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Printablelaurarichardson said: dumbass said: laurarichardson said: dumbass said: gman1966 said: I like the DMB but it is very silly to make comparisons like that. Prince has been in the business for 25 years!!! He is a legend. Let's see where the DMB stands 20 years from now.
so DMB can't be considered better at providing their fans a better value for their money than Prince unless they are around for 25 years? does anyone have a clue that what jthad1129 was saying was that DMB are providing their fans more value for their money. if you don't like DMB than 1 cent would be a rip-off, but so would it be if you didn't like Prince. the fact of the matter is if you do like DMB you don't have to spend as much money on their products, that was the fucking point, not who is the better musician, which at Prince.org the favorite in regards to that would be obvious. --- Dumbass- You strike again with your wacked out responses!!! DMB may be providing their fans with more value because they have a big fat juicy recording contract!!! In case you had not noticed Prince does not. I think he is running his music club according to his income level. In order to bring his prices down he would have to partner up with some corporation. You cannont compare DMB to Prince because they are worlds apart.DMB has young fans who buy t-shirts and posters. Prince fans are usually between 30 and 40 years old if not older. I am not interested in t-shirts. I am interested in music and concerts. I am also a marketing major and Face is correct Prince is targeting his audience and doing the right thing. I would like to see the prices lower for the music club but,I am not sure the club would survive if he lowered the prices and his fan base seems to have the economic means to pay the prices. As far as the price of the CD until recently I have gone to record stores and found some CD's as high as $18.00. Realize that the store discount the CD's for promotions and can return unsold product for credit. Prince is really selling his CD for a few dollars more. Let not all live in some economic fantasy world. Prince is going to try and make as much money off of this club as he can. and once again, laura, your responses always say more of your ignorance and general unintelligence than they do of mine. bravo, for once again displaying how asinine you truly are. I swear, your logic must be regulated by your anus, because your posts always sound like shit. --- I just responsed to your rants about the value of the club. You feel it is not worth the money!!! You feel that DMB club is a better value I just explained the DMB and Prince are in two different places in their carreers and the the price of the two clubs cannot be compared. There is nothing ignorant about my statements. You have still have not mastered the art of reading since our last exchange!!! How sad !!! Please take your Prozac and try reading Wellbeyond's additional comments. either have you, my dear, because if you had read what I wrote I made it very clear earlier in this thread that the NPGMC is well worth the $100 I've spent and would never think to waste $30 on DMB. please reread what I have written and then respond, or are you afraid to look in the mirror that you show to everyone else? | |
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dumbass said: if Prince fans are not interested in such items as t-shirts and posters, and of which you could include the novelty items he sells in his retail section such as mugs and mousepads into the same category, why does Prince sell those items if they are not part of his plan, and why did most of the TRC items sell out quickly when they first went on sale?
obviously, Prince fans do want these things. that is where you are wrong, Laura. don't think just because you don't want them means nobody wants them. --- Well let me state that I do not want a hat or t-shirt. I cannot speak for eveyone else. If you go by the comments on this site most people seem to be into the music. I do not see many post about hats or t-shirts unless it is to riducule the merchandise i.e. skullcap jokes, earcuffs, GetWild perfume | |
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wellbeyond said: What the hell you buyin' Prince perfume for??... :O
 Did you ever smell that stuff?! LOLOLOL. It was advertised as a unisex fragrance (ala CKOne). The fluffy white cap and the squiggly flower on the bottle should have tipped me off, but I succumbed anyhow lol. | |
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Tom said: wellbeyond said: What the hell you buyin' Prince perfume for??... :O
Did you ever smell that stuff?! LOLOLOL. It was advertised as a unisex fragrance (ala CKOne). The fluffy white cap and the squiggly flower on the bottle should have tipped me off, but I succumbed anyhow lol. LOL..holy shit..lol...Prince should send a free exclusive CD to anyone who actually bought a bottle of that stuff...lol...For whatever reason, from the second I heard about "Get Wild" perfume, I just shook my head and laughed..lol... | |
