calldapplwondery83 said:

Thanks.

madhouseman said:

sorry mate it's still just ure word....wheres the concrete evidence....and not ure opinion or version of events?

band mates said what? versions of these songs on tape??? what are u talking about did Prince say on this alleged tape to the band right we're gonna record this and kick mtvs ass and mime to these tapes? When has Prince ever had the need 2 do a mimed performance like this, we've seen the evidence of his miming 1994 world music awards anyone?...how could that magnificent band convey that level of energy and conviction whilst miming in front of the worlds biggest stars and not come off feeling phoney...ive seen Prince bands miming b4 and it wasnt like that.

Princes greatest band on the world stage...miming....nah don't thinks so.

And like I say ur opinion of events isnt enough to prove the point...provide the evidence.

YodaH

DAYS OF WILD book, p.44:

11 September 1987

Prince a short but thrilling 10-minute set of "Sign O' The Times" and "Play In The Sunshine" at the MTV Music Video Awards, broadcast live from the Universal Amphitheater in Los Angeles. Few viewers realised that the band lip-synched to a pre-recorded live recording; only Prince's vocals and guitar were live.




I don't think we can give any further evidence.

Rebeljuice said:

OMFG! I can't believe U went there!

Lovesexy '88 Dortmund I was there and it's still the best concert i've seen. Would have loved to see SOTT and parade tour as well though..

YODAHENDRIX said:

I'll repeat it. A band member WHO WAS ON STAGE FOR THAT PERFORMANCE has verified that it was just Prince's guitar and vocals on stage that night. Because of confidentiality agreements, their name isn't attached to the blurb in the book, but yes, I can confirm that it is not just an opinion, but a fact. I have also heard the tape of just the music that was used for the performance, so again, unless you have any proof on your side, I'd say this matter was pretty much closed.... but I'm sure we'll see another posting that just says you don't agree. That's fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but there are those who would prefer to rely on evidence and quotes from the individuals involved.

Hope that clears it up.

madhouseman said:

Ure right I will post again saying I don't agree and don't think this is concrete at all so the matter isnt pretty much closed but people have their opinions whether right or wrong.

Payt said:

How blessed u truly are!

calldapplwondery83 said:

interesting....but.....


am not convinced

YODAHENDRIX said:

Thats cool. At least you acknowledge that your opinion can be wrong... Refreshing to see someone who clings to their opinion despite being confronted with stacks of evidence that shows otherwise. So, the bottom line is on the one side there are quotes from personal interviews of those who were involved, and an actual tape of the songs without Prince's guitar and vocals, and on the other side there is your opinion based on... your opinion. I think I'll let the other org'ers decide. Either way, it doesn't affect me much.

madhouseman said:

Either way u present this tape 4 me 2 hear personally then ill believe u mate...name the band members...that said all of this....and then maybe u'll have me believe u, since I shuld take ure word for it.
Stacks of evidence my as*


In all of my years of being a true Prince archivist this mystery tape has remained just that.

Glad that it doesn't affect u 2 much then mate so new balls 2 u!

Next topic pls.

madhouseman said:

YODAHENDRIX said:

MartyMcFly said:

?

Motherless Child on Septimo is the greatsest Prince moment.

Maybe one of the greatest moments in rock period.

roanmairin said:

lol it is a great moment indeed,not the greatest in my opinion but a grand moment indeed.

I always liked how he looked there...and why did they show that tired collage of past moments when he was burning up that guitar in the intro 2 babyknows???

performing sexy mf at wembley stadium, London in 1992, with his mask on!! classic

Induction into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame .

Wow...I've got some catching up to do.

You can't narrow it down to just a single moment, however brilliant it is.

You guys are insane.

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not quite cuckoo's nest yet mate

Slipstream said:

The guitar solo in that song was 1 of those moments when I knew Prince had me 4 life.That tape was 1 of the 1st ever boots I bought and a soundboard recording 2.It still sends tingles down my spine WOW!!!!!

..... greatest moment in Prince's career?


Think you shold ask P that question.....prob the only one that can answer it. I bet his answer will shock us all.

I remember hearing an interview with P and the question "what is his fav album that he has made?" His answer was For You.

YODAHENDRIX said:

Here is a quote from Michael Bland about a performance they did on Soul Train. This shows that it happened occasionally and WHY it happened. This isn't about the MTV show, but it does explain it a little bit better. It gives historical precident about Prince playing guitar and singing over a pre-recorded tape, with his band miming. Despite the incredible talent in the band, there were reasons for doing it like this. NOW we can put this to rest.

On (http://www.prince.org/msg/5/185602?&pg=6) Michael Bland expains-

"everyone lip-synched on soul train, except for patti labelle, and one other artist... i can't recall..
if you'll notice, in every other instance, prince's vocals are live.. so, if you're referring to the fact that sometimes, the music was pre-recorded, that was mostly a precautionary thing. almost every time we tried to perform totally live on tv, the mix would suck, and the union guy on the job obviously could care less about turning up the electronic loop, or keeping the keyboards present in the mix.. so, it was easier for us to record it at paisley, and hand the union guy a stereo dat mix, and have prince's guitar rig live, and his vocal live.. so, i'm not sure if that qualifies as lip-synching or not.. "

The "Gangta Glam" video. Hands down.

YODAHENDRIX said:

Wow, do we disagree on that one. I really don't like this song.

Slipstream said:

Sure, it's a sublime moment. One of many peaks, I'd say. And his is a long and crowded mountain range.