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Reply #30 posted 07/17/02 10:43am

Christopher

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'Is it not a shame that Radio will not give songs like Mellow and Last December a legitmate chance.'



you mean top 40?/hip hop r&b stations?? thats not gonna happen his time has past...he appears to have moved onto whatever it is hes doing now.he seems to like it(i dunno what to call all that)
i dont care anyway i have no interest in new prince anymore.
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Reply #31 posted 07/17/02 1:52pm

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garganta said:

dumbass said:

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pm1 said:

i guess it's like why aren't independant movies shown in all multipex cinemas in malls?

the answer is that most the population would rather see scooby-doo/minority report than a deep alternative independant movie making a statement.


actually, that's a bad analogy. TRC doesn't get airplay because Prince isn't buying the airtime for it to be pushed. independant films aren't shown in huge theatres because, for the most part, they are boring pieces of crap that defend their awfullness under the guise that they are deep and have something to say, when in fact they don't. better messages can be found in huge hollywood blockbusters that indy films, but better music isn't neccessarily being pumped put of major record labels.


so you are saying that scooby doo or the sum of all fears have a lot more to say than, say, a film by the Coen Brothers or Woody Allen or... I can think of millions of examples...
I guess you did not choose your username for nothing...such ignorance, god!!


are you saying that Scooby-Doo and the Sum of All Fears are the only studio films ever made, and the Coen Brothers and Woody Allen are the only independent filmakers alive. I think you need to see more movies before you spout off.

besides, last time I checked, both Woody Allen and the Coen Brothers films are financed by major studios, so you obviously know nothing of what you are speaking of. please have a basis for your opinion before you attempt to share.



Even if sometimes financed by major studios, the Coens (maybe not such a good an example), Woody Allen and so many others can still be seen as independent artists. My point was that thanks to a lot of independent fims, cinema as an art has a chance to survive and people can get to see daring, edgy stories that major studios won´t finance because they are very conservative and only care for the almighty dollar.

There was a time when Hollywood´s intention was to make good and entertaining films. Nowadays, entertaiment is all that counts. Quality is not necessary anymore. The simpler the stories the better and the messeges are most of the time superficial and manichean and many times reflect an incredible ignorance towards other cultures and countries. the characters in these fims are hardly human and have little or nothing in common with the people that go to see them. Thanks god for independent films and for the good mainstream fims (Spielberg or Scorsese come to mind) that Hollywood still manages to make from time to time.


that's fine, but pitting your strongest examples, the Coen Brothers and Woody Allen, versus the weekest oppostition possible, Scooby Doo or any Ben Affleck film, does not make yours a good argumement. it actually weakens it because you have structured your argument in your favor while ignoring the actual truth, that being that there are many great studio films of which Scooby Doo is not representative of, but of which you have attempted to do so. I can easily counter you with such examples as The Godfather, Fight Club, Scent of a Women, Gladiator, etc. etc., which are all great big hollywood movies which dispute your point and show you the flaw of your argument.

the point is when you attempt to formulate an argument in this manner, it completely nullifies anything you have to say because you show a complete absence of logic in your arguments position. basically what you said was that since The Big Lebowski is great, and the Coen's are "independant filmmakers," and Scooby Doo is complete shit, and it was a studio movie, than all independent movies are better than studio movies. not so.
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Reply #32 posted 07/17/02 2:04pm

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Christopher said:

'Is it not a shame that Radio will not give songs like Mellow and Last December a legitmate chance.'



you mean top 40?/hip hop r&b stations?? thats not gonna happen his time has past...he appears to have moved onto whatever it is hes doing now.he seems to like it(i dunno what to call all that)
i dont care anyway i have no interest in new prince anymore.



No, I did not mean HipHop or Top40 TRC would not fit in that format. I definitely meant the adult radio. No question about those stations are for teenagers and let's face it, most of us are not spring chickens anymore..
"Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown

"Make my funk the P-FUNK...I want my funk uncut...." Brother George Clinton
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Reply #33 posted 07/17/02 2:05pm

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Christopher said:

'Is it not a shame that Radio will not give songs like Mellow and Last December a legitmate chance.'



you mean top 40?/hip hop r&b stations?? thats not gonna happen his time has past...he appears to have moved onto whatever it is hes doing now.he seems to like it(i dunno what to call all that)
i dont care anyway i have no interest in new prince anymore.


If you have no interest in the new Prince then why in the world are here and posting on Prince.org??? Go figure.
"Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown

"Make my funk the P-FUNK...I want my funk uncut...." Brother George Clinton
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Reply #34 posted 07/17/02 2:57pm

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If you have no interest in the new Prince then why in the world are here and posting on Prince.org??? Go figure.


perhaps because he has interest in old Prince, which is still open for discussion if I am correct. last time I checked, discussion of all periods of Prince's career are still acceptable, not just what he is doing now.
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Reply #35 posted 07/17/02 2:59pm

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If that's true he ain't hit the airwaves where I live that I have heard. Or does anyone know of a station in North Carolina that I might be overlooking some how, that is turning his stuff?

WQMG, Greensboro, NC 6 spin this week, 7 spins total to date.

There ya go... 8)
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Reply #36 posted 07/17/02 3:02pm

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I think its more that Prince doesnt want to bow to the comporate radio boffins. I know I would want to be played because they were payed to, I'd wanna be played because people enjoy my music.

Lewis
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Reply #37 posted 07/17/02 3:03pm

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thecloud9mission said:

I think its more that Prince doesnt want to bow to the comporate radio boffins. I know I would want to be played because they were payed to, I'd wanna be played because people enjoy my music.

Lewis



I think he only doesn't want to bow to them because he's got ZERO chance of getting another hit.

Wasn't Clear Channel one of the sponsors of his tour? I know I read that somewhere...
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