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Printablesosgemini said: AMEN!! that and the lazy harmonies are what stop me from declaring 3121 a masterpiece..i was really hoping he was taking time to craft his art but he just doesnt seem to be compelled to be patient when it comes to lyrics anymore...
I dont see Britney coming out with The Word, The Dance, or Fury anytime soon.they are as simple as a Britney Spears album... and that makes me sad...  Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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sosgemini said: AMEN!! that and the lazy harmonies are what stop me from declaring 3121 a masterpiece..i was really hoping he was taking time to craft his art but he just doesnt seem to be compelled to be patient when it comes to lyrics anymore...
they are as simple as a Britney Spears album... and that makes me sad... Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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kpowers said: PurpleKnight said: This is the first thread I've made in a while. You lose. no, you put down sign of the times b4 and in other threads too, so you lose!!!1 Umm, yeah, that one was quite a while ago.  The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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PurpleKnight said: kpowers said: no, you put down sign of the times b4 and in other threads too, so you lose!!!1 Umm, yeah, that one was quite a while ago. you truly have gone to the darkside my jedi friend |
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kpowers said: PurpleKnight said: Umm, yeah, that one was quite a while ago. you truly have gone to the darkside my jedi friend Amen to that.....  
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babynoz said: PurpleKnight said: I was listening to SOTT last night, and it's amazing how far Prince's lyrical writing fell after this album.
SOTT had his most brilliant, introspective lyrics yet. Socially relevant insight, unbelievably creative gender roleplaying, and his best ever love ballad. Though there are some exceptions, it seems like Prince's lyrics got really trite and lazy since then. Lines like "Ghettos to the left of us, flowers to the right" became lines like "Love is God. God is love. Girls and boys love God above." Clever metaphors with mountains somehow became nonsense about dolphins. Thought provoking lines about purple rain and the apocalypse have turned into lousy metaphors about spiders.
Emancipation, aside from the shitty filler tracks, seemed like a refreshing comeback, lyrically. The Love We Make is powerfully relevant, and Soul Sanctuary (and basically all of Disc II) is ridiculously poetic and romantic. Aside from that, it's been more of the same. Prince's lyrics have just gotten so simplistic and one-dimensional, and it's tainted his work as a whole for quite a while now (that includes 3121). I tell ya, when I read these comments it always reminds me of what happens when married couples or even friends have grown apart. Don't be defensive, because I'm not being facetious here. It's just that sometimes relationships change. Even artist/patron relationships. For whatever reason, the two of you are not on the same page anymore. The other person may have developed interests that you don't share. It happens. In marriage sometimes a spouse may get wrinkles or gain weight. What happened to that sweet young thing you married? Is the honeymoon over? . You could stay for the sake of the children, (SOTT, Lovesexy, etc.), but the thing is, they already grew up and moved away. You could wait it out in hopes that your partner will hear your pleas and things will shift back to your idea of what a quality relationship should be. You can file for separation/divorce. Not saying you should "love it or leave it". only realize what it is. Prince is sharing his thoughts and experiences during the various phases of his life, set to some fantastic music. Consider this... "All of this and more, is for u. With love, sincerity and deepest care, my life with u I share." These are the very first words spoken by P on his very first album. It's never been simply about lyrics and never will be. It's also about sharing where he is in his life at any given time, for better or worse. You may or may not be in sync with what he chooses to express or how it's done. But to define it as "tainted" is to say the same of his life because his art is his life. I have to agree with Skywalker. I haven't seen any drastic downward spiral in the quality of his lyrics. "Green eggs & ham"??? I could list a whole bunch, but you get the idea. For the most part, I'm still digging most of his lyrics, especially on 3121, (except for Lolita)  but that's probably due to where MY head is at. I'm still getting vivid images from his lyrics and having a bunch of fun.
