paligap said:

calldapplwondery83 said:

Yea ok Lead guitar defo,maybe rhythm as well, but rhythm wise thats a whole other debate. I personally think his lead playing was still scorching around the period u are talking about 93-96 cuz what I saw him do at wembley stadium when he premiered Peach and Endorphin Machine in 93 etc was wild and exciting and all out rock!
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A wonderful guitar solo IMO he takes this really simple motif and plays it out and out wringing emotion from every note. I LOVE it

also The MTV performance of Play In The Sunshine is one of his greatest moments.

Performing a musically complex song at full tilt with his greatest band at 100%
He looked great played great guitar rocked out and killed the show!

Plays chrous is one of his greatest ever!

Only his vocals and guitar are live, though. Don't hate me.

calldapplwondery83 said:

On what....?

Not the MTV awards performance

and the Movies version is overdubbed of course but it isnt mimed.

YODAHENDRIX said:

I agree, but the reason I get so excited for these national TV shows is that everyone can see how great he is without having to dig into bootlegs like Small Club. I was in the record store the day after the R&R Hall of Fame show and I overheard two 50 yr old guys talking about the show, and the guy bought one prince record and one Beatles record. They were saying that they didn't realize Prince could play like that.

To your point- why do you think his guitar playing has changed?

YODAHENDRIX said:

Well, I didn't find this out myself, but the Days of Wild book says so. And yes, I meant the MTV performance.

calldapplwondery83 said:

Maybe you're talking about the opening song, SOTT, which was performed to a drum machine pattern??

Somebody with the "Days of Wild" book handy please post the paragraph! Otherwise I will do so later tomorrow.

DMSR said:

Gosh, that's a good question. My suspicion has been that he began immersing himself in more blues-based influences and abandoning more abstract ones. I mean, there was a sizable shift in tone and phrasing between that former period and the past 10 or so years. It still obviously is Prince playing, but the difference is apparent. On the tone tip, I suspect he lost or broke a key piece in his rack system or pedal board. That tone hasn't been back for a while, and I miss it. Though some of that can be attributed to the guitars he's been favoring, as well.

From the same show, RAVE easily beats it. Great show all around, but there is nothing better than RAVE on that CD.

'nuff said

calldapplwondery83 said:

I don't have the book in front of me, but I can confirm to you that both SOTT and Play in the Sunshine were prerecorded and only Prince and his guitar were totally live. The drums were also louder in the program, but it was recorded so that the sound was perfect.

madhouseman said:

You mean the 2:11 minute jam?

madhouseman said:

Yeah , sounds almost identical to the SOTT movie version

Small Club is awesome - but if only we could hear a good copy of the Le New Morning paris 87 - that version rocks too

calldapplwondery83 said:

Rubbish I don't believe that book dude...who says thats gospel!

that doesnt sound like its mimed 2 me, that humdinger was live baby!

DMSR said:

Well I think he has the same drive and desire and ability but the tone has changed and as u know every coupla years he changes his sound. Now Around the sott/lovesexy time I think he just had youth and a remarkable desire 2 show what he was made of as a pre-requisite, he played with fury and skill.

I like his sound with feedback and that airy ass flanger sound he used round the beginning and the end of the cross in the sott movie, Thats the sound I equate with sott/lovesexy, the purple rain sound is remarkable 2 it is different and very loud. Prince just needs 2 get louder ands a bit dirtier sound wise agin in my opinion but his mastery of the instrument has never changed.

ThreadBare said:

Great point....thats the word abstract he would do really avant garde things on guitar now its a lil bit more bluesy based but every now and again he goes in2 that abstract bag like even the solo in the song 3121, thats what im talkin about but even that could have a lil more distortion on it, but as is is super HOT

madhouseman said:

Rave does kick ass that is the best thing on the small club cd....but Just my in london is my favourite.

But Rave has that abstract Prince fury I love!

Dewrede said:

No it doesnt not at all.

Still don't believe it.

"We Gon Make It Funky" w/ Maceo. Not as flashy as "Just My Imagination" but I think it is one of his most amazing guitar performances.

Just spectacular. Makes me dizzy.

madhouseman said:

Agreed. Rave is the best thing on that show. Rockin' and funky at the same time.

That is a great version Prince does. I also think the version from the Paris aftershow was also fantastic.

DMSR said:

no, it is longer than that. It takes up a few chapters of that CD.

NO MORE, NO MORE, NO MORE.... GOOD GOD!
now how can ANYONE not get goosebumps from that?

Madhouseman said:

I know someone mentioned earlier that it was similar to the SOTT movie, but it is NOT the same as the SOTT movie version. I can tell you, catagorically, that the basic tune WAS recorded in the studio for the MTV show. Prince's vocals and his guitar were added during the show. This information comes from people in the band and there is a version of these songs that exist on tape that confirms this. Unless you have more concrete evidence to support your side, I think this matter may be over.

Either way, it was a great show.

Madhouseman said:

I know someone mentioned earlier that it was similar to the SOTT movie, but it is NOT the same as the SOTT movie version. I can tell you, catagorically, that the basic tune WAS recorded in the studio for the MTV show. Prince's vocals and his guitar were added during the show. This information comes from people in the band and there is a version of these songs that exist on tape that confirms this. Unless you have more concrete evidence to support your side, I think this matter may be over.

Either way, it was a great show.

roanmairin said:

Glad you mentioned this! I think this is really underrated. I love it, it's so different to how he usually plays. I dig the little bass-playing-like slaps he does in it.

calldapplwondery83 said:

I think Maceo always makes him perform to his best. I watch that clip over and over and it never ceases to amaze me.

Does anyone know which concert that preformance was from?

That was at one of the Celebrations at Paisley Park, in either 2000 or 2001 (the latter, I think). One of the best files the club made available, IMO.