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I was responding to the following comments by Jthad1129. --- Damn people, Do you still not get it. $100 for the club, that gets you these magic 4 or 5 cds that you would have bought anyway from Best Buy for $12.99 (you know, cause all you want is the music, dawg) If Prince would release 4 cds in 2002, in stores at $12.99, that would be $51.96 plus tax Now, you also get to buy tickets in advance to the concerts. Somehow these shows are $100 - $125 (the last 3 Prince shows I went to) Ever went to a concert for $65? I have, it wasn't prince. What about the people who paid $100 for the club and Prince does not come near Birmingham, AL so I don't get the soundcheck, the show, the aftershow. Z-I-P-P-O. Neither does the guy or girl in Sweden who also paid $100 and is just nowgetting a 33 min cd for $100, that he would have bought for $12.99 and still would have been pissed. Is any of this sinking in? --- Dumbass followed with this comment "the fact of the matter is if you do like DMB you don't have to spend as much money on their products, that was the fucking point, not who is the better musician, which at Prince.org the favorite in regards to that would be obvious" From what you wrote I assumed you feel that DMB is a better value. If I was wrong I stand corrected. However, there is nothing ignorant about my explanation concerning the price different. You have a habit of coming to this site and ripping any viewpoint you do not agree with. Prince's club is expensive and it will remain that way to generate the profit that is needed to keep it going. This a fact. | |
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laurarichardson said: dumbass said: if Prince fans are not interested in such items as t-shirts and posters, and of which you could include the novelty items he sells in his retail section such as mugs and mousepads into the same category, why does Prince sell those items if they are not part of his plan, and why did most of the TRC items sell out quickly when they first went on sale?
obviously, Prince fans do want these things. that is where you are wrong, Laura. don't think just because you don't want them means nobody wants them. --- Well let me state that I do not want a hat or t-shirt. I cannot speak for eveyone else. If you go by the comments on this site most people seem to be into the music. I do not see many post about hats or t-shirts unless it is to riducule the merchandise i.e. skullcap jokes, earcuffs, GetWild perfume actually, Laura, I'm not interested in those items either. for myself it is the music as well. as a matter of fact, at the LA show when Prince through his hat into the crowd it came right towards me, but I let the guy who stood next to me in line for damn near three hours before the show catch it. when he gave it to his lady she burst into tears, so it obviously meant more to them than it would to me. I liked them both alot so I was happy for them. I would feel weird having Prince's hat, and if I had handed it to my lady she probably would have just been grossed out. | |
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I was responding to the following comments by Jthad1129. --- Damn people, Do you still not get it. $100 for the club, that gets you these magic 4 or 5 cds that you would have bought anyway from Best Buy for $12.99 (you know, cause all you want is the music, dawg) If Prince would release 4 cds in 2002, in stores at $12.99, that would be $51.96 plus tax Now, you also get to buy tickets in advance to the concerts. Somehow these shows are $100 - $125 (the last 3 Prince shows I went to) Ever went to a concert for $65? I have, it wasn't prince. What about the people who paid $100 for the club and Prince does not come near Birmingham, AL so I don't get the soundcheck, the show, the aftershow. Z-I-P-P-O. Neither does the guy or girl in Sweden who also paid $100 and is just nowgetting a 33 min cd for $100, that he would have bought for $12.99 and still would have been pissed. Is any of this sinking in? --- Dumbass followed with this comment "the fact of the matter is if you do like DMB you don't have to spend as much money on their products, that was the fucking point, not who is the better musician, which at Prince.org the favorite in regards to that would be obvious" From what you wrote I assumed you feel that DMB is a better value. If I was wrong I stand corrected. However, there is nothing ignorant about my explanation concerning the price different. You have a habit of coming to this site and ripping any viewpoint you do not agree with. Prince's club is expensive and it will remain that way to generate the profit that is needed to keep it going. This a fact. | |
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uh-oh, laura, I just told a story to create a common ground between us and you stood corrected about your error. I'm afraid of the possibilities of you and I actually having a friendly interaction. who knows, maybe together we could combat all the worlds problems. I can see it now:
"Laura and dumbass: you got the problem, we have the solution!" naahh, that would never work. . . . . . . . . . . "dumbass and Laura..." yeah that's better. | |
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Tom said: I remember back in '94 Prince was on the cover of Vibe in handcuffs complaining how he has all this great music that can't be released because of the big bad record company.