Personally, I hope you two can work it out dude. Your partner is different, but still wonderful. That second honeymoon could be just around the corner for you.  Ha ha. Love it. Imagine telling your lover: You know, your words really meant something to me back in 1987, but nowadays, not so much. It's pretty much gone downhill from there. You used to be so charming, so mysterious, so FUN. What happened? Boy, I remember back in the day you just opened your mouth and I was tingly all over. Couldn't keep my eyes off you. I was wild, WILD for you! But now, you've gotten lazy with your words. You don't even dance for me no more. What happened to your clever metaphors? What happened to your playfulness? Sigh. Most times I just think back to the way you used to be. I play back memories of the things you used to say, the way you made me feel, especially the '81-'84 era. That was good stuff. You were in the zone then, baby. I guess all good things never last. Hey, you said that one time. You wuz RIGHT! Cuz now it's just rehashed old shit. But you're still quite compelling live... | |
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padawan said: babynoz said: I tell ya, when I read these comments it always reminds me of what happens when married couples or even friends have grown apart. Don't be defensive, because I'm not being facetious here. It's just that sometimes relationships change. Even artist/patron relationships. For whatever reason, the two of you are not on the same page anymore. The other person may have developed interests that you don't share. It happens. In marriage sometimes a spouse may get wrinkles or gain weight. What happened to that sweet young thing you married? Is the honeymoon over? . You could stay for the sake of the children, (SOTT, Lovesexy, etc.), but the thing is, they already grew up and moved away. You could wait it out in hopes that your partner will hear your pleas and things will shift back to your idea of what a quality relationship should be. You can file for separation/divorce. Not saying you should "love it or leave it". only realize what it is. Prince is sharing his thoughts and experiences during the various phases of his life, set to some fantastic music. Consider this... "All of this and more, is for u. With love, sincerity and deepest care, my life with u I share." These are the very first words spoken by P on his very first album. It's never been simply about lyrics and never will be. It's also about sharing where he is in his life at any given time, for better or worse. You may or may not be in sync with what he chooses to express or how it's done. But to define it as "tainted" is to say the same of his life because his art is his life. I have to agree with Skywalker. I haven't seen any drastic downward spiral in the quality of his lyrics. "Green eggs & ham"??? I could list a whole bunch, but you get the idea. For the most part, I'm still digging most of his lyrics, especially on 3121, (except for Lolita) but that's probably due to where MY head is at. I'm still getting vivid images from his lyrics and having a bunch of fun.
Personally, I hope you two can work it out dude. Your partner is different, but still wonderful. That second honeymoon could be just around the corner for you. Ha ha. Love it. Imagine telling your lover: You know, your words really meant something to me back in 1987, but nowadays, not so much. It's pretty much gone downhill from there. You used to be so charming, so mysterious, so FUN. What happened? Boy, I remember back in the day you just opened your mouth and I was tingly all over. Couldn't keep my eyes off you. I was wild, WILD for you! But now, you've gotten lazy with your words. You don't even dance for me no more. What happened to your clever metaphors? What happened to your playfulness? Sigh. Most times I just think back to the way you used to be. I play back memories of the things you used to say, the way you made me feel, especially the '81-'84 era. That was good stuff. You were in the zone then, baby. I guess all good things never last. Hey, you said that one time. You wuz RIGHT! Cuz now it's just rehashed old shit. But you're still quite compelling live... For those of you that ain't feelin' it no 'mo, here's some BB King... The thrill is gone The thrill is gone awaaay The thrill is gone The thrill is gone awaaay You know you done me wrong, baby And you'll be sorrry someday The thrill is gone The thrill is gone away from meee Although I'll still live on But sooo lonely I'll be The thril is gone It's gone awaaaay for good The thrill is gone baaaby It's gone away for good Someday, I know I'll be open armed baaaby Just like I know a good man should You know I'm free, Freee now baaaby I'm free from your spell And now that it's over All I can do is wish you welllll...  Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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well the sign outside my room keeps buzzing along makes a rhythm for the rain that falls all night long and, the rain that keep beating at my door makes a rhythm for them god damn mice that keep dancing on my floor chorus: they go tippity tappity, tippity tappity, tippity tappity, tippity tappity tippity tappity all night long..... tippity tappity, tippity tappity, tippity tappity, tippity tappity tippity tappity all night long All night long... All night Lonngggg VERSE:2 Well the whiskey in front of my face keeps pouring along makes me drunk in hell all night long and the laughter from the devil echoes on down the hall makes a rhythm for the dancing demons do the jitter-bug on my wall VERSE:3 and the landlord dead on my floor keeps screaming along makes a rhythm for the mice and demons to play along and the mice and demons clap along make a rhythm for the piggies shuffle their hooves on down the hall | |
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mozfonky said: GoZero said: How can it be about Wendy when she was playing it on stage with him at the Brits. The song is much more likely to be about Madonna; that's why he played it in her new homeland first. How could it be about Madonna??They were never that involved with each other and even if they were, her star power matched his. Fury is about women scorned, this could be Wendy,Lisa, his ex-engineer, or any of his various female bandmates who've copped out and told on him at one time or another. I thought Wendy and Lisa were likely and that the song could be from that era, who knows other than Prince though. The lyrics are great and descriptive at describing relationships that leave two parties at odds and both claiming righteous indignation when there is "no judge or jury". Great lyrics, we've all been through failed relations that leave us bitter. Please explain your Madonna theory. This song is NOT about any of the above. It is clearly about Manuella. "Queen got no King"....."Word on the street, he's still your man" There is no way those lyrics are about a working relationship. The song is very personal. I think the lyrics to Fury are some of his best, as they seem to be very honest about how he feels in the break up of his marriage. When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. | |
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sosgemini said: AMEN!! that and the lazy harmonies are what stop me from declaring 3121 a masterpiece..i was really hoping he was taking time to craft his art but he just doesnt seem to be compelled to be patient when it comes to lyrics anymore...
somewhat of an exaggerationthey are as simple as a Britney Spears album... and that makes me sad... Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
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calldapplwondery83 said: Well, I do. Didn't want come off as harsh. It just seems to me that you want to show that Prince is one walking contradiction and not very sane, when lyrics with different moods/directons are perfectly normal, I think. Holding back on something would be wrong.
