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Nude tour video question 4 years i've had the 1 hour long video which says "copyright Paisley Park enterprise".
I just got a 90 minute video of the same concert saying "copyright TV Asahi". But i remember an old Uptown issue in which Per Nielsen included the 90 show in "official" releases cuz it said it had been released 4 TV broadcasts by Paisley Park. So my question is... is there an "official" (in Per Nielsen's terms) version of the 90mn show or is the only "official" one the 60mn version? OWNERS OF THE VAULT BOOK: what does the book say? Thanx for ur help... . [Edited 4/15/06 15:15pm] [Edited 4/15/06 15:25pm] | |
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The show has never been officially released for sale anyway. So it doesn't
really matter what it says. The show was made available for broadcast on TV, so it's just as 'official' as the '85 Birthday concert or the Love 4 One Another TV special or The Ryde Dyvine etc. or any of the other stuff made available for broadcast but never released to retail. The Nude tour concert was the same, and programmers could show however much of it they liked, hence the hour long edit, and the fact that it was also broadcast out of sequence originally as well. | |
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BorisFishpaw said: The show has never been officially released for sale anyway. So it doesn't
really matter what it says. The show was made available for broadcast on TV, so it's just as 'official' as the '85 Birthday concert or the Love 4 One Another TV special or The Ryde Dyvine etc. or any of the other stuff made available for broadcast but never released to retail. The Nude tour concert was the same, and programmers could show however much of it they liked, hence the hour long edit, and the fact that it was also broadcast out of sequence originally as well. In this old Uptown ish, Nielsen made a difference between programs that were made by TV channels 4 their own use only (such as The Ryde Divine, Love 4 1 another or TV shows appearences) & which were the concerned channels'property & the programs that were made available by Paisley Park 4 any channel 2 buy & broadcast but were Paisley Park's property (such as The Nude tour concert, the Parade one or the Beautiful Experience). I think he considered the 2nd category shows 2 b "official" releases because there EXIST "official" tapes of them, despite the fact that they can only b purchased by TV channels instead of individual people, & therefore are as rare as are promo-videos tapes/DVD's. On the contrary, the 1st category couldn't b bought by ANYONE (including TV channels) & DON'T EXIST as official promo-tapes. This is all very subtle a must b considered as nothing but hardcore fan polemics (lol) & i'm not sure if Per's definition of "official" is accurate or not, but anyway that's why i was wondering if the 90mn show i recently bought can be considered as "official" or if there's another 90 mn version of it more similar 2 the 60mn version (4 exemple: debut titles & end credits r different in the 60mn 'TV Asahi" version than in the 90mn "Paisley Park" version. The ATV version is called "Live in Japan" when the PP version is called "Live In Tokyo &, as you mentioned, the order of the song is OK in the ATV version & altered in the PP version.) That's why i was wondering what the Vault book says & what people here know about it. I'm sure that, in the end, u know the answer, Boris, since u ALWAYS know 
Thanx 4 ur help. | |
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I think Per is splitting hairs over a minor issue there, as both scenarios
involve source material supplied by Prince or Paisley Park. The only real difference between the two is that one is made available for any station that wants it whereas the other is licenced to just one. Either way there's still a source tape that is used for broadcast. It's just that with the multi-station ones there's a bit more chance one might end up in the hands of a collector (as there's more than one). In the case of the Nude tour show, I think the complete show was given an exclusive licence to a particular station, with the edited version being made available for other stations. It's all just a matter of finance and exclusivity deals, so IMO it doesn't make much sense to make a distinction between them. | |
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BorisFishpaw said: I think Per is splitting hairs over a minor issue there, as both scenarios
involve source material supplied by Prince or Paisley Park. The only real difference between the two is that one is made available for any station that wants it whereas the other is licenced to just one. Either way there's still a source tape that is used for broadcast. It's just that with the multi-station ones there's a bit more chance one might end up in the hands of a collector (as there's more than one). In the case of the Nude tour show, I think the complete show was given an exclusive licence to a particular station, with the edited version being made available for other stations. It's all just a matter of finance and exclusivity deals, so IMO it doesn't make much sense to make a distinction between them. So i guess we must have 3 "canonical" kind of Prince official releases, without considering who holds the copyright: Canon 1: Releases available 2 the general public in whatever form (vinyl, cassette, CD, MP3, WMA, VHS, LD or DVD.) Canon 2: Releases available 4 promotion only of which original vinyl, cassette, CD, MP3, WMA, VHS, LD or DVD r circulating, though most of the time very rare. Canon 3: Releases available 4 broadcast only of which the original source doesn't circulate & therefore available from fanmade recording sources only (TV & radio broadcasts & internet streaming.) With every other source (bootlegs) being "uncannonical" since released or broadcasted with no legal authorization whatsoever. ??? . [Edited 4/16/06 12:36pm] | |
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