.....I wish I had some answers. I don't even listen to the radio or watch any video channels so what do I know? | |
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Byron said: I don't know if he fits the mold described in the original post, but what about Beck?...I know his commercial success hasn't been much (at least as far as the singles chart), but he's grown a sizeable following, his albums do decently, and he's definitely grown artisically since "Loser" first hit the airwaves.
Would the White Stripes fit this description as well??...Or rather, are they on their way to fitting the description? Not to mention, is the measurement of commercial success different now than it was 20 years ago, what with iTunes and iPods and downloadable singles and filesharing, radio format monopolization by Clear Channel, etc, etc...?? Is radio airplay still the best barometer? Beck is definitely a candidate. Considering his lack of singles success I'm amazed (and pleased) that Beck still has a record deal. | |
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Van Hunt could be the next Prince if he can find a way to crossover.
D'Angelo started off really well but don't know where he's at now. Maxwell is also someone who has Prince's potential. | |
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blumer said: Van Hunt could be the next Prince if he can find a way to crossover.
D'Angelo started off really well but don't know where he's at now. Maxwell is also someone who has Prince's potential. the only correct thing u said is: D'Angelo started off really well but don't know where he's at now. those other two cant even be mentioned in the same universe with prince !!!  | |
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