Well for 8 years now I've been soaking my money into all his little endeavors, from Kamasutra shit to Perfume, to NPG Magazines, Preordering the Crystall Ball, etc etc etc. And have been let down repeatedly with extremely late shipments of the products, things not being what they were advertised (earings, jerseys, etc.), and stuff like Kamasutre and that NYC Live cassette which just downright sucked. I and many others have supported almost all his little endeavors and put up with a load of his shit, with very little of this fantastic music to show for. Instead I have a pile of stinkers like "Chaos & Disorder" and "NewPowerSoul" collecting dust on my shelf. Regardless of it simply being a business and him being in it for the money, I guess Im wondering if Prince has even an ounce of respect for his fans who continually support him. I really don't know what to say to you Tom. First you ask why the music costs so much. I say supply and demand. Then you say you don't like the music and service you've gotten over the past 8 years. Personally, I think the service has gotten much better recently, but that's just my experience, I got what I wanted in a timely manner. It sucks if you haven't. As for the quality of the music, that's too subjective for me to get into. Except for a couple of songs I love Chaos and Disorder (Prince on guitar gets me every time), hate most of TRC. Overall, I like more of the music than I dislike, so I forgive the occasional clunker or two. If the pendulum swings the other way, I'm outta here. But that's just my opinion, which Prince has no control over. Now, if you really haven't been into the music for the past 8 years I gotta ask why are you still buying it? obligatoryeditstatementgoeshere: [This message was edited Tue Jul 16 18:08:45 PDT 2002 by Universaluv] | |
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FamMaw said: This David Matthews is horribly overrated IMHO. His songs don't make sense, his voice sounds like he has a mouthful of mush, and he looks like he could use a bath.
LOL...some people say the exact same things about Prince... | |
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Once again WellBeyond, breaks it down 4 y'all DMB fans and NPGMC haters. It's so F'in simple. if ya don't dig da club, don't join. WB I gotta give ya props, I agree with ya 100%.DAmn, I can't stand the DMB! | |
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Prince is not charging too much for tickets or merchandise. That's how much stuff costs today. If he played larger venues than I think he could charge less but for smaller places if he wants to make the same amount of money he has to charge more. Concerts are expensive today. The Celebration wasn't expensive by todays standards. If you can't afford these things I guess you are out of luck cause those are the prices. This isn't 1969 or 1980. If you can't afford his prices I guess you gotta stay home. Why does he have to drop his prices? If you can't afford the merchandise or think it's too expensive and this is how much things cost at other shows. Just don't buy the stuff. Nothing is Cheap today! Wake Up and Smell the Coffee! | |
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This has been a great thread. I have to agree with the ones who say that the fans are at different levels. I really don't think the DMB fans would pay 100.00. And like WB said (I think, 2 lazy to scroll down) that it's not his only source of income/marketing since he is with a label. I saw DMB when they came to Mpls and I have to say I think the fans would rather take that extra $70 and buy some weed. But all and all I thought the show was pretty decent, I just like live music.
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oneYes said: lest we forget, the name of the club is npg MUSIC club, not npg merchandise club. Most people in2 Prince's music r just that, in2 the music, and have been for many years. it's not about how many tshirts u have and all that stuff that people get into the 1st time they go to a concert and have to buy every poster and piece of stuff available. It's about the music and opportunities to hear it up close and personal, and therefore the npgmc is a totally good deal. if u want "stuff" then go shopping on QVC.
I agree... MUSIC club... Not NPG Gospel according to Prince club! The problem I have with this club is that so far it is tailored to US members. You have had sound checks, concerts (all be it at extortionate prices), a celebration and the CDs... So far I have had one pretty crappy CD that I dont even like... If he doesnt come to Europe, and if the next CDs aint 'all that' then NPG MUSIC club will not be on my shopping list for new music next year. Another thing that needs mentioning, it is true that there are more and more artists setting up a web based approach to marketing, however most of them are still under contract with a major. This limits what they can offer outside of their contract with the major. So long as the record industry is firmly in the hands of a few elite labels, internet based product will never achieve its potential. And whilst thats the case, even the likes of Prince who have no contract with anyone will suffer for it. In order to recoup what you need to spend on a web based business, either the industry as a whole has to move in that direction or the running costs have to be high enough to be able to profit from it. I think DMB is still subsidised by his record label. Prince is subsidised by his cult following. And look what they are turning into! | |
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