And you know, he never had to try to seem like he's sex obsessed. He is/was. Well it seems like you've answered your own question. I can't tell you why Prince did this, this or this but I'm just thinking about how he puts stuff together and what I THINK about his music. When I read his lyrics and listen to his songs etc THAT'S what I think. No, I don't think he's insane. I just think he's a regular human being who has as many relationship worries and difficulties as the next man. Every human being has contradictions. I personally find all he's twists and turns intriging. I think Prince says more through his music that most people do in an entire lifetime. It's his honesty that I find captivating. Shut up already, damn. | |
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He ran out of ideas, is all. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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Zelaira said: Prince's lyrics aren't SLOPPY! He's the BEST! This is an ANTOGONASTIC THREAD 4 FOOLS!
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golfcent said: padawan said: Lyrically, you don't get much better than "When Doves Cry," which was Prince at his finest. Tortured, sexy, and colorful. It's got father issues, an Oedipus complex and a bunch of animal metaphors. Amazing.
In the 80s Prince milked his mystery and ambiguousness. His chief strength was in being unsettling, rather than making a point or delivering a message. It was Lovesexy that really brought out the "messenger" Prince and that's when his music and lyrics became less interesting. In the 90s there are no Prince songs with the flagrant audacity of a "Lady Cab Driver" or a "Sister." Or the confession of "Strange Relationship." Or the naked bitterness of "Darling Nikki." He lost his ability to shock and unnerve--he even says so: "How can I put this in a way so as not to offend or unnerve." "Pussy Control" is Politically Correct. "Papa" is your typical anti-child abuse message. "Gett Off" is careful not to offend. "7" is religious mumbo jumbo masking his agenda against his own label. It's as if his shock tactics were just marketing strategies, fueled by the ambition to achieve fame, not art. Once he became a superstar, the daring ceased. Which cheapens the shock value of his earlier works, as mere ploys to get noticed. See you have it all twisted. The shock value that you speak of was a shock to your small world and the unopened minds of that time period.Living on the north side of Chicago I know an abundance of people who lived and still live the free lifestyle that "P" represented. To him he was just doing what came natural. "Gett off" was pure sex, "Pussy control" was sassy and had a wicked left hook, and "7" is a classic, poetically and rythmically. Artists, just like the rest of us, grow and mature. Would I like to see a glimpse of the wild child that I grew up idolizing,YES, But the fact that this shock value continued for a span of over two decades kinds of negates your "for the fame" comment. Actually the entire last paragragh you wrote was, how do you put it, mumbo jumbo and I'm not going to continue because you must not be a "P" fan and you bumped into this website and decided to post nonsense. We are the New Power Generation We wanna change the world but the only thing that's in our way is you!! I see the OP was lost on you. | |
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skywalker said: Honestly, I don't find Prince's lyrics in his early albums to be superior to what he is doing now, nor that much different. For every lyrical gem of the 80's I could give you one from more recent times. To me, Prince continues to paint pictures with his lyrics. Truth be told, Prince had his share of lyrical clunkers even in the "good ol' days".
[Edited 4/15/06 22:20pm] This thread is 4 pages long and the truth was spoken right there
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Should only be accessed in the privacy of your mind Words are intense so my dear if you dare to listen Take off your clothes And Meet me between the lines Are you ready for the touch that makes you go insane Breast to lips to cheek to mane I'll pull your hair, you'll feel no pain Are you ready for the only forever we'll both obtain The only joy in this forsaken game You'll feel ashamed and ordained When I lay my hands on you The touch you're about to feel is the one you've been wishin' for It's been here like an echo inside your space and time It's about to get freaky cause the places that I'll be kissin' Are the places that no other man could ever find Are you ready for The touch that makes you go insane Breast to lips to cheek to mane I'll pull your hair, you'll feel no pain Are you ready for the only forever we'll both obtain The only joy in this forsaken game (God forbid) You'll feel ashamed and ordained (God forbid) When I lay my hands on you Nobody knows Like God knows Where the deepest part of your river flows Snap Snap Undo these nylon hose Around your thigh my finger goes slowly Like a cat tip-toes Until I reach the cat's nose I will touch thee in the softest manner Like Europa in the hands of Santana Are you ready for the touch that makes you go insane Breast to lips to cheek to mane I'll pull your hair, you'll feel no pain Are you ready for the only forever we'll both obtain The only joy in this forsaken game You'll feel ashamed and ordained When I lay my hands on you When I lay my hands on you God, I love that song!  | |
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Alexandernvrmind said: yes it is true...they are even corny. If Prince makes another song talking about a boy or a girl I'm gonna go looking for him. Diamonds & Pearls TMBGITW New Power Generation Gold I could go on [Edited 4/16/06 8:20am] Luminous beings are we...not this crude matter